jonramz Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 (edited) UPDATE: I diagramed every pass against the Jets as well... see below http://yardsperpass.com/?p=414 So I really like the strategy aspect of football... and after watching Thad and Tuel throw the ball downfield w/ some effectiveness, I wanted to see why EJ wasn't doing the same. Therefore I diagrammed every pass play the Bills called against the Steelers. http://yardsperpass.com/?p=393 Things that I noticed were that there definitely were downfield throws that could have been made. EJ is not the best QB at throwing hooks/curls and still seems to need to see the guy open before he throws it. However, I think that he has the raw talent to be a good QB in the NFL. Anyways, I thought it would be interesting to discuss... -Jon Edited November 20, 2013 by jonramz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 Dude, this is seriously awesome. You obviously put a ton of time into this too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefenseWinzChampionshipz Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 (edited) Play 13 gotta go... it has everybody stopping and turning at the same yard and distance. I know it's not accurate but if it is, then Hackett gotta go for even drawing up a simple play like that. Edited November 13, 2013 by DefenseWinzChampionshipz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonramz Posted November 13, 2013 Author Share Posted November 13, 2013 Play 13 gotta go... it has everybody stopping and turning at the same yard and distance. I know it's not accurate but if it is, then Hackett gotta go for even drawing up a simple play like that. That play is one of the Bills favorites to run... they run it at least once or twice a game! Dude, this is seriously awesome. You obviously put a ton of time into this too. Thanks man, appreciate it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jukester Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 Nice job. Did you do this using the all-22? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefenseWinzChampionshipz Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 That play is one of the Bills favorites to run... they run it at least once or twice a game! Thanks man, appreciate it! In that case we should just play backyard football and in the huddle, EJ should say, ok guys just get open. .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 Nice work Jon. I had a tough time deciphering your notes re. the distance of the passes attempted. Can you tell me how many passes were attempted over 15 yards and how many were in the 1-15 yd range? Thanks bro and this is really great work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalScotts Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 this is good - thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 Bookmarked. Nice job! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 Nice work Jon. I had a tough time deciphering your notes re. the distance of the passes attempted. Can you tell me how many passes were attempted over 15 yards and how many were in the 1-15 yd range? Thanks bro and this is really great work. And while he's at it, maybe he can get you a ham sandwich too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonramz Posted November 13, 2013 Author Share Posted November 13, 2013 Nice job. Did you do this using the all-22? I did... tried to get a start w/ the regular broadcast, but just isn't possible In that case we should just play backyard football and in the huddle, EJ should say, ok guys just get open. .. haha, a lot of teams run all-curls well (saints are excellent at it)... we are just not one of them Nice work Jon. I had a tough time deciphering your notes re. the distance of the passes attempted. Can you tell me how many passes were attempted over 15 yards and how many were in the 1-15 yd range? Thanks bro and this is really great work. Sorry I did not record the "air yards" on any of the passes, but I can tell you that the vast majority were under 15 yards (prob 85% if I guessed off the top of my head). If I do it again, I'll try and record that info. Nickelcitybills.com does a chart like that I believe. this is good - thanks Bookmarked. Nice job! thanks guys, appreciate it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfanfrom83 Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 Damn man awesome job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 And while he's at it, maybe he can get you a ham sandwich too. Now you're talkin' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l< j Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 Sorry I did not record the "air yards" on any of the passes, but I can tell you that the vast majority were under 15 yards (prob 85% if I guessed off the top of my head). If I do it again, I'll try and record that info. Nickelcitybills.com does a chart like that I believe. This is what he is referring to: http://nickelcitybills.com/2013/11/12/ej-manuels-return-to-action-in-pittsburgh/ Great work with the charts! kj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 Great job man! Thanks for putting in the time and effort! CBF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 Jon - you were pretty close. 98% were 10 yds or less. It's worse than I thought. Look at the friggin' incompletions under 10 yds.....ouch....there's more red on that screen than a Jaws Part 12 movie set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 (edited) Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh holy crap this is uhhhhhh uhhhesome Edited November 13, 2013 by jboyst62 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsClinton Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 Amazing. Depressing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 What are the notes at the top of most of the plays. Can you go through the order of each. I have an idea, but on some I see 3-10 and 1-10, so I assumed first down. But then some have 3-10, then 2-5. Just trying to see which ones where good and bad. Mostly to see if it is just my eye thinking that our passes from behind center are more effective, or if it is truth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 Thats funny, I tried to find a similar chart about the Bills drives during the Steelers game and this is what was there.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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