GO Bucks

[ExiledInIllinois]

How do you bump a team out of the #3 spot and put a #5 ranked team in it? Heck, numbers 1-4 all won... Sorry OSU, that would be totally unjust if you got in. The top 4 teams ranked should go as they stand now. OSU is the odd man out. How many cracks have they had @ The Big Game and they laid a turd (2007 & 2008) totally embarrassing themselves. Then wasn't their program corrupt just a few short years ago? Keep them out. It would be unprecedented if they bounced one of the 4 top teams to give a sympathy screw to OSU. TCU is #3 and thumped their opponent and did what they had to do. On another note, FSU should be #1. How they aren't #1 is beyond me. An undefeated reigning National Champion not in it, not #1 seed? You gotta be kidding me. Sorry, OSU you picked a bad year to be good and attempt to be relevant. Better luck next year.

 

If the NCAA does something weird, the new system is then more corrupt/rigged than it ever was.

[YoloinOhio]

How do you bump a team out of the #3 spot and put a #5 ranked team in it? Heck, numbers 1-4 all won... Sorry OSU, that would be totally unjust if you got in. The top 4 teams ranked should go as they stand now. OSU is the odd man out. How many cracks have they had @ The Big Game and they laid a turd (2007 & 2008) totally embarrassing themselves. Then wasn't their program corrupt just a few short years ago? Keep them out. It would be unprecedented if they bounced one of the 4 top teams to give a sympathy screw to OSU. TCU is #3 and thumped their opponent and did what they had to do. On another note, FSU should be #1. How they aren't #1 is beyond me. An undefeated reigning National Champion not in it, not #1 seed? You gotta be kidding me. Sorry, OSU you picked a bad year to be good and attempt to be relevant. Better luck next year.

 

If the NCAA does something weird, the new system is then more corrupt/rigged than it ever was.

sorry you are so bitter about OSU for some reason.

 

I think there is a good chance they get in the playoff. They could very well bump TCU. There does not need to be "precedent" because this is the first year of the CFB playoff committee. At this point, there isn't any precedent of anything. They have said all along that it is a week to week decision. They start over with the top 4 every week. They are going to compare the resumes of OSU, TCU, and Baylor and choose the team they think is the best today.

 

OSU: Won outright title, played extra game, 7 wins over teams with winning records, didn't play FCS foe (like Baylor & TCU)

 

Wins vs currently-ranked Top 25 teams (assuming Oklahoma falls out with loss to Ok St)

Ohio State: 2

Baylor: 2

TCU: 1

 

Wins vs bowl-eligible teams:

Ohio State: 9

TCU: 6

Baylor: 5

 

 

Ohio State beat 7 FBS teams with winning records, TCU beat 4 and Baylor beat 3. Yes, Buckeyes have the "worst loss" among them. That was 3 months ago. They aren't playing the playoff games 3 months ago. Nor are they playing it 7 years ago, when they lost the title game, or 4 years ago, when Pryor exchanged his own memorabilia for tattoo discounts. Wow, so corrupt. I have no idea why you think any of that matters regarding the 2014 team. Different coaches and players.

 

The committee is made up of humans, not computers. They know this:

Brutal destructions of a Heisman Trophy campaign:

 

Ohio State: 1 (Melvin Gordon III)

Baylor and TCU: LOL WUT?

 

Reactions to losing two Heisman candidates in one season:

 

Ohio State: Win championship.

Baylor and TCU: *fetal position*

 

National titles won by current HC:

OSU - 2

Baylor - 0

TCU - 0

 

Personally I won't be upset if they don't get in. There are only 4 spots. They are starting 11 freshmen and sophomores and have 3 QBs. Urban is just getting started. But the "attempt to be relevant" comment is the best. Their relevancy is exactly why everyone thinks they will get in!

Edited December 7, 2014 by YoloinOhio

[ExiledInIllinois]

sorry you are so bitter about OSU for some reason.

 

I think there is a good chance they get in the playoff. They could very well bump TCU. There does not need to be "precedent" because this is the first year of the CFB playoff committee. At this point, there isn't any precedent of anything. They have said all along that it is a week to week decision. They start over with the top 4 every week. They are going to compare the resumes of OSU, TCU, and Baylor and choose the team they think is the best today.

