Tolstoy Posted January 25, 2005 Share Posted January 25, 2005 Whether through draft or free agency, what three positions on the Bills do you think need a talent infusion most? (note: Do not say QB unless you think they need to draft someone or pick someone up in free agency) I would be curious to see whether our sentiments are shared by the front office. Here are my thoughts: Greatest need: Offensive Line--Despite great improvement in the line, it is still inconsistent and not quite dominant enough. The loss of Jennings would hurt. 2nd greatest need: Wide receiver--Our top two receivers are very good, but after that it gets shallow very quickly. I shudder to imagine if Evans or Moulds gets injured next season. 3rd greatest need: Defensive line--While we seem to have depth here, we still lack that dominant pass rusher from the outside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted January 25, 2005 Share Posted January 25, 2005 In order, I have 4-- Left Guard-another Nasty guy like Chris V. Move Tucker to Depth--he can back up all 3 interior OL positions--bye-bye to Pucillo. Left Tackle-prefer to sign our own to a reasonable deal here. Tight End-Questionable Comeback from Injury for Euhus and Campbell Kicker-I have no confidence that Rian Lindell would make a kick with an important game on the line... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tolstoy Posted January 25, 2005 Author Share Posted January 25, 2005 Crap, I forgot about kicker. It would be number three for me. I agree with your assessment . Don't you think, however, that we need an upgrade at the #3 WR? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tux of Borg Posted January 25, 2005 Share Posted January 25, 2005 1) OL 2) DE (someone that can actually get to the QB) 3) Kicker 4) More Bills fans in the stands. (12th man) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkady Renko Posted January 25, 2005 Share Posted January 25, 2005 1) OL 2) Kicker 3) Jeff Posey 4) Missionary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted January 25, 2005 Share Posted January 25, 2005 Crap, I forgot about kicker. It would be number three for me. I agree with your assessment . Don't you think, however, that we need an upgrade at the #3 WR? 217682[/snapback] I may be crazy--but I am willing to give Aiken, Reed and Smith one more shot. WR Depth would be in my second tier of needs with DT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CajunBillsBacker Posted January 25, 2005 Share Posted January 25, 2005 1) LT - Assuming Jennings leaves, Teague CANNOT take over the LT spot. He was run out of Denver for a reason. I'd like to see the Bills take this position seriously and make it our biggest priority this offseason. I'd love to see Jennings back though. 2) WR - Not our starters, Moulds and Evans are good for now. I'd love to see the Bills add another dangerous threat, a big WR type. Imagine having Moulds and Evans wideout, and Plaxico Burress in the slot. That's just sick! 3) K - Lindell sucks. I dream of the days when the Bills are in position to win a game with a FG and not having to worry as much when the Bills enter the 30 yard line. Lindell is not even safe on extra points. Any other positions to upgrade would be for depth purposes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fake-Fat Sunny Posted January 25, 2005 Share Posted January 25, 2005 Individual players are important but in terms of winning football the team is the thing. I'm even more convinced by the Ws racked up by NE that the key to winning is for the whole to perform better than the sum of the individual parts so my list of improvements looks like this: 1. MM deserves credit for implementing and pushing the idea of two way players even before it was popularized by BB's use of Troy Brown to fill the gap at DB caused by the injuries to Law and Poole. BB has done this before but never to the extent he has with Brown whose efforts harken to the ghost of Bronko Nagurski (an HOF two way guy from way back for you youngsters). Even before Brown was pressed into serious service MM made use of Bannan and Adams on the OL to improve our redzone performance. Our consideration of individuals is certainly important (particularly to those of us who have taken the fake world of the NFL and made it even more fake with fantasy leagues, but the big deal for the Bills racking up more Ws is to remind the athletes that they are football players rather than specialists. 2. I think better position players are great, but in the world of the salary cap we outside observers need to get beyond demanding that every player be a Pro Bowler because it ain't gonna happen. I think the calls for Posey replacement are particularly misguided given that the D is quite productive even with complaints (not linked to specific plays where we got burned for a TD or a big gain because faults in his play) about Posey. I don't think this means he should get a free pass and be designated the starter regardless of his play. It means to me that rather than spending our too scare cap resources on finding a Pro Bowler to replace him, I'm actually more interested in us finding an LB who will push him for his job and use competition to improve his play, but perhaps more importantly show the flexibility to be a back-up starter for Posey, Spikes or Fletcher if necessary. At OLB I;m less interested in trying to find a needle in a haystack like the next Bryce Paup and instead look for the LB equivalent of Marcus Price who backed up for the LT and RT slots for us or Ryan Denney who backed up both the RDE and LDE slots. 