Gene Frenkle Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 Hey, don't lump me in with all the other rightys. I don't question global warming, global cooling, climate change because Bill Nye the Science Guy says it's true. And I think we both know the only truths in this world are found from Bill Nye and Season 1 of "Zoom." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzlmZa20MLU Such a typical response from you. Perhaps I'll create an LABillz bot to auto-generate LABillz-worthy responses. It might even pass the Turing Test if I can somehow make it less one dimensional than the real thing. Quite the challenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 Well, it is a circle jerk after all... Yes it is, but it's usually a one man circle jerk when you show up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 Not a righty, sorry. So there are no 0.01%ers that are lefty? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 Such a typical response from you. Perhaps I'll create an LABillz bot to auto-generate LABillz-worthy responses. It might even pass the Turing Test if I can somehow make it less one dimensional than the real thing. Quite the challenge. Don't you find it a waste of time to argue on behalf of global warming, global cooling, climate change when the scientists you cite as authorities admitted their research is manufactured and flawed? But I'm the drone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 Don't you find it a waste of time to argue on behalf of global warming, global cooling, climate change when the scientists you cite as authorities admitted their research is manufactured and flawed? But I'm the drone. I didn't realize you are a climate scientist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 I didn't realize you are a climate scientist. I'm not. But I watch Bill Nye. So I'm as close to being a climate scientist as Gene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 (edited) I'm not. But I watch Bill Nye. So I'm as close to being a climate scientist as Gene. Yeah but you're both Lay men. Only ordained members of the Clergy are allowed to interpret the Scriptures. Why can't just get back in line and believe what you're told to believe like brother Gene. I tell you, this Gutennberg press thing is an agent of the devil Letting people read the scriptures and draw their own conclusions is bad for business Edited April 30, 2013 by /dev/null Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 Why can't just get back in line and believe what you're told to believe like brother Gene. Ya gotta hand it to Gene.He believes in global warming, global cooling, climate change because of the all the scientific data on the subject, but when Tom says it's that very data that makes him not believe, Gene's response is "Oh, I didn't know you were a climate scientist." But I'm the autobot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMadCap Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 (edited) Oh for the love of Jeebus, not this again! But, since this a subject that gets more political argument than scientific, I suppose I'll play along for a very SHORT time: 1.Carbon dioxide WILL and DOES absorb in the infrared portion of the EM spectrum. This is an indisputable fact of the physical and chemical world. 2. There is no way to definitively prove or disprove anthropogenic effect upon atmospheric CO2, simply because we haven't been studying it long enough. 3. We do not have a good understanding of the natural feedback mechanisms for CO2, and do not know their limits, e.g., the role of the oceans as a sink for carbonate. All of this equates to we don’t know if or how much we are affecting the environment. Anyone tells you different, then DC Tom has a nametag for you. Also, you cannot talk about climate change and separate increasing temperature and global cooling, since they are absolutely linked. Google Thermohaline Circulation and learn about the connections between CO2 – Air Temperature – ice formation/melting– salinity – Global weather patterns if you want to have meaningful discussions on this subject. Anything else is just political BS… Edited April 30, 2013 by TheMadCap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Frenkle Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 (edited) Ya gotta hand it to Gene.He believes in global warming, global cooling, climate change because of the all the scientific data on the subject, but when Tom says it's that very data that makes him not believe, Gene's response is "Oh, I didn't know you were a climate scientist." But I'm the autobot. Please show me the part where I "believe" in global warming, global cooling, climate change. Edited April 30, 2013 by Gene Frenkle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 Sad news for green lobby: Natural gas is even cleaner than we thought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Frenkle Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 I'm not. But I watch Bill Nye. So I'm as close to being a climate scientist as Gene. Exactly. But you are completely sure it's all BS. Which is my point. Sad news for green lobby: Natural gas is even cleaner than we thought That's really good new, actually. Natural gas is a wonderful alternative to coal or oil. I'm also a pro nuclear/pro-fracking looney lib too. Lemming retards... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 Please show me the part where I "believe" in global warming, global cooling, climate change. Oh, so you think it's all bullschitt, too? Nice to see we agree on something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Frenkle Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 Oh for the love of Jeebus, not this again! But, since this a subject that gets more political argument than scientific, I suppose I'll play along for a very SHORT time: 1.Carbon dioxide WILL and DOES absorb in the infrared portion of the EM spectrum. This is an indisputable fact of the physical and chemical world. 2. There is no way to definitively prove or disprove anthropogenic effect upon atmospheric CO2, simply because we haven't been studying it long enough. 3. We do not have a good understanding of the natural feedback mechanisms for CO2, and do not know their limits, e.g., the role of the oceans as a sink for carbonate. All of this equates to we don’t know if or how much we are affecting the environment. Anyone tells you different, then DC Tom has a nametag for you. Also, you cannot talk about climate change and separate increasing temperature and global cooling, since they are absolutely linked. Google Thermohaline Circulation and learn about the connections between CO2 – Air Temperature – ice formation/melting– salinity – Global weather patterns if you want to have meaningful discussions on this subject. Anything else is just political BS… But, but, but...global warming is a FRAUD!!! Oh, so you think it's all bullschitt, too? Nice to see we agree on something. No, dipshit, I'm saying I don't know. Neither do you, so shut your face and let it play out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 No, dipshit, I'm saying I don't know. Neither do you, so shut your face and let it play out. Conner thinks you're scientifically illiterate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 But, but, but...global warming is a FRAUD!!! No, dipshit, I'm saying I don't know. Neither do you, so shut your face and let it play out. So you saying you don't know puts you right square in the middle of the circle jerk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 But, but, but...global warming is a FRAUD!!! No, dipshit, I'm saying I don't know. Neither do you, so shut your face and let it play out. So you're saying we shouldn't do anything? Fine, but I stand with Bill Nye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Frenkle Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 Conner thinks you're scientifically illiterate. Chad Kroeger thinks you give Canada a bad name. So you saying you don't know puts you right square in the middle of the circle jerk. Sure it does, buddy, sure it does. Nothing but healthy skepticism every time this topic comes up, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azalin Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 Neither do you, so shut your face and let it play out. let what play out.....legislation and policy intended to restrict our use of fossil fuels by making them so expensive as to be impractical to use, in order to force us to adopt more expensive alternatives when the science behind the movement is either flawed or incomplete? if it was simply a matter of waiting for science to gain a more complete understanding before we reacted by adapting a national energy policy based on that science, then people might be more content to 'let it play out'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Frenkle Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 There are other reasons to legislate against fossil fuels IMO, natural gas excluded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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