 

OSU: Won outright title, played extra game, 7 wins over teams with winning records, didn't play FCS foe (like Baylor & TCU)

 

Wins vs currently-ranked Top 25 teams (assuming Oklahoma falls out with loss to Ok St)

Ohio State: 2

Baylor: 2

TCU: 1

 

Wins vs bowl-eligible teams:

Ohio State: 9

TCU: 6

Baylor: 5

 

 

Ohio State beat 7 FBS teams with winning records, TCU beat 4 and Baylor beat 3. Yes, Buckeyes have the "worst loss" among them. That was 3 months ago. They aren't playing the playoff games 3 months ago. Nor are they playing it 7 years ago, when they lost the title game, or 4 years ago, when Pryor exchanged his own memorabilia for tattoo discounts. Wow, so corrupt. I have no idea why you think any of that matters regarding the 2014 team. Different coaches and players.

 

The committee is made up of humans, not computers. They know this:

Brutal destructions of a Heisman Trophy campaign:

 

Ohio State: 1 (Melvin Gordon III)

Baylor and TCU: LOL WUT?

 

Reactions to losing two Heisman candidates in one season:

 

Ohio State: Win championship.

Baylor and TCU: *fetal position*

 

National titles won by current HC:

OSU - 2

Baylor - 0

TCU - 0

 

Personally I won't be upset if they don't get in. There are only 4 spots. They are starting 11 freshmen and sophomores and have 3 QBs. Urban is just getting started. But the "attempt to be relevant" comment is the best. Their relevancy is exactly why everyone thinks they will get in!

 

Wow... I am not bitter... I actually root for OSU. But something smells rotten if some "commitee" is out there bumping off one of the 4 top teams that didn't lose. If one of those teams lost this weekend... I could see. Since they didn't, they all get in. Plain and simple.

 

Anyway... This new system is even worse than the old. And some thought the old ranking system was bad... Now it just added that everything is rigged, not just the two on top.

 

I know I made the relevant comment, but was OSU punished a few years ago? I would think that would weigh heavy... Earn their way back to the top by falling on the sword, sucking up their lumps for bad behavior? They shouldn't even be pushing for this. Just say: "Thank you Sir, whatever you give me, may I have another." ;-P ;-P

 

Oh well...

Edited December 7, 2014 by ExiledInIllinois

[YoloinOhio]

 

 

Wow... I am not bitter... I actually root for OSU. But something smells rotten if some "commitee" is out there bumping off one of the 4 top teams that didn't lose. If one of those teams lost this weekend... I could see. Since they didn't, they all get in. Plain and simple.

 

Anyway... This new system is even worse than the old. And some thought the old ranking system was bad... Now it just added that everything is rigged, not just the two on top.

 

I know I made the relevant comment, but was OSU punished a few years ago? I would think that would weigh heavy... Earn their way back to the top by falling on the sword, sucking up their lumps for bad behavior? They shouldn't even be pushing for this. Just say: "Thank you Sir, whatever you give me, may I have another." ;-P ;-P

 

Oh well...

yes they were punished. They had a postseason ban in 2012, when they were undefeated. The ban is long over. They already served the NCAA penalty. What would that have to do with whether they qualify for this year's playoff?

[ExiledInIllinois]

What would that have to do with whether they qualify for this year's playoff?

 

To give TCU the benefit of doubt. They were #3 and didn't lose... They thumped their opponent too and fell to #6! What should they have done? Needed to do? Score 100 against the Cyclones? They are not a "convicted felon" like OU is... It was just 2 short years ago, the same program is basically in place. I know they did their time. The NCAA pandered to big money, yet they spank it when it doesn't fit their image. They needed to act righteously and they failed to, they acted in what's best for their pocketbook.

 

I wonder if the Wisconsin coaches were in on it when the game got out of hand?

 

This new system just shows how people should be careful what they wish for... It is even more corrupt now. NCAA pandered to the Big Ten... TCU and the status quo would have been the wholesome route for the NCAA. Unfortunately the system is corrupted by scandel and money.

