Boston Marathon Conspiracy?

[bowery4]

The thing that I have not seen is wtf were these guys doing at MIT? It seems most stories start with them killing the MIT officer and then they're off to the races...........Well, when you are most wanted, wouldn't you be laying low instead of killing cops?

WTF were they still in Boston for? Ask questions, read a lot. even the nut jobs have some info. This story is weird and doesn't smell right. I don't endorse the NYTs or Infowars/Alex Jones what so ever but here are a couple of links with interesting information/ opinions.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/29/opinion/sunday/terrorist-plots-helped-along-by-the-fbi.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

http://www.infowars.com/fbi-ignores-men-with-backpacks-at-scene-of-boston-bombings/

http://www.infowars.com/contractors-at-boston-marathon-stood-near-bomb-left-before-detonation/

"Questions That Must be Answered

Several questions must be answered by the FBI, leading the investigation on behalf of we, the American people. The first question is who these men were, with large, black bags in the direct vicinity of where a bomb would detonate, moving away before the blast, and appearing directly across the road afterward. Who hired them and what was their function? Why were they moving amongst the crowd in a semi-covert fashion when all other public servants present were wearing proper uniforms and clearly identified? Did police, firefighters, event organizers, and medics know these men were present and what they were doing?

Why did it appear that the FBI was fully aware of their presence, and in fact working with them, specifically with what looks like a bomb squad unit? Were these contractors specialists in explosives, and if so, what is the significance that at least two of them were spotted just meters from where the blast occurred?"

Crazies writing crazy stuff, I know but it is intriguing and some of the questions IMHO do have some merit.

[John in Jax]

Have been following this story very closely this past week, and yes, there are a LOT of perplexing, unanswered questions. I am sort of amazed at how 99% of the public seems to have no doubt whatsoever that these brothers are 100% guilty, even though NO REAL HARD EVIDENCE has been seen or produced (by the feds). Sure, they have told us a lot of things, but personally, I'd like to see the proof. Maybe if suspect #2 lives, and goes to trial, then we'll see. But for now, I'll go with the ole "innocent until proven guilty" paradigm.

[bowery4]

Have been following this story very closely this past week, and yes, there are a LOT of perplexing, unanswered questions. I am sort of amazed at how 99% of the public seems to have no doubt whatsoever that these brothers are 100% guilty, even though NO REAL HARD EVIDENCE has been seen or produced (by the feds). Sure, they have told us a lot of things, but personally, I'd like to see the proof. Maybe if suspect #2 lives, and goes to trial, then we'll see. But for now, I'll go with the ole "innocent until proven guilty" paradigm.

I agree, but doubt we will ever know much of what really happened. I wouldn't be real surprised if the teenager/alleged murderer dies still. I hate that they have taken away his rights, as he is a citizen (and on American soil to boot). It is a strange way to approach a situation where the presumption of innocence is supposed to be a prisoner's right. The terrorism game is being played out yet again in the legal system and by doing that they might just be effing up the case against him. At the very least they are opening the door to appeals, if he lives and is convicted.

One could see this as a plot to use drones and issue marshal law whenever they please, if your political leanings have you have you leaning that way. This could prove to be the test run... I don't want to think that, I personally WANT to think that it isn't THAT corrupt yet in the US. But I do smell rotten fish. It is all, a really crazy event and story. But what has that got to do with Waco and the price of gold. lol.

[meazza]

Have been following this story very closely this past week, and yes, there are a LOT of perplexing, unanswered questions. I am sort of amazed at how 99% of the public seems to have no doubt whatsoever that these brothers are 100% guilty, even though NO REAL HARD EVIDENCE has been seen or produced (by the feds). Sure, they have told us a lot of things, but personally, I'd like to see the proof. Maybe if suspect #2 lives, and goes to trial, then we'll see. But for now, I'll go with the ole "innocent until proven guilty" paradigm.

 

You mean aside from the fact that they were in a shootout with police?

 

I get it. This is a conspiracy so the US could invade Chechnya.

[bowery4]

You mean aside from the fact that they were allegedly in a 2 shootouts with police?

 

I get it. This is a conspiracy so the US could invade Chechnya (which wouldn't make sense, since neither of them were born there).

Please, question authority and read more. It is our duty as citizens.

Edited April 21, 2013 by bowery4

[meazza]

Please, question authority and read more. It is our duty as citizens.

 

Just because I refuse to fall in conspiracy trap doesn't mean I don't question authority.

 

Share your David Icke/Alex Jones and Rense bull **** elsewhere.

[bowery4]

Just because I refuse to fall in conspiracy trap doesn't mean I don't question authority.

