Orlando Tim Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: We average two mass shootings a day in the USA If liberals want to stop mass shootings then they must do what all the conservative areas do, it is amazing that so many things that liberals whine about are mainly centralized in liberal areas. Conservatives complain about things that are centralized in liberal areas also. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArdmoreRyno Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 18 hours ago, Tiberius said: We average two mass shootings a day in the USA No we don't. We average two large scale gang/drug shootings a day in he USA 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 1 minute ago, ArdmoreRyno said: No we don't. We average two large scale gang/drug shootings a day in he USA So many guns lead to people shooting each other. Massacres everyday You seem to dehumanize people by saying gangs, drugs, blah blah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 Just now, Tiberius said: So many guns lead to people shooting each other. Massacres everyday You seem to dehumanize people by saying gangs, drugs, blah blah. and your goal is to ban assault rifles? make it harder for legal citizens to defend themselves? There is this old fashion thing called law and order. its making a comeback. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUNY_amherst Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 Gangsters have 2nd Amendment rights too 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 11 minutes ago, SUNY_amherst said: Gangsters have 2nd Amendment rights too By our current laws and depending on your definition of "gangster," no they don't. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUNY_amherst Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 13 minutes ago, LeviF said: By our current laws and depending on your definition of "gangster," no they don't. yeah they do. All Americans are given protections by the Bill of Rights, ya'll can't pick and choose who you want to exercise their 2nd Amendment rights 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 1 minute ago, SUNY_amherst said: yeah they do. All Americans are given protections by the Bill of Rights, ya'll can't pick and choose who you want to exercise their 2nd Amendment rights If you want to try to take the 2nd Amendment absolutist line to its natural end, you probably should brush up a little on history. The Bill of Rights did not protect "all Americans" as we understand that phrase today. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 5 minutes ago, SUNY_amherst said: yeah they do. All Americans are given protections by the Bill of Rights, ya'll can't pick and choose who you want to exercise their 2nd Amendment rights you ever Fill out a NICKS check? Something about criminals, felons and drugs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUNY_amherst Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 2 minutes ago, LeviF said: If you want to try to take the 2nd Amendment absolutist line to its natural end, you probably should brush up a little on history. The Bill of Rights did not protect "all Americans" as we understand that phrase today. Well they weren't specific enough 1 minute ago, Chris farley said: you ever Fill out a NICKS check? Something about criminals, felons and drugs No but I filled out a NICS check. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 Just now, SUNY_amherst said: Well they weren't specific enough Federalist papers. 29 is a good one to start. Heller VS DC McDonald vs Chicago 1936 Machine gun ban NYS Bruen 5 minutes ago, SUNY_amherst said: Well they weren't specific enough No but I filled out a NICS check. Then you already know why a gangster cant own a gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 26 minutes ago, LeviF said: By our current laws and depending on your definition of "gangster," no they don't. So many guns out there that young people in many communities only feel safe with a gun, and when something stupid happens, as happens with young people, they go for their guns. We have recreated the wild west Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUNY_amherst Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 Just now, Chris farley said: Federalist papers. 29 is a good one to start. Heller VS DC McDonald vs Chicago 1936 Machine gun ban NYS Bruen Those are interpretations. Those are not the US Constitution. Can't believe I have to say that to another, I'm assuming, educated?, American 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Tiberius said: So many guns out there that young people in many communities only feel safe with a gun, and when something stupid happens, as happens with young people, they go for their guns. We have recreated the wild west Question: what happened in the "wild west" that turned it less wild? Answer: the state shooting, hanging, or locking up the people making it wild. Interesting. Maybe we could try that. Edited September 21 by LeviF 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 2 minutes ago, LeviF said: Question: what happened in the "wild west" that turned it less wild? Answer: the state shooting, hanging, or locking up the people making it wild. Interesting. Maybe we could try that. We lock up more people than anyone. Drain the swamp of guns and we won't have two mass shootings a day Stop the arms race on the street Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 1 minute ago, Tiberius said: We lock up more people than anyone. Drain the swamp of guns and we won't have two mass shootings a day Stop the arms race on the street The west still had all the guns when it turned tame. This "America incarcerates too much" nonsense has been laughed out of the room. Every day criminals are released back onto the street without so much as an arrest processing. As I've posted before, the solutions *that don't involve gun confiscation* to this are laughably simple. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 7 minutes ago, LeviF said: Question: what happened in the "wild west" that turned it less wild? Answer: the state shooting, hanging, or locking up the people making it wild. Interesting. Maybe we could try that. Come on. the answer is to sue the gun companies, ammo companies and car companies. 4 minutes ago, Tiberius said: We lock up more people than anyone. Drain the swamp of guns and we won't have two mass shootings a day you going door to door? like a science experiment? start where the gun violence per capita is the highest? or like the cops/military? articulate the logistics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 2 minutes ago, LeviF said: The west still had all the guns when it turned tame. This "America incarcerates too much" nonsense has been laughed out of the room. Every day criminals are released back onto the street without so much as an arrest processing. As I've posted before, the solutions *that don't involve gun confiscation* to this are laughably simple. It's just way too easy for anyone to get guns. Locking up people isn't the answer. The guns will still flood the local communities. Drain the swamp of guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUNY_amherst Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 11 minutes ago, LeviF said: Question: what happened in the "wild west" that turned it less wild? Answer: the state shooting, hanging, or locking up the people making it wild. Interesting. Maybe we could try that. I'm down, these guys that conspired against the constitution to change an election result should be shot or hanged Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 1 minute ago, Tiberius said: It's just way too easy for anyone to get guns. Locking up people isn't the answer. The guns will still flood the local communities. Drain the swamp of guns. If everyone in the local community is high-trust, a reasonable IQ, and not inclined toward crime, will the guns just walk around and kill people on their own? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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