[YoloinOhio]

 

 

To give TCU the benefit of doubt. They were #3 and didn't lose... They thumped their opponent too and fell to #6! What should they have done? Needed to do? Score 100 against the Cyclones? They are not a "convicted felon" like OU is... It was just 2 short years ago, the same program is basically in place. I know they did their time. The NCAA pandered to big money, yet they spank it when it doesn't fit their image. They needed to act righteously and they failed to, they acted in what's best for their pocketbook.

 

I wonder if the Wisconsin coaches were in on it when the game got out of hand?

 

This new system just shows how people should be careful what they wish for... It is even more corrupt now. NCAA pandered to the Big Ten... TCU and the status quo would have been the wholesome route for the NCAA. Unfortunately the system is corrupted by scandel and money.

blame the Big 12 for not naming a conf champ.

 

If they had though, it would have been Baylor. H2h.

 

The committee explained from the beginning that the resumes change each week for each team. It is not a "poll." They start from scratch on who they think are the 4 best each week. Unfortunately for TCU they had no good wins. Their last game was against a 2-9 team and their best non conf game was Minnesota, an afterthought in the big 10. Baylor had a better win this weekend with kstate, but played no teams out of conference. Samford, northwestern state and UB aren't good enough.

 

Big 12 needs to get a couple more teams and have a champ game.

[YoloinOhio]

Just read the convicted felon part - what are you talking about?

 

And it was not 2 years ago. 2 years ago was the bowl ban.

 

It is not at all the same program. Do you even have the right school (OU)?

 

You do know it was Tressel, correct? Been gone since 2011? Pryor? Left school in 2011? None of the players involved have been here in years. All 5 are in the NFL.

Edited December 9, 2014 by YoloinOhio

[BuffOrange]

blame the Big 12 for not naming a conf champ.

 

If they had though, it would have been Baylor. H2h.

 

The committee explained from the beginning that the resumes change each week for each team. It is not a "poll." They start from scratch on who they think are the 4 best each week. Unfortunately for TCU they had no good wins. Their last game was against a 2-9 team and their best non conf game was Minnesota, an afterthought in the big 10. Baylor had a better win this weekend with kstate, but played no teams out of conference. Samford, northwestern state and UB aren't good enough.

 

Big 12 needs to get a couple more teams and have a champ game.

Sort by "last game & non-conferemce" is so arbitrary. Even if it wasn't, I wouldn't go near the non-conf point; considering said Big10 afterthought (aka their 4th best team) is a whole lot better than the ACC afterthought you lost to by double digits at home.

[YoloinOhio]

 

Sort by "last game & non-conferemce" is so arbitrary. Even if it wasn't, I wouldn't go near the non-conf point; considering said Big10 afterthought (aka their 4th best team) is a whole lot better than the ACC afterthought you lost to by double digits at home.

osu's non conf schedule was better. Sorry. Was it good? Not really. But it was better than either of theirs. Btw Minnesota was an opponent of OSU as well so doesn't matter.

[YoloinOhio]

reality check: per @ESPNStatsInfo, non-conf strength of sked (of 128 schools): OSU: #42, TCU: #116, Baylor: #128

[BuffOrange]

osu's non conf schedule was better. Sorry. Was it good? Not really. But it was better than either of theirs. Btw Minnesota was an opponent of OSU as well so doesn't matter.

 

Are you distinguishing between conf play and non-conf or not? I think it's pointless because your schedule is your schedule but you insist on focusing on non-conf. OK fine. But wait Minnesota is a common opponent so doesn't count! So if tOSU played a real team like K-St or OU instead of Cincy & Kent St that wouldn't count. But those junk teams being less junky than others totally outweighs a 14pt loss to a sub .500 ACC team at home.

 

In conclusion, you want to schedule soft teams that people have heard of but make sure they don't play in conferences that are likely to have other playoff contenders because then they won't count.