 

Share your David Icke/Alex Jones and Rense bull **** elsewhere.

 

Hey, I said I generally don't read or like either of my sourced links in my post . I just find it a bit compelling the information and opinions that they had in this particular case. I really wouldn't think that I am much on conspiracy theories either and I was living less than 1/2 a mile away from WTC on 9/11 and saw some seemly weird stuff. I think it is within the discussion to share my links (as they are worth a look) and thoughts here, why did it piss you off enough to say to post that stuff elsewhere? I am a board member here and we were having a discussion. I will post information that seems pertinent if I want to.

[Beerball]

Have been following this story very closely this past week, and yes, there are a LOT of perplexing, unanswered questions. I am sort of amazed at how 99% of the public seems to have no doubt whatsoever that these brothers are 100% guilty, even though NO REAL HARD EVIDENCE has been seen or produced (by the feds). Sure, they have told us a lot of things, but personally, I'd like to see the proof. Maybe if suspect #2 lives, and goes to trial, then we'll see. But for now, I'll go with the ole "innocent until proven guilty" paradigm.

What about one of them being picked out of a photo 'lineup' by one of the victims who saw him place the backpack?

[John in Jax]

You mean aside from the fact that they were in a shootout with police?

 

Should be rather easy to come up with some police car dash-cam video or show the guns they had (in the shootout) and show where they got the guns from, right? I'm not saying that I think they're innocent, but I am saying to show me more evidence instead of just "we say so.".

 

Anybody remember Richard Jewell's nightmare? If you don't. Google him. The "authorities" are not infallible.

 

What about one of them being picked out of a photo 'lineup' by one of the victims who saw him place the backpack?

 

Again, I'm not saying they're innocent or that there's some big conspiracy, but statistically & in reality, eyewitness testimony is usually the least reliable evidence vs. say hard forensic evidence or even cumulative circumstantial evidence.

[Maury Ballstein]

Should be rather easy to come up with some police car dash-cam video or show the guns they had (in the shootout) and show where they got the guns from, right? I'm not saying that I think they're innocent, but I am saying to show me more evidence instead of just "we say so.".

 

Anybody remember Richard Jewell's nightmare? If you don't. Google him. The "authorities" are not infallible.

 

 

you are joking right? the two shootouts with police, the carjacked man who stated they advised him they were the boston bombers, the bloody 19 year old hiding in someones boat (who alledgedly fired shots from boat), THE VIDEO THAT SHOWS THEM WITH BACKPACKS AT THE SCENE, the limbless guy who fingered them out as the guilty party as he woke from his hospital bed, the older brothers ties to Islam and youtube playlist with terrorism?

 

cut it out, this conspiracy stuff is straight foolish. what more do you possibly need to see?

Edited April 21, 2013 by Ryan L Billz

[Beerball]

Should be rather easy to come up with some police car dash-cam video or show the guns they had (in the shootout) and show where they got the guns from, right? I'm not saying that I think they're innocent, but I am saying to show me more evidence instead of just "we say so.".

 

Anybody remember Richard Jewell's nightmare? If you don't. Google him. The "authorities" are not infallible.

 

 

 

Again, I'm not saying they're innocent or that there's some big conspiracy, but statistically & in reality, eyewitness testimony is usually the least reliable evidence vs. say hard forensic evidence or even cumulative circumstantial evidence.

You do understand that the very first thing this guy did upon 'waking up' was ask for paper and pencil. You are aware of what he wrote? Yet you trivialize what he did an call him unreliable?

[Nanker]

Government "Plant's" story.

The first thing he did when he came round, woozy from medication, was to ask his brother, Chris, for some paper and a pen.

 

The words he wrote down helped crack open the biggest terrorism case in the US since the 9/11 atrocity and confirmed the suspicions of FBI agents searching videos from the scene.

 

An official told CNN: "When the bombs blow up, when most people are running away and victims were lying on the ground, the two suspects walk away pretty casually. They acted differently than everyone else."

 

The FBI showed Mr Bauman the images and he was able to pick out the man he had seen.

 

Within hours the FBI had released photographs of

Dzhokhar and Tamerlan Tsarnaev

. Tip-offs came pouring in immediately.

 

Now Bauman is on the long, painful road to recovery, after his son also lost his lower limbs from the bombing.

 

 

Now the guy's got to cope with life with a tattered body that this scum tagged him and his son with.

Apologies to the azzholes who don't believe him and wouldn't if Wolf Blitzer were interviewing him on camera for an hour beginning ten minutes before the explosions. No, the government did it. The CIA is pissed at BO because he's downplayed terrorism. Yeah, that's the ticket.