3. Its tough to complain at all about ST because of the extraordinary production in virtually all facets of the game. Still the opportunities for us to look for depth makes good ST chops and even more important factor in picking new Bills. As far as specific positions, I actually have always had good luck with the missionary position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horus Posted January 25, 2005 Share Posted January 25, 2005 1) OL2) Kicker 3) Jeff Posey 4) Missionary 217689[/snapback] #4 is funny man.. 1 - Kicker - need a kicker we can rely on 2 - DE - need more of a pass rusher 3 - OL - LT if jenings leaves and G 4 - TE - need a well rounded one here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted January 25, 2005 Share Posted January 25, 2005 kicker is huge. It doesn't appear we will be able to get a quality guy off FA, so we will need to draft him. Some are saying Nugent is the best kicker to enter the draft ever. EVER. Can you imagine getting him now, and having him around for the next 8 or 10 seasons? The kid can kick. Also, I think we have a better chance of getting the other positions off of FA. (like OL). Oh, and we can use the 2nd rounder on Nugent, as it seems likely we will get another 2nd rounder for TH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP-era Posted January 25, 2005 Share Posted January 25, 2005 In order, I have 4-- Left Guard-another Nasty guy like Chris V. Move Tucker to Depth--he can back up all 3 interior OL positions--bye-bye to Pucillo. Left Tackle-prefer to sign our own to a reasonable deal here. Tight End-Questionable Comeback from Injury for Euhus and Campbell Kicker-I have no confidence that Rian Lindell would make a kick with an important game on the line... 217677[/snapback] i have the exact same take! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USMCBillsFan Posted January 25, 2005 Share Posted January 25, 2005 kicker is huge. It doesn't appear we will be able to get a quality guy off FA, so we will need to draft him. Some are saying Nugent is the best kicker to enter the draft ever. EVER. Can you imagine getting him now, and having him around for the next 8 or 10 seasons? The kid can kick. Also, I think we have a better chance of getting the other positions off of FA. (like OL). Oh, and we can use the 2nd rounder on Nugent, as it seems likely we will get another 2nd rounder for TH. 217912[/snapback] Does everybody think Nugent will last to our pick? If he's as awesome as everyone says and the best kicker to enter the draft EVER then what do we need to do to get him? Move up in the draft? What are our options? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted January 25, 2005 Share Posted January 25, 2005 Assuming Jennings is a goner....LT, LG and K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted January 25, 2005 Share Posted January 25, 2005 Does everybody think Nugent will last to our pick? If he's as awesome as everyone says and the best kicker to enter the draft EVER then what do we need to do to get him? Move up in the draft? What are our options? 217925[/snapback] As big of a kick in the balls to Henry this would be, if we got a high 2nd rounder for Henry, then used it for Nugent, that would be like Trading Travis for for a college kicker.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyT Posted January 25, 2005 Share Posted January 25, 2005 1) LG 2) DE 3) TE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USMCBillsFan Posted January 25, 2005 Share Posted January 25, 2005 As big of a kick in the balls to Henry this would be, if we got a high 2nd rounder for Henry, then used it for Nugent, that would be like Trading Travis for for a college kicker.... 217927[/snapback] To me that's worth it. Vinateri is a prime example of how important a good kicker is. Ask the Jets.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Like A Mofo Posted January 25, 2005 Share Posted January 25, 2005 Here IMO are the 3 most pressing needs for the Bills: 1. LG 2. LB- Posey has to go, or at least be a backup 3. CB-To me, you can never have enough good corners. Honorable mentions: K and TE (Could even make kicker 1a) Im all for the Bills making their defense even stronger, especially when you consider the conference the Bills are in and the conditions the Bills play in when the games mean the most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob4Bills Posted January 25, 2005 Share Posted January 25, 2005 kicker is huge. It doesn't appear we will be able to get a quality guy off FA, so we will need to draft him. Some are saying Nugent is the best kicker to enter the draft ever. EVER. Can you imagine getting him now, and having him around for the next 8 or 10 seasons? The kid can kick. Yeah and we thought the same thing about Gary Anderson... someone f**ked up.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnTheRocks Posted January 25, 2005 Share Posted January 25, 2005 TE C LG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarthur31 Posted January 25, 2005 Share Posted January 25, 2005 Whether through draft or free agency, what three positions on the Bills do you think need a talent infusion most? (note: Do not say QB unless you think they need to draft someone or pick someone up in free agency) I would be curious to see whether our sentiments are shared by the front office. Here are my thoughts: Greatest need: Offensive Line--Despite great improvement in the line, it is still inconsistent and not quite dominant enough. The loss of Jennings would hurt. 2nd greatest need: Wide receiver--Our top two receivers are very good, but after that it gets shallow very quickly. I shudder to imagine if Evans or Moulds gets injured next season. 3rd greatest need: Defensive line--While we seem to have depth here, we still lack that dominant pass rusher from the outside. 217667[/snapback] LOL. It's all the QB fault! Seriously, we've needed help there for years. Mike has improved drastically on the right this year. LG is such a need it's not funny. While Shobel is quite capable, he doesn't generate enough pressure. The other side is pretty bad with regards to this too. Sacks are overrated, IMO. We need more pressure w/o having to blitz LB's. We definitely need a better kicker who we can trust with 40 yard FG's too. Not 47 yarders mind you but those within a yard or two of 40. We also need a 3 and a 4 at WR who can catch consistently. Let's not forget that we need a RB to backup Willis. Shaud is very good but I'm not convinced he take a pounding for an entire NFL season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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