[YoloinOhio]

 

 

Are you distinguishing between conf play and non-conf or not? I think it's pointless because your schedule is your schedule but you insist on focusing on non-conf. OK fine. But wait Minnesota is a common opponent so doesn't count! So if tOSU played a real team like K-St or OU instead of Cincy & Kent St that wouldn't count. But those junk teams being less junky than others totally outweighs a 14pt loss to a sub .500 ACC team at home.

 

In conclusion, you want to schedule soft teams that people have heard of but make sure they don't play in conferences that are likely to have other playoff contenders because then they won't count.

what are you talking about...

 

OSU got chosen over TCU because of more wins, beat more bowl eligible teams, conference champs & better wins. Also best *overall* SOS of top 6 behind only Bama.

Edited December 9, 2014 by YoloinOhio

[Cleveland Rocks?]

Are you distinguishing between conf play and non-conf or not? I think it's pointless because your schedule is your schedule but you insist on focusing on non-conf. OK fine. But wait Minnesota is a common opponent so doesn't count! So if tOSU played a real team like K-St or OU instead of Cincy & Kent St that wouldn't count. But those junk teams being less junky than others totally outweighs a 14pt loss to a sub .500 ACC team at home.

 

In conclusion, you want to schedule soft teams that people have heard of but make sure they don't play in conferences that are likely to have other playoff contenders because then they won't count.

the committee did take that into consideration. If they didn't, OSU would have been ranked higher than 4. Why didn't it knock them out? OSU lost its starting Heisman candidate QB 10 days before the season. That was the 2nd game for a freshman who had not taken a snap since his jr yr of HS as he was hurt his sr yr. They had 4 new starters on the OL. The team is completely different now. Why decide who who should make the playoff, being played in January, based on how a team looked 4 months before that? You can hate it if you want, but it is the process of human beings on ther committee who actually - get this - watch the games - making the decisions instead of computers that you seem caught up in. Edited December 9, 2014 by Cleveland Rocks?

[boyst]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jT-jgFObqjA

[YoloinOhio]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jT-jgFObqjA

i was at a bar on campus fri night and they were playing this video on the big screen. I had no idea videos still existed. It was really good though, IMHO. lol.

[YoloinOhio]

What a season! Unforgettable. This team was written off over and over and somehow prevailed. Thank you Bucks!!

Edited January 13, 2015 by YoloinOhio

[Willyville Guy]

Just an unbelievable run to end the season. I haven’t been able to concentrate on anything else since, well, the Michigan game! All the adversity, the teamwork, the chip on their shoulders, super sophomores and the emergence of current and future stars on both sides of the ball, the return of the Silver Bullets, the redemption of Luke Fickell, staying loose and full of humor throughout the playoffs, beating Saban, winning the National Championship....

 

Happy for Buckeye Nation – and hopeful we’ll be able to celebrate a championship for the Bills someday.

[YoloinOhio]

Just an unbelievable run to end the season. I havent been able to concentrate on anything else since, well, the Michigan game! All the adversity, the teamwork, the chip on their shoulders, super sophomores and the emergence of current and future stars on both sides of the ball, the return of the Silver Bullets, the redemption of Luke Fickell, staying loose and full of humor throughout the playoffs, beating Saban, winning the National Championship....

 

Happy for Buckeye Nation and hopeful well be able to celebrate a championship for the Bills someday.

i hope so too. Every die hard fan of every team deserves to have the feeling of a champion.

 

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=f-yP_ORfAJU

[YoloinOhio]

Urban stealing RB coach and recruiting coordinator Tony Alford from ND is a huge home run. Rest easy, Mike Weber.

[YoloinOhio]

[YoloinOhio]

Hurry up September 7th!!!!

[YoloinOhio]

Welp. Rumor of some significant suspensions coming for Va Tech game. Not good.

[Willyville Guy]

I'm hearing it will be receivers. So Braxton's decision to switch to h-back is timely.

 

http://www.si.com/college-football/2015/07/23/braxton-miller-ohio-state-move-wide-receiver

[YoloinOhio]

I'm hearing it will be receivers. So Braxton's decision to switch to h-back is timely.

