PeoriaAZBillsFan

You're right, the contract is by no means the reason not to keep him. Personally, I don't care if they keep him or release him. He wasn't the main problem with this team the last two years. Do I wish he was allowed to throw more....yes. Do I wish he wasn't skittish in the pocket...absolutely! But as others have said, he's better than what's out there at the contract value already in place. They could trade for Romo or sign Cutler but that's gonna cost picks and/or a lot more money. You could draft another project and have them battle it out with Cardale and a cheap veteran but that's not the road I'd go down either. I'd rather take a WR, CB/S with early picks.

Throw out signing bonuses (that don't count against the cap) and his contract is worth exactly his level of play, average for a QB. His highest cap hit is barely $18 mil in 2021, it's short of $16 mil next year. Why restructure when it's already a mid-level contract for a mid-level QB?

He's Jennifer Garner in Draft Day.

To me this was the one clear game where there weren't any terrible calls, the only gripe I had was already mentioned and that was no late hit call when Hogan was hit out of bounds. Instead of blaming the refs for this game, the team should learn how to use both arms to cover the ball at the 1 and call for a fair catch on a punt.

Take out the games against MIA, SD, & HOU as he didn't play vs those teams and it makes what he's done even more impressive. I personally also think we beat SD & HOU if he's playing those games.

I see what you did there.

There isn't a QB worth a #1 draft pick in next years draft anyways. Take the $$ from not having that pick and use it to re-sign/extend impact players already on the team.

LOL......I thought the OL coach was Marrone, being that that was his position when he played and he's supposed to be a OL guru.

At home..yes. What happened a few weeks ago doesn't matter. The Jests took the Patsies to the Brink and we just destroyed NJ, so we should be a good match-up for KC. Plus we'll be coming off the bye so that's another week to rest and prepare.

And right back to being glad I have the ticket.

Use the extra money from the 1st round pick we don't have and re-sign them both.

Because eventually every thread that puts Orton in a positive light is going to turn into an EJ debate. It's inevitable as there are still people out there that feel EJ is better than KO.

That's how I'm rationalizing it. They have us on first tie breaker if we have same records at the end of the season.

Hmmmmmm.......I don't need analytics to tell me that.

Arizona is my pick this week.

The Browns wouldn't take that deal anyways. It would take a lot more than CJ to get Manziel in a trade and I'm not sure that Manziel is that much of a step-up from what we already have. He's one hit that EJ could shake off from being removed from the league altogether. I'd rather let EJ develop on the bench for this season and see what he can do in camp next year.

I only focus on the patsies injury report after kickoff.

And then stood in front of a Donald cut-out, said, "You're Fired"! and threw it off camera.

Hopefully the owner of those season tickets does us all a favor and makes this kid disappear. It shouldn't be too difficult, there's already enough crime in Detroit.

I did see Warner play during his days with the Rams. That's not the Warner I'm talking about. He was a much better player in those days. I'm talking about the aging, seemed at the time to be almost done Warner that was brought in to help teach a young QB (Josh McCown and then Matt Leinart). I have to differ in saying that what Warner did here in AZ wasn't a surprise. He wasn't expected to come in and play right away, he took over the team after an injury and he certainly wasn't expected to come in and do what he did during his years here. His expectations certainly were raised after he took over.It's the same with Orton, he was brought in to back up EJM. In a perfect world he would've been only a mentor and wouldn't be playing right now. Did anyone expect him to put up 300+ on the #1 defense in the NFL. I didn't and doubt many others did either. I do think that game creates some unreasonable expectations for what he and our offense are capable of right now. I never said they were the same player, I said they were walking into similar situations and I hope that Orton can do something close to what Warner did. I do believe this is the best all-around offense Orton has been a part of and think he can do something with it. Only time will tell.

Ummmm.......No. At least EJ has shown flashes of being competent, he just needs time to learn on the bench like he was supposed to when he was drafted.

It's my opinion, and I agree with you that our OC shouldn't be coaching HS football, but I see no reason to think that this offense can't be one of the top offenses in the league. Orton is a much smarter QB than EJ is and that might change some things offensively down the road. He was smart enough to audible on the 2-pt conversion, maybe he'll eventually be able to change plays on the fly to take advantage of the players we have.

It's very likely you're right. All I'm saying is that they've both were put into a similar position. I think our offense is the best offense that Orton has been around and I'm cautiously excited to see what he can do with it. I'm not ready to put him in that category, I just think that potential is there.

I can't help but see a lot of similarities with this Bills QB situation with Orton and the Cardinals situation a few years ago with Warner. Both were good veterans brought in to back-up a talented but raw young QB. Both of those QB's got hurt leaving the veteran to take over the team. I'm not saying the same thing will happen (I'd say it's extremely unlikely that it will but, I hope it does) what I'm saying is that this Bills team reminds me of that Cardinals team. Both offenses consisted of dynamic playmakers and good defenses. All Warner needed to do was be smart and manage games to win and he ended up doing much more. All Orton needs to do is be smart and manage the game. Again, I don't know if lightening can strike twice but I hope it does. It's certainly a more exciting team to watch right now with Orton in there. I hope EJ learns what he needs to and can eventually take the reigns back, then they won't have to use another draft pick on a QB.

A week where I won't need Sunday Ticket, why am I paying for nothing!