POTUS: Russia is not Playing the US on Syria

[DC Tom]

And if Obama had said !@#$k off to the Russian offer and lobbed a bunch of cruise missiles into Damascus for five days, what would you be saying about his policy then?

 

I'd be saying that the foreign policy of this administration (and not just on Syria) is an incoherent ****-as "policy" of being tough without being responsible for your actions or lack thereof, and he's trying to use the military to bail out his lack of a policy.

[B-Man]

LOL....Red Line Spaghetti:“We’ve never said it was a hard and fast deadline," said State Dept. spokesman.................buffoonery

 

 

http://www.latimes.com/world/worldnow/la-fg-wn-us-syria-chemical-weapons-plan-20130918,0,1445199.story

U.S. backs off deadline for Syria to submit chemical weapons list

 

 

 

 

Assad calm, comfortable and clearly delusional in Fox News interview

 

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/09/18/assad-calm-comfortable-and-clearly-delusional-in-fox-news-interview/?intcmp=HPBucket#ixzz2fLXsCkGG

 

 

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[meazza]

LOL....Red Line Spaghetti:“We’ve never said it was a hard and fast deadline," said State Dept. spokesman.................buffoonery

 

 

http://www.latimes.c...0,1445199.story

U.S. backs off deadline for Syria to submit chemical weapons list

 

 

 

 

Again all part of Obama's plan.

 

Haven't you been following?

[B-Man]

Heh............................good one Pat.

 

 

 

 

 

Pat Sajak @patsajak

 

Putin: "I'd like to buy a vowel." Sajak: "Only an O left." Putin: "Never mind. I already own that one."

 

about 2 hours ago

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Again all part of Obama's plan.

 

Haven't you been following?

 

Smrtist Prezadant evah

[B-Man]

How's that smart diplomacy working out for ya ?: L.A. Times: Putin says he can’t guarantee Syria will turn over chemical weapons.

 

 

WASHINGTON POST: Syria crisis reveals uneasy relationship between Obama, nation’s military leaders.

 

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[meazza]

http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/10/02/syrian-regime-hits-school-with-vacuum-bombs-designed-to-kill-civilians

 

 

Thank god they stopped using chemical weapons

 

Edited October 2, 2013 by meazza

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http://news.national...-kill-civilians

 

 

Thank god they stopped using chemical weapons

 

 

Syria, that is like so last season

[meazza]

Thank God they are destroying those chemical weapon stockpiles

 

http://news.national...um-bomb-attack/

 

The first day of school in Syria was a bloody one. In Raqqa, about 100 miles east of Aleppo, 14 students died when their school was hit by a Syrian government airstrike. Witnesses say that fuel-air weapons, also called “vacuum bombs” were used. This artillery takes oxygen from the surrounding air to generate an intense, high-temperature explosion and can create a powerful blast wave.

 

Inspectors from the Office for the Prevention of Chemical Weapons (OPCW), which is working to eliminate Syria’s lethal stockpiles after the attacks on eastern Damascus in August, won’t be removing these fuel-air weapons. Classed as “conventional” despite their ability to cause extensive destruction over a wide area, the strength of the fuel-air weapon used in Raqqa was such that it was able throw bodies against the wall and tear off limbs.

 

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The school was located in a rural area, away from military buildings or installations, suggesting that the educational facility was specifically targeted. The school’s front wall is heavily marked by shrapnel, and the roof is caving in from previous attacks. In the months before school began, several hundreds Syrians whose homes had been destroyed in the fighting had taken shelter there.

 

Mind you if this was Israel we'd have angry leftists protesting till they were blue in the face.

Edited October 16, 2013 by meazza

[Koko78]

Thank God they are destroying those chemical weapon stockpiles

 

http://news.national...um-bomb-attack/

 

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Mind you if this was Israel we'd have angry leftists protesting till they were blue in the face.

 

That's not your red line; someone else drew that.

[B-Man]

Obama Logic: Dictators Don’t Kill People, Chemical Weapons Do

 

According to today’s Washington Post headline: “Syria has destroyed chemical weapons facilities, international inspectors say.” Should this be cause for celebration?

 

The Syrian civil war is a strategic, humanitarian, and arms-control problem for the United States. The Obama administration has chosen to focus only on the arms-control aspect of the problem.