 

http://www.si.com/college-football/2015/07/23/braxton-miller-ohio-state-move-wide-receiver

yes it sure is. Also will return punts... So maybe it's jalyn Marshall? Dontre Wilson? Hoping for anyone but Michael Thomas. I also heard a rumor about bosa and cardale for game 1. Getting interesting.

 

Anyway the Braxton news is really cool. I had heard he was taking reps at WR. He will be ridiculous.

Edited July 24, 2015 by YoloinOhio

[Willyville Guy]

Thomas and Smith on the outside

Marshall/Wilson in the slot

Samuels/Braxton at H

Filthy

 

Direct snaps to Miller with EZE and Vannett blocking.

 

No clue who will play QB.

 

All that excitement but now I'm worried about what's going on with these rumors. Kids these days....

[YoloinOhio]

Thomas and Smith on the outside

Marshall/Wilson in the slot

Samuels/Braxton at H

Filthy

 

Direct snaps to Miller with EZE and Vannett blocking.

 

No clue who will play QB.

 

All that excitement but now I'm worried about what's going on with these rumors. Kids these days....

Remember when Evan spencer threw the TD pass vs Bama? Imagine being a DC worried about that every time Braxton lines up at WR... Urban is the GOAT!

 

From the way it sounds, could be drugs (pot) and team issued suspension (not a Noah Spence situation) for the 2 WRs. Hearing Cardale skipped class (hardly worthy of a game suspension IMO unless he's not starting) and Bosa a violation of team rules. Just rumors.

 

My pure guess on the WR suspensions are Noah Brown and johnnie Dixon.

 

I sure wish we opened with a cupcake instead of on the road at night vs Va Tech!

Edited July 24, 2015 by YoloinOhio

[YoloinOhio]

Rumor now is Marshall and Corey Smith as the WRs. Sigh. Smith makes sense because he seems to have a 20 cent head. But I thought that about Devin at one time too and he redeemed himself.

 

I love Jalen's talent but would prefer to never see him back to return punts as long as I live.

Edited July 24, 2015 by YoloinOhio

[Willyville Guy]

I have never really understood Corey Smith. He dropped so many balls in the Va. Tech game last year, and never really seemed consistent over the course of the season, but Urban appears to love him and keeps sending him out there. My guess is that Urban will prove me wrong again and Smith will have a great year.

 

Marshall was a beast in the playoffs and earned back a lot of credibility with me. Moving him to the outside opposite Thomas (the real star in that group as far as I can tell) could be a very good thing.

 

Funny thing about the hoopla surrounding Braxton's move to receiver and punt returner -- apparently Urban said that he hasn't even seen the kid catch a ball yet due to NCAA summer rules. I hope the move works out; Braxton has been through so much as a Buckeye, and he has stayed loyal and carried himself with a ton of poise throughout. How firm thy friendship indeed.

 

So many playmakers everywhere we look -- just snap the damn ball already!

[YoloinOhio]

Canisius HS kicker Blake Haubeil (junior) verbally committed tonight at Friday Night Lights. Another commit for 2017. Kind of cool to have a kid from Buffalo playing for the Buckeyes. Last one was Doug Worthington.

Edited July 25, 2015 by YoloinOhio

[Willyville Guy]

Good to see Urban's uncommon practice of offering early scholarships to specialists pay dividends for a Canisius kid.

 

And good to see the younger Bosa sign on as well.

[YoloinOhio]

Good to see Urban's uncommon practice of offering early scholarships to specialists pay dividends for a Canisius kid.

 

And good to see the younger Bosa sign on as well.

#allthebosas

[YoloinOhio]

Suspensions will be announced tomorrow at big 10 media day per sources at the Ozone

[YoloinOhio]

Poster at 11W indicated -

Dontre Wilson

Jalen Marshall

Corey Smith

 

And possibly Bosa

[Willyville Guy]

Ouch - that would be a lot of talent sitting in Urban's doghouse. Not sure how many more chances Wilson in particular will get. I'm very interested to hear what these kids did and how it will be handled by the team/school/league/NCAA.

 

Not that it matters in the big picture, but I'm surprised the athletic department marketing people signed off on a B1G media-day announcement. There is plenty of PR "downtime" during the summer that may be a better time to announce bad news. Or maybe they think the news will be somewhat lost in the shuffle with all of the activity around media day. The AD never really seems to have a good feel for the media in these situations.

[Willyville Guy]

@TIM_MAYsports: Joey Bosa, Jalin Marshall to miss Ohio State opener at VaTech, violation of ath dept. policy sources say. Details at http://t.co/N9h8QRD125

@MarcGivlerBG: Receivers Corey Smith and Dontre Wilson also out for Virginia Tech game per a University statement #Buckeyes

[YoloinOhio]

@TIM_MAYsports: Joey Bosa, Jalin Marshall to miss Ohio State opener at VaTech, violation of ath dept. policy sources say. Details at http://t.co/N9h8QRD125

@MarcGivlerBG: Receivers Corey Smith and Dontre Wilson also out for Virginia Tech game per a University statement #Buckeyes

allegedly it's a drug test for all (that will probably never be confirmed by OSU), it happened about 4 months ago, and they purposely dropped the news 3 hours before he is scheduled to take the podium so they can control the questioning or something.

[Willyville Guy]

I heard it's the pot. Allegedly.

[YoloinOhio]

I heard it's the pot. Allegedly.

yup. So so stupid. But, happens everywhere. It's college kids. But especially for Joey - wake up, man. All eyes are on you. And you could be costing yourself draft slots.

[YoloinOhio]

Ok here's my new theory on why they announced it now. And by "they" I mean Urban, since he calls all the shots over there.

-He is a master of manipulation and psychology with his players. He knows that they are favored by double digits in every game this year. He knows that they played best last year when they were under dogs. He wants them to feel like they still have their backs up against the wall and are are coming from a place of "behind" being down these starters. The sooner he does this, the better

- he wants to take the focus off of the QB battle

- he thinks he has the talent to overcome the losses for this game, so much so that he doesn't care that va tech now doesn't have to prepare for Bosa

- Bosa has already been projected on some mock drafts as a #1 overall pick and he already has won the national championship. Other than a few relatively meaningless individual cfb awards, he virtually has nothing left to prove. Urban knows he has to motivate him this year because though I don't think he has the same mentality, he could go full Clowney. So while Urban could have probably swept this under the rug and punished him differently, bosa will have to deal with this and feel something extra to prove and overcome the character concern with his play.

- urban is laying down the law on how his program will be run. It doesn't matter who you are. He doesn't want another Noah spence situation pop up before a bowl game.

 

I heard it's the pot. Allegedly.

@schadjoe: Ohio State players were suspended for marijuana and academics per source

 

I think Bosa was academics

Edited July 30, 2015 by YoloinOhio

[Willyville Guy]

I think you’re onto something important. UFM needs to keep this team angry and focused, so I do not discount the psychological/motivational part of this.

 

Another thing could be the pressure he’s under to hold his players accountable and treat everyone equal. We know what “they” say about his time in Florida – showing favoritism, allowing certain players to operate above the rules that applied to the rest of the team, losing control. Hell, some jokers out there blame Meyer for Aaron Hernandez’s actions. We know that’s crap, at least since he’s come home, because he quietly benched Marcus Hall for the 2013 B1G championship following the fight and fingers that broke out during The Game. That showed Meyer has little tolerance for nonsense and is willing to bench his best players in big games for not behaving up to standards. This is an extension of that. He’s a new man now (at least in terms of player discipline) and wants everyone to know it.

 

And finally, I think he’s excited to see and show the depth on this team. I mean, people may have heard by now that Ohio State backups tend to do well when opportunities present themselves (ahem). His smirk during today’s presser leads me to believe that he’s excited to see some of the underclassmen get an opportunity to earn the privilege of playing time.

 

All of this relates to an overarching point. The Woody Hayes Athletic Center is loaded with athletes right now, all of whom are foaming at the mouth to get a chance to make a difference. Meyer is sending a message that the team needs to stay focused, nobody gets special treatment, and if a starter makes a mistake and has to spend some time on the bench there is no guaranty that the he will get back on the field when the punishment is over. Lots of pressure and competition in that building right now.