[NoSaint]

 

 

Should be rather easy to come up with some police car dash-cam video or show the guns they had (in the shootout) and show where they got the guns from, right? I'm not saying that I think they're innocent, but I am saying to show me more evidence instead of just "we say so.".

 

Anybody remember Richard Jewell's nightmare? If you don't. Google him. The "authorities" are not infallible.

 

 

 

Again, I'm not saying they're innocent or that there's some big conspiracy, but statistically & in reality, eyewitness testimony is usually the least reliable evidence vs. say hard forensic evidence or even cumulative circumstantial evidence.

 

Between the dead brother, the cars shot up, the 15 officers that had injuries treated, the dead cop they shot.... I don't imagine they will be terribly short on evidence of these shoot outs. Sometimes, especially when you aren't a juror, its ok to take common sense approaching the situation until proven otherwise.

[Chef Jim]

Have been following this story very closely this past week, and yes, there are a LOT of perplexing, unanswered questions. I am sort of amazed at how 99% of the public seems to have no doubt whatsoever that these brothers are 100% guilty, even though NO REAL HARD EVIDENCE has been seen or produced (by the feds). Sure, they have told us a lot of things, but personally, I'd like to see the proof. Maybe if suspect #2 lives, and goes to trial, then we'll see. But for now, I'll go with the ole "innocent until proven guilty" paradigm.

 

So it wasn't just two crazy brothers who for some reason learned to hate Americans what do you think it could possibly be?

[Justice]

I'm not feeling the conspiracy theories on this one. What I do take issue with is shutting down an entire city to find two kids. Practicing marshal law? I don't know, but that is a bit of overkill if you ask me.

 

Terrorists win whenever we change our way of life. We can't and must not let that happen.

[DC Tom]

I agree, but doubt we will ever know much of what really happened. I wouldn't be real surprised if the teenager/alleged murderer dies still. I hate that they have taken away his rights, as he is a citizen (and on American soil to boot). It is a strange way to approach a situation where the presumption of innocence is supposed to be a prisoner's right. The terrorism game is being played out yet again in the legal system and by doing that they might just be effing up the case against him. At the very least they are opening the door to appeals, if he lives and is convicted.

One could see this as a plot to use drones and issue marshal law whenever they please, if your political leanings have you have you leaning that way. This could prove to be the test run... I don't want to think that, I personally WANT to think that it isn't THAT corrupt yet in the US. But I do smell rotten fish. It is all, a really crazy event and story. But what has that got to do with Waco and the price of gold. lol.

 

"Taken away his rights?"

 

Name one that he's been stripped of.

[Chef Jim]

"Taken away his rights?"

 

Name one that he's been stripped of.

 

This whole "the government is taking our rights away!" thing is silly. I saw a news report recently talking about giving up rights for safety. They talked about the TSA screenings at airports now. Gee, I didn't know that speedy movement through an airport was a God given right. The TSA thing is a huge annoyance but not sure what rights I'm giving up.

[Kelly the Dog]

"Taken away his rights?"

 

Name one that he's been stripped of.

His Miranda rights?

[Erik]

I'm pretty sure that they have to preserve the evidence so the prospective grand jury members don't see it before a trial and have their mind made up before they see it in court. The ironic thing is that, in theory, this is done to protect the suspect so he has a better chance at a fair and balanced hearing. Yet the family members, conspiracy theorists, etc. are complaining about not seeing the evidence which could in turn hurt his chance at a fair and balanced hearing. Not too mention the fact that he hasn't even been charged yet. Does it really make sense to release evidence of a high-profile grand jury investigation to the public before the suspect is even charged?

[Donald Duck]

Sounds to me the younger suspect/brother was probably so weak and out of it from gunshot wounds its very possible he wouldn't have even known the miranda rights were being given to him.

 

Speculation on my part , but just goes to show the amount of influence an older sibling has have over a younger sibling.

[DC Tom]

His Miranda rights?

 

He actually still has the right to remain silent, and the right to an attorney - which is being provided for him, by the federal government.

 

And don't confuse the rights with the Miranda warning.

[Captain Hindsight]

I just don't see any conspiracy here at all. Somebody sees a Navy Seal Logo on a hat? Please. The SEALS fly around in helicopters that don't exist and have night vision goggles that cost more than a college education, but they were totally discovered by a camera in Boston by Paul freaking Watson. Yeah I buy that.

[Kelly the Dog]

He actually still has the right to remain silent, and the right to an attorney - which is being provided for him, by the federