BillsWatch Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Byrd is a lock when he shows up. Lock IF he is not traded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 (edited) Fail. I really do see your point. You clarified it really well. But it just simply is not possible. You want me to ignore his stats to play along. But in this game of football, besides being a good character and bla bla, stats is all you have to base talent on. I'm not being a homer in denying his stats. I never said they were megatron stats, nevertheless, they are still strong for the ineffective system he played for 3 years. (bad qb bad coach, etc.) Actually you may be more of a homer in denying his stats. Think about that. I'm out for now. Good night yall!!! Well, I wasn't all that impressed by the 3 straight 1,000 seasons, until I realized that only Roddy White accomplished the same thing over the same span of time. But, I think that feat is that's mostly a testament to Stevie's his endurance and durability, two factors that ought not be overlooked, to be sure! But, this myth that it was an "ineffective" system, that's a bunch of bull. I know that around here you're a moron unless you subscribe to the theory that Fitz is/was King ****head, but he was the best quarterback we had in a decade. Period. And to say that Chan's system was ineffective when you're arguing in favor of Stevie's accomplishments is a direct contradiction. As Reddog has said over and over, it takes two to tang. The "Chan couldn't coach" argument belongs in Spiller conversations, not these. Stevie didn't get three straight 1,000 seasons IN SPITE of Chan, he got them BECAUSE of Chan: my original argument. Edited August 13, 2013 by The Big Cat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webster Guy Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 He has shown skills every preseason, just hasnt been able to make the regular season and even when i season was over last year Chan still wouldnt play him over Ruvell Martin. Yes that was frustrating as hell last year. Watching Ruvell and Brad Smith at WR when there is no shot for playoffs left, and Easley who desperately needs game experience just sitting on the sidelines. If I am the GM or owner I fix that shortsighted bull **** in two seconds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Yes that was frustrating as hell last year. Watching Ruvell and Brad Smith at WR when there is no shot for playoffs left, and Easley who desperately needs game experience just sitting on the sidelines. If I am the GM or owner I fix that shortsighted bull **** in two seconds. But what happened after the wing-eating contest? Didn't he have like organ issues?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Yes that was frustrating as hell last year. Watching Ruvell and Brad Smith at WR when there is no shot for playoffs left, and Easley who desperately needs game experience just sitting on the sidelines. If I am the GM or owner I fix that shortsighted bull **** in two seconds. That's not the GM's job, and it's only the job of a meddlesome owner. You trust your coaches to do what's best, until you reach the point you don't -- and then you fire them. No situation in which a GM or owner are telling the coach what to do is tenable for any length of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 TJ Graham will not play on Friday against the Vikings. More opportunities for Easley, Rogers, et al. to show their stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clippers of Nfl Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Well, I wasn't all that impressed by the 3 straight 1,000 seasons, until I realized that only Roddy White accomplished the same thing over the same span of time. But, I think that feat is that's mostly a testament to Stevie's his endurance and durability, two factors that ought not be overlooked, to be sure! But, this myth that it was an "ineffective" system, that's a bunch of bull. I know that around here you're a moron unless you subscribe to the theory that Fitz is/was King ****head, but he was the best quarterback we had in a decade. Period. And to say that Chan's system was ineffective when you're arguing in favor of Stevie's accomplishments is a direct contradiction. As Reddog has said over and over, it takes two to tang. The "Chan couldn't coach" argument belongs in Spiller conversations, not these. Stevie didn't get three straight 1,000 seasons IN SPITE of Chan, he got them BECAUSE of Chan: my original argument. 2 more points to why he is airtight lock for a roster spot. By your own admission. Lol. Regarding ineffective play. I just didnt like Chan towards the end. Baby playing Cj really angered me last season. The most explosive weapon on the team and chan babysat him was really hard to watch. We already sucked badly as a franchise last year, might as well please the fans with explosive Cj. But no, he took him out play after play. Chan had flashes of being a genius. But at the end of the day, he was an ineffective coach. His record proves it. Ditto for Fitz. Fitz had flashes of being a great qb. But at the end, he is a bad qb in my book. That's saying a lot. I was a Fitz supporter for a long long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 2 more points to why he is airtight lock for a roster spot. By your own admission. Lol. Regarding ineffective play. I just didnt like Chan towards the end. Baby playing Cj really angered me last season. The most explosive weapon on the team and chan babysat him was really hard to watch. We already sucked badly as a franchise last year, might as well please the fans with explosive Cj. But no, he took him out play after play. Chan had flashes of being a genius. But at the end of the day, he was an ineffective coach. His record proves it. Ditto for Fitz. Fitz had flashes of being a great qb. But at the end, he is a bad qb in my book. That's saying a lot. I was a Fitz supporter for a long long time. We both agree that it was time for both Chan and Fitz to go. But I don't agree that Stevie's production was in spite of either of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endless Ike Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Don't worry, his knee will explode any minute now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoName Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 im sure you remember my post about sj slot wr. I said hes gone in two years "if" rogers is any good. Now w one preseason game and 7 catches Easley is the new super star. But isn't it due to tuel throwing him almost every pass when he was on the field? he caught 7 balls for a very sj like 13 yards a catch. before this game he was considered a cut by most now hes a lock for the bills or some nfl team. Hes not shown anything yet except the ability to catch perfectly thrown passes. But yes SJ did get most of the targets from fitz, its not hard to get a 1000 yards in a season when you get 10+ chances a game to catch a football. I think a lot of posters don't ever look up the height and weight of the players. someone else here said tj reminds them of Donald jones. WTF? ones huge and has marginal speed, the others small light and has exceptional speed. TJ has lee evans speed but needs another season to show if he can handle being a "two". hes bigger than Goodwin who will be the 3 or 4 for this team. I saw Goodwin as a replacement for TJ but hes apparently had a great preseason ( in practice anyway) so maybe that's why hes a starter so far. No matter how good Goodwin is he'll never start as a 1 or 2, hes too small. As a 2 TJ barely has the size so it depends on his hands. Woods is about the smallest you want as a starter at 190 and 6'1 hes like peerless price. I think Desean Jackson would have something to say about your post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 (edited) Bottom line. Stevie has a higher probability of making the roster than ANY other WR on the team. He is the #1 WR on the team, has multiple consecutive seasons of RESULTS to support it, is extremely quick, is ALWAYS open, elusive off of the line, has great hands and is physical and elusive enough to beat the press. He's a reputable locker room presence and is a very coachable player by all accounts. The new coaches have seen him in practice and still there he sits atop the depth chart. LOCK as much of a lock as anyone can be. Edited August 13, 2013 by over 20 years of fanhood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan3434 Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 I have been high on this guy ever since we took him, but for the second preseason game in a row now he's lead our receiving corps on the stat sheet. Gonna make it real tough to cut him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 Yeah, I have been too and said all off season he would be a standout in the preseason and make the squad. So far, he has done just that and is going to be hard not to keep and he has gone out and played like he belongs and should get playing time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stony Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 Yeah, I have been too and said all off season he would be a standout in the preseason and make the squad. So far, he has done just that and is going to be hard not to keep and he has gone out and played like he belongs and should get playing time. Agreed. I think Da'Rick is PS material or gone altogether. This will be quite the interesting couple of weeks if he puts in another solid performance in the "all important" game 3 of preseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donald Duck Posted August 17, 2013 Author Share Posted August 17, 2013 Yeah, I have been too and said all off season he would be a standout in the preseason and make the squad. So far, he has done just that and is going to be hard not to keep and he has gone out and played like he belongs and should get playing time. Top WR two weeks in a row.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumbalaya Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 By the way after his last catch Marcus was excellent on several blocks when the Bills ran well to his side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 How about we get rid of Brad Smith..........Keep SJ, Goodwin, Woods, Hogan, Rogers, Easley, and TJ (and if we can only keep 6, I think I can let TJ go for some reason before the other guys.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 let Da'rick go b4 TJ IMO..................undrafted for a reason he has this huge legend working for some reason though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 You're probably right. I think I'm buying into the legend. And, having TJ and Goodwin would be good because one of them is bound to be hurt at any given time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 You're probably right. I think I'm buying into the legend. And, having TJ and Goodwin would be good because one of them is bound to be hurt at any given time. FWIW, I'm guessing Marquis didn't miss any games to injury in 4 years at Texas because he played in 49 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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