Fingon Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Byrd struck gold. He gets his $28 million and he gets to test the market again in a year or two when Saints cut him. No other team could offer that deal because NO doesn't care about future dead cap money, they're going to blow that roster up anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean Cain Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 I disapprove, only in that I would have told him sign a long-term deal or get franchised. Reason being Byrd would have been 29 in the 2015 season. Most teams don't want to pay a slower speed S who's nearly 30 a 5-6 year deal. I get the Bills rationale - that they didn't want a locker room distraction or another 6 games missed due to plantar fasciitis. I respect the Bills for holding out hope, but wish they deployed a bit more gamesmanship in bringing Byrd to sign a multi year contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 My POV on this is that it should have never gotten this far with Byrd. OBD should have figured out how to lock him up years ago. "Blame" lies with both parties because players are not loyal. They want to get paid in contract #2. Oh, and just wait until all the threads emerge when he's in the playoffs this year...not because of his play, but because, you know, his team has a top 5 QB. Do you know what Brees' cap number is this yr? In buffalo we wouldve let Brees walk bc as the Bills' motto goes: NO player is worth that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Its amazing how teams like the saints and broncos, who were in much worse financial positions than us manage to dominate FA. Then again, theyre in the playoffs every year and we havent been there in a decade and a half. Obviously our FO is outclassed in every way. Byrd wanted a chance to play on a winning team and not this abomination of a franchise. the NFCS isn't going to be as strong as they have been in the last few years. That's what gets me. The Saints are aging out. Panthers will decline. Tampa with get a little better and Atlanta can only get better The NFCE for example is poised to get stronger as the parity there is much better of an example of teams making opponents stronger. The NFVW, NFCN. They're on the way up.I ddon't see how NO is more primed then we are for continued success. But byrd didn't care about that. Just the $$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 2 years?? So you're going to pay him close to $20 mil for 2015 as that's what I've read the tag costs for a third year the average of highest paid players, i.e. QB And you won't see him in June at all, if you're real lucky it will be Septemeber, but more likely mid Nov, just in time for game #10. And until he signs the tag can't fine him either. So exactly how is your statagy going to frighten him into crying uncle?? Don't care about anything else but tag him. Tag him, keep the long term deal on the table and leave the room. Tell him we will see him in June, we will fine him whatever possible and he is ours for 2 more years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 the NFCS isn't going to be as strong as they have been in the last few years. That's what gets me. The Saints are aging out. Panthers will decline. Tampa with get a little better and Atlanta can only get better The NFCE for example is poised to get stronger as the parity there is much better of an example of teams making opponents stronger. The NFVW, NFCN. They're on the way up.I ddon't see how NO is more primed then we are for continued success. But byrd didn't care about that. Just the $$ NO is no more primed for success than us? Maybe in 20 yrs when sean payton is playing golf on sundays will the bills be more primed for success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 2 years?? So you're going to pay him close to $20 mil for 2015 as that's what I've read the tag costs for a third year the average of highest paid players, i.e. QB And you won't see him in June at all, if you're real lucky it will be Septemeber, but more likely mid Nov, just in time for game #10. And until he signs the tag can't fine him either. So exactly how is your statagy going to frighten him into crying uncle?? it was like $12mm at most. 44% more then his previous year or something.l like that. Averaged out. And used as leverage. Its a win win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 He wanted to test the market. There's not much the Bills can do to avoid that, without severely overpaying. I'm disappointed that our team has gotten worse over the offseason so far, but it is what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 This poll probably would have been better as a grade. I am fine with the job that they did but it wasn't perfect IMO. I voted yes but would have probably graded it as a B or B-. They should have presented a stronger long term offer last year. I still would have used the tag to either negotiate or facilitate a trade (which I still believe could have been done). In the end though, the Bills did not overpay which is a win to me assuming that those dollars are allocated appropriately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPS Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 I'm over it. They lost with Byrd. I'm sure they can lose without him. Hey, there's an opportunity for someone to step in. Maybe they'll be better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 NO is no more primed for success than us? Maybe in 20 yrs when sean payton is playing golf on sundays will the bills be more primed for success. this Saints team is much like the Bills of the 90's. Are they in the Jerry Butler stage now? I don't know for certain, But they have a lot of high end talent at extremely high costs. The Jimmy Graham tag is amazingly complex. Their success does not appear, at least from my vantage, to be on a continued plan for success over the next 4-5 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 this Saints team is much like the Bills of the 90's. Are they in the Jerry Butler stage now? I don't know for certain, But they have a lot of high end talent at extremely high costs. The Jimmy Graham tag is amazingly complex. Their success does not appear, at least from my vantage, to be on a continued plan for success over the next 4-5 years. I follow them relatively closely living down here and the will look a lot different this year. They will most likely lose 2 starting OL (De La Puente, Strief), their backs and WR will be different and their DL young. They are trying to remake the core of the roster while Brees still has a couple of years left. Personally, I think that are about 9-7 & will struggle to protect Brees. JMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justnzane Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 The FO weren't going to play games with Parker. I give Whaley credit by not getting stuck paying $10 million/year when the team has bigger holes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kellyto83TD Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 I now realize they did a great job. Byrd flat out didn't want to be here period. Also he isn't worth the money, he just isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 I follow them relatively closely living down here and the will look a lot different this year. They will most likely lose 2 starting OL (De La Puente, Strief), their backs and WR will be different and their DL young. They are trying to remake the core of the roster while Brees still has a couple of years left. Personally, I think that are about 9-7 & will struggle to protect Brees. JMO Tampa 9-7NO 9-7/8-8 Carolina 7-9 Atlanta 6-10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juno999 Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Tim Graham said last night his source says the Bills offer was about $7.5 million annually. Considering the Ward, Whitner, Mitchell, Bethea, etc. contracts....that was fair market value. The Saints then blew that market out of the water with the $9 million average. I think the Saints got a good player but paid too much for a guy who has bad feet. Their cap situation is pretty bad and they still have Jimmy Graham to work out. On the surface, this signing looks good today but in a couple of years maybe not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 I think it was handled poorly from the sense that they couldn't execute a tag and trade. They had two chances to do this, and I feel like they never seriously explored it. Odds are they could have gotten a deal similar to the revis trade-- conditional 3rd rounder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowery4 Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 I disapprove, only in that I would have told him sign a long-term deal or get franchised. Reason being Byrd would have been 29 in the 2015 season. Most teams don't want to pay a slower speed S who's nearly 30 a 5-6 year deal. I get the Bills rationale - that they didn't want a locker room distraction or another 6 games missed due to plantar fasciitis. I respect the Bills for holding out hope, but wish they deployed a bit more gamesmanship in bringing Byrd to sign a multi year contract. I think it was handled poorly from the sense that they couldn't execute a tag and trade. They had two chances to do this, and I feel like they never seriously explored it. Odds are they could have gotten a deal similar to the revis trade-- conditional 3rd rounder. ^ Those are why the FO got my no vote, you have to get trade value out the door if someone leaves. But I do think we drafted forvthis moment, still to be seen, the results of that IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HansLanda Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Do you know what Brees' cap number is this yr? In buffalo we wouldve let Brees walk bc as the Bills' motto goes: NO player is worth that much. The only player I think any NFL team, including ours, has a blank check for is an (actual, not perceived) franchise QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drifter Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Byrd was never going to stay here, he wanted to go to a winning team. This front office is operating like the Steelers, pay the critical positions and let the others walk. Free safety is not a critical position and should not eat up a large portion of the cap. Here's hoping Whaley can hit in the draft better than our previous GM's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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