Gary M Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 They still don't get it!!!!! http://finance.yahoo.com/news/fast-food-chains-costing-taxpayers-173510741.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 They still don't get it!!!!! http://finance.yahoo...-173510741.html Who doesn't get what??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 Who doesn't get what??? You answered your own question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 The thing is, people not making ends meet WILL get assistance. That is not going away, like it or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary M Posted October 23, 2013 Author Share Posted October 23, 2013 The thing is, people not making ends meet WILL get assistance. That is not going away, like it or not. Take away the crutch and they just might surprise you!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 This is somehow Bush's, Romney's, Cheney's Reagan's and Boehner's fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdog1960 Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 this is corporate welfare, plain and simple. i started an entire thread on this: a living, minimum wage versus welfare. the actual numbers make it all the more compelling. increasing the minimum wage will lower govt subsidies and costs and increase tax revenues. the first part is what yall cons are always squaking about, non? what's uniquely wrong with cutting gov't spending via this mechanism? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjamie12 Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 this is corporate welfare, plain and simple. i started an entire thread on this: a living, minimum wage versus welfare. the actual numbers make it all the more compelling. increasing the minimum wage will lower govt subsidies and costs and increase tax revenues. the first part is what yall cons are always squaking about, non? what's uniquely wrong with cutting gov't spending via this mechanism? The part that you never seem to understand is that the 'wacko cons' on this board have NEVER argued that the reason NOT to increase the minimum wage is so that companies will show a better profit margin. Until you try to fully understand why folks who are against a minimum wage increase are saying what they're saying, you and anyone having a discussion with you will continue to feel like you're each pounding your head against the wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary M Posted October 23, 2013 Author Share Posted October 23, 2013 The part that you never seem to understand is that the 'wacko cons' on this board have NEVER argued that the reason NOT to increase the minimum wage is so that companies will show a better profit margin. Until you try to fully understand why folks who are against a minimum wage increase are saying what they're saying, you and anyone having a discussion with you will continue to feel like you're each pounding your head against the wall. So where does the extra cost of raising the wage come from? It sure as heck won't be from profits. http://finance.yahoo.com/news/mcdonald%E2%80%99s-new--dollar-menu--goes-up-to--5-144930006.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
....lybob Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 So where does the extra cost of raising the wage come from? It sure as heck won't be from profits. http://finance.yahoo...-144930006.html You're right we have to limit CEO pay to the historic 20x the average workers pay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 Take away the crutch and they just might surprise you!!!! And stop giving out a crutch with every Happy Meal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 You're right we have to limit CEO pay to the historic 20x the average workers pay. LOL. right on cue....................................how dare a private company decide how much a CEO gets ? What about fairness ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjamie12 Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 You're right we have to limit CEO pay to the historic 20x the average workers pay. Who would this benefit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
....lybob Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 LOL. right on cue....................................how dare a private company decide how much a CEO gets ? What about fairness ? they can decide any pay they like all the way up to 20x the average worker salary- I will also allow the stockholders to voluntarily tip them, am I not merciful Who would this benefit? The world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdog1960 Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 The part that you never seem to understand is that the 'wacko cons' on this board have NEVER argued that the reason NOT to increase the minimum wage is so that companies will show a better profit margin. Until you try to fully understand why folks who are against a minimum wage increase are saying what they're saying, you and anyone having a discussion with you will continue to feel like you're each pounding your head against the wall. the double negative has confused me. you're saying that the profit motivation is enough to warrant the sub living wage or you're not? either way, increasing the minimum wage may well increase the cost of goods (especially cheap goods like pink slime burgers). but those costs will be spread over the populace (perhaps even more concentrated on lower wage earners) so it amounts to a flat tax. and if less is spent on welfare because of this. taxes in general can decrease or require less of an increase. isn't that exactly what the repubs want? why the obstructionism? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 the double negative has confused me. you're saying that the profit motivation is enough to warrant the sub living wage or you're not? either way, increasing the minimum wage may well increase the cost of goods (especially cheap goods like pink slime burgers). but those costs will be spread over the populace (perhaps even more concentrated on lower wage earners) so it amounts to a flat tax. and if less is spent on welfare because of this. taxes in general can decrease or require less of an increase. isn't that exactly what the repubs want? why the obstructionism? Take away the government assistance. Then people will demand they get paid more and market forces will cause that to happen. Then the cost of the burger goes up for those that choose to eat that **** on a regular basis and my taxes go down. I like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjamie12 Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 the double negative has confused me. you're saying that the profit motivation is enough to warrant the sub living wage or you're not? either way, increasing the minimum wage may well increase the cost of goods (especially cheap goods like pink slime burgers). but those costs will be spread over the populace (perhaps even more concentrated on lower wage earners) so it amounts to a flat tax. and if less is spent on welfare because of this. taxes in general can decrease or require less of an increase. isn't that exactly what the repubs want? why the obstructionism? No. What I'm saying is that 'Repubs' are NOT arguing that we should keep min. wage where it is so that companies can make more money. They're concerned that this would actually lead to less people being employed. Hurting the very people you're trying to help. they can decide any pay they like all the way up to 20x the average worker salary- I will also allow the stockholders to voluntarily tip them, am I not merciful The world In what way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
....lybob Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 In what way? In every way! if you disagree please have a comprehensive list of ways it wouldn't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 In every way! if you disagree please have a comprehensive list of ways it wouldn't "Please list in detail all the ways in which you disagree with my vague over-generalized opinion." Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 In every way! if you disagree please have a comprehensive list of ways it wouldn't Who sets CEO pay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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