 

The Assad regime is Iran’s best friend in the world. Iran has invested heavily in protecting Assad and if he retains power, the influence of Iran’s Khamenei regime will grow. Russian president Vladimir Putin also has exerted himself for Assad and will benefit if Assad defeats the Syrian rebels.

 

The death toll in Syria is over 100,000. Estimates put the displaced persons within Syria at over 4 million and the refugees who have fled the country at over 2 million. The latter are straining resources in Jordan, Turkey, and Lebanon and could create political disruptions there. In the last few days, the news media have been reporting that polio is beginning to spread among Syrian children.

 

Finally, the Assad regime appears to have violated the 1925 Geneva Protocol by using poison gas against its own people.

 

The Obama administration has effectively rewarded Assad for violating the Geneva Protocol. Having declared long ago that Assad “must go,” President Obama dropped that demand as soon as he accused Assad of using poison gas. Instead, he effectively consented not to challenge Assad’s retention of power so long as Assad agrees to give up the Syrian chemical-weapons arsenal. This is a small price for Assad to pay for an enormously important change in U.S. policy.

 

Assad looks brilliant. The Syrian rebels feel abandoned. Khamenei and Putin are reaping dividends. Dictators around the world are seeing the benefits of Assad’s use of chemical weapons. And presumably President Obama is happy that Syria’s current participation in chemical-weapons disarmament gives him an excuse to take no other action, not even to provide aid to some of the rebels.

 

 

One commentator said that what President Obama has done is like telling a man who has committed murder with a knife that you’ll let him go free if he hands in the knife.

 

 

 

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[Koko78]

One commentator said that what President Obama has done is like telling a man who has committed murder with a knife that you’ll let him go free if he hands in the knife.

 

I think the more appropriate analogy is that you tell the man who has committed a murder with a gun that he will go free if he hands over the gun... and don't worry about the 5 other murders by knife.

[DC Tom]

I think the more appropriate analogy is that you tell the man who has committed a murder with a gun that he will go free if he hands over the gun... and don't worry about the 5 other murders by knife.

 

Or telling the man who committed murder with a knife that if he commits murder with a gun he'll be really sorry...then when he uses a gun tells him "That's it! You're going to jail...maybe...I'm thinking about it...eh, this other guy says you'll give up your gun, so I'm just going to take the credit for taking it from you. But keep the knife."

[Joe Miner]

If the GOP hadn't shut down the government, Obama would have had this fixed by now.

[Koko78]

If the GOP hadn't shut down the government, Obama would have had this fixed by now.

 

Damn that Ted Cruz. I don't know how that man sleeps and night with the blood of over 100,000 Syrian deaths on his hands.

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If the GOP hadn't shut down the government, Obama would have had this fixed by now.

[Azalin]

Damn that Ted Cruz. I don't know how that man sleeps and night with the blood of over 100,000 Syrian deaths on his hands.

Mitt Romney has a horse.

[drinkTHEkoolaid]

If the GOP hadn't shut down the government, Obama would have had this fixed by now.

 

If harry Reid and the senate dems could just put together a budget...

[B-Man]

 

Lean forward, Israel, like the rest of us

 

 

Earlier this week three were unconfirmed reports of a very large explosion near the Syrian city of Latakia.

 

There was relatively little media coverage to start, almost all from Israeli newspapers citing social media accounts.

 

As in all these cases, Israeli officials were silent as to whodunit. That’s the dance that takes place to avoid a major war.

 

Israel destroys game-changing weapons on their way to Hezbollah, Syria pretends it’s not sure what happened, and everyone goes along with a major confrontation. So long as Israel doesn’t try to shift the balance of power within Syria and focuses on weapons headed to Hezbollah, Assad is under limited pressure to react.

 

But not for the first time anonymous U.S. officials have told multiple U.S. media outlets that Israel was behind it.

 

 

 

Which raises the question, why the leaks?

[Who is Yuri?]

Why are chemical weapons the red line?

 

Because we could destroy their entire population through chemical, nuclear, or conventional means. Because our capabilities our so vastly superior that it isn't a fair fight. The red line isn't to protect us. It's to protect them from the US annihilating them. We roped Russia into it, because they'd throw a hissy fit if we annihilated their close partner.

 

It's like when a woman hits you as hard as she can, but it barely hurts. You could kill her with your bare hands, but you don't, because of the red line.