26CornerBlitz Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Kyle Orton Was The Most Pivotal Quarterback In Week 8 According to data from Brian Burke of Advanced Football Analytics, Kyle Orton had three of the NFL's top five most positive plays of the week on the Bills' game-winning drive. Orton's fourth-down completion to Scott Chandler raised the Bills' Win Probability 28 percentage points from 4 percent to 32 percent. Orton's completion to Sammy Watkins four plays later raised Win Probability 27 percentage points from 19 percent to 46 percent. His completion to Chris Hogan two plays after the Watkins completion raised the Bills' Win Probability 59 percentage points from 24 percent to 83 percent. This led to the game-winning touchdown pass to Watkins two plays later. Significant increases in Win Probability happen when a quarterback makes big completions like this near the end of a tight game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Kyle Orton Was The Most Pivotal Quarterback In Week 8 Thanks for the link. He sure has made a difference. We still have the season to look forward to because of the change. Hope it continues this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donald Duck Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 I'm really starting to like this guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orton's Arm Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 As a Bills fan, it's been a very, very long time since I've seen something like that final Bills' drive. Orton was definitely clutch. If only Hackett could call plays like that more often, and if only the offensive line could be reasonably functional (as it was during that drive), we'd have the makings of a real offense! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 As a Bills fan, it's been a very, very long time since I've seen something like that final Bills' drive. Orton was definitely clutch. If only Hackett could call plays like that more often, and if only the offensive line could be reasonably functional (as it was during that drive), we'd have the makings of a real offense! a long time as in last season versus the Panthers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 a long time as in last season versus the Panthers? No cj, no FJ, worse OL, 4th and what conversion? Panthers comeback was good no doubt. This one was much more dramatic and difficult to achieve bc of the mentioned circustances. I dunno, they probably equal. That comeback vs panthers was impressive Having second thoughts. Not sure why you had to make this thread into another EJ debate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 a long time as in last season versus the Panthers? EJFan-4-Ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeoriaAZBillsFan Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 No cj, no FJ, worse OL, 4th and what conversion? Panthers comeback was good no doubt. This one was much more dramatic and difficult to achieve bc of the mentioned circustances. I dunno, they probably equal. That comeback vs panthers was impressive Having second thoughts. Not sure why you had to make this thread into another EJ debate Because eventually every thread that puts Orton in a positive light is going to turn into an EJ debate. It's inevitable as there are still people out there that feel EJ is better than KO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 That entire drive was to insane. With all the negative things that were happening, sacks, false starts, intentional grounding, I would love to see the win probability graph for that final drive. It has to be all over the place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 21, 2014 Author Share Posted October 21, 2014 That entire drive was to insane. With all the negative things that were happening, sacks, false starts, intentional grounding, I would love to see the win probability graph for that final drive. It has to be all over the place. Because of the penalties and sacks, Orton passed for 105 yards on that drive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Because of the penalties and sacks, Orton passed for 105 yards on that drive. Thats nuts. Yup, I'll stick with my original gut answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 21, 2014 Author Share Posted October 21, 2014 @ChrisTrapasso Chad Greenway almost missed the snap on #Bills 4th & 20 conversion. May have helped Chandler get open. https://vine.co/v/ObEaD0puFOU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Thats nuts. Yup, I'll stick with my original gut answer. i don't look at one drive as being more impressive than the other. They were both pretty darn impressive for different reasons. Ej was in his 2nd game as a pro and went down the field on a playoff defense, reportedly with his headset out. Orton had a ton if adversity in his drive and, IMO, the more impressive TD throw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 (edited) a long time as in last season versus the Panthers? Ej wasn't as impressive on that drive. Dink and dunks + a huge penalty. Orton made great throw after throw. Can't compare the 2 IMO. Yes, Ej had less time and no TOs, kudos to Ej. He got the win. No chance he gets the win sunday the way I see it. ORTON >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ej Edited October 22, 2014 by NewEra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 That entire drive was to insane. With all the negative things that were happening, sacks, false starts, intentional grounding, I would love to see the win probability graph for that final drive. It has to be all over the place. When you have to travel 105 yards just to go 80, you aren't doing anything to help yourself. Takes a special QB to meet that adversity and overcome it. Still, I'd prefer to see Orton take a knee to end a game vs. having to throw a last second TD pass. GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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