mrags Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Exactly, Taking a TE is just wasting draft picks and/or $$. You can't keep dumping players or picks you just got without giving them time to mature and prove their worth or lack there of. You don't even list the blocking TE Lee Smith believe is his name, that makes five total. Likely two of those five will be cut, now we want to add a sixth. It's different with DB, lineman, evan receivers where you have a large number of them on the roster so not a big deal cutting one of the weaker ones to make room for a better player. But really think Chandler, Moeaki and Gragg are worth looking at unless they already know one of them isn't as good as they've been letting on. What they don't have is that big WR which is why I'd like to see the pick be Evens. I'm almost hoping Watkins is gone by #9 which sounds like will be the case so no big debate as to which one to take. While I do think Watkins likely will be very good, to me he's another clone of Woods, may be better, but still very similar. Evens gives them something much different. (another James Hardy:) ) i have a hard time following your post because you can't seem to differentiate Evans, and even. And another James Hardy sounds horrible if you ask me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 Someone else said this but it makes total sense - at pick 9, you don't take a RT...you can get a good RT in rounds 2-7. At pick 9 you take a playmaker and that has to be the best WR or TE/WR (Grahamlike player) available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 Someone else said this but it makes total sense - at pick 9, you don't take a RT...you can get a good RT in rounds 2-7. At pick 9 you take a playmaker and that has to be the best WR or TE/WR (Grahamlike player) available. Jimmy Graham was drafted in the 3rd round. I understand what you're saying, but playmakers can be, and are obtained in any round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 Jimmy Graham was drafted in the 3rd round. I understand what you're saying, but playmakers can be, and are obtained in any round. Graham barely played College football...One season at Miami and he had 17 receptions for 213 yds...The reason he was Drafted in the 3rd round was his incredible athletic ability (he did play all 4 years of B-Ball at Miami), and the fact that 5 of those 17 receptions went for TD's...Rest assured if Graham played as much as Ebron did in College he would have been a top 10 pick...And there will very likely be no Eric Ebron's obtained in any of the other rounds of this Draft...Like Graham he's a very unique talent... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 The Bills have Chandler, Mike Claussen, Chris Gragg and Mike Moeaki, there is no way they draft a TE. I don't know how anyone can look at that list and think this team has anything close to an upper echelon TE group. How does that group compete with the likes of Gronkowski, Cameron, Julius Thomas, Jimmy Graham, etc? This team has needed talent at the position for literally decades now. Chandler can be a great safety valve but can't do anything at the second level. Ebron is among the group that I would take at #9, because we have seen time and again what kind of difference a receiving threat at that position can make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 Jimmy Graham was drafted in the 3rd round. I understand what you're saying, but playmakers can be, and are obtained in any round. good point...shoot, Freddie Jax was an UDFA. You know what I mean though. Taking a RT if there is a game changer on the board is foolish (in my humble opinion) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 (edited) Graham barely played College football...One season at Miami and he had 17 receptions for 213 yds...The reason he was Drafted in the 3rd round was his incredible athletic ability (he did play all 4 years of B-Ball at Miami), and the fact that 5 of those 17 receptions went for TD's...Rest assured if Graham played as much as Ebron did in College he would have been a top 10 pick...And there will very likely be no Eric Ebron's obtained in any of the other rounds of this Draft...Like Graham he's a very unique talent... There have only been a handful of TE's ever drafted in the top 10. The elite TE's in the game today have all been drafted in late first round through 4th round, for the most part. I like Ebron, and if we take him with our 1st pick I certainly won't be crying. But fact is there are other solid TE's in this draft that can become very good NFL TE's. IMO, it's not Ebron or bust at the TE position. Edited March 16, 2014 by bobobonators Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 There seems to be a bit debate about Evans, Ebron, or an OT...But it looks to me like just about everyone agrees it's going to be one of those three... Assuming Clowney, Robinson, Watkins, and Mack all go in the top 8...Are we close to agreeing that IF the Bills stay at #9 the pick will come down to Evans, Ebron, Matthews, or Lewan? Because even narrowing it down to that would be something... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 There seems to be a bit debate about Evans, Ebron, or an OT...But it looks to me like just about everyone agrees it's going to be one of those three... Assuming Clowney, Robinson, Watkins, and Mack all go in the top 8...Are we close to agreeing that IF the Bills stay at #9 the pick will come down to Evans, Ebron, Matthews, or Lewan? Because even narrowing it down to that would be something... You forgot the trade down option! Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 There have only been a handful of TE's ever drafted in the top 10. The elite TE's in the game today have all been drafted in late first round through 4th round, for the most part. I like Ebron, and if we take him with our 1st pick I certainly won't be crying. But fact is there are other solid TE's in this draft that can become very good NFL TE's. IMO, it's not Ebron or bust at the TE position. Fair enough...I'm not all about Ebron or bust...Nothing like that...But I do feel he is unique...And I doubt very much there is another prospect like him in this Draft...I do agree there are other TE's that may be effective though... You forgot the trade down option! Lol Stop!!!...I was so close!!!... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billnutinphoenix Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 Look at what the Pats did - getting Revis and Browner....I see a WR for our pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 They could freak everybody out and take CJ Mosely. That'd be banannas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
....lybob Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 Trade down and Aaron Donald Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clutchwarfare Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 There seems to be a bit debate about Evans, Ebron, or an OT...But it looks to me like just about everyone agrees it's going to be one of those three... Assuming Clowney, Robinson, Watkins, and Mack all go in the top 8...Are we close to agreeing that IF the Bills stay at #9 the pick will come down to Evans, Ebron, Matthews, or Lewan? Because even narrowing it down to that would be something... Yes! This is actually EXACTLY what I was thinking. I think the Bills use #9 pick on Evans, Ebron, Matthews, or Lewan. And I would be happy with any of those guys as our 1st in 2014. Ebron will be a game changer but an OT is a very big need to fill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 I don't think they need a top 10 type talent to make the line good, they already have a LT. A 2nd or 3rd O-lineman should be fine. They need to get a playmaker, on either side of the ball with a top 10 pick. When you are selecting that high, you need to get a special player, a guy that handles the ball (if an offensive player). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 Blake Bortles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggerdaddynj Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 I think now they trade out for more picks or trade with someone for another pick and next years first Hope you're right. Deep draft + more picks = good draft. Keep building for the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 (edited) Blake Bortles He's still the odds on favorite to go #1 IMHO...I think the Houston people in the know would back me up on it too...O'Brien likes him and is on record saying as much....The new Texans HC is also close with George O'Leary so he's going to get the complete scoop on the kid...O'Leary has been careful not to over-hype Bortles admitting he's going to need time, and he did say that Bortles does not compare to Andrew Luck at this point... "Blake has all the things you're looking for in a quarterback as far as size and mental capacity to handle a lot of things," O'Leary said . "But that first year is tough because those guys are moving a lot faster than the college guys. ... Blake is going to be fine-tuned to what he needs to get done in the pro ranks. He's a quick study and a quick learner." Then there's long time Houston reporter John McClain's quotes... "Each day I get asked multiple times: Who are Texans drafting? I tell them 1 of the 3 top QBs. Forget about any other position," "I believe the Texans will keep the top pick and take the highest-rated QB on their board. Too early to say who at this point. Lots of time left," "I'm still amazed to read and hear so many nationally predicting the Texans won't take a QB with their first-round pick. It'll be a QB!" Finally...Bortles line at Penn St. last year...20/27...288 yds...3 TD's...1 INT...A QBR of 95.9... At the end of the day I'll be surprised if Bortles does not go #1 overall...I'm not saying I think that's what the Texans should do necessarily...But I do think it's what they will do... Edited March 16, 2014 by KOKBILLS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewildrabbit Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 TE Scott Chandler was last years leading receiver on the team, and although Chan Gailey didn't put a high value on the TE position. It just might be that even though the team already has Moeaki, Chandler, that they could want an elite player at that position, and Ebron would fit that mold. The thing is, I see many draft sites grading Ebron as an early to middle round pick, and going anywhere from 14 to 20, so the Bills could trade back and land him. That said, It wouldn't surprise me at all to see the Bills draft a safety with the #9.Hasean Haha Clinton-Dix. They lose a top safety, so they draft another. All this talk of a right tackle is a waste of time considering who they just signed to play LG, as this team simply doesn't put a premium on RT position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 I have just started watching Ha Ha Clinton-Dix vids, and I have to say I really like the way that guy plays. He plays with an attitude that the Bills could use. I hate to think that they are just replacing Byrd, but I might be happy with Dix (I know...very funny. Ha Ha). Definitely prefer him to an O-lineman. He plays the run great, and tackles with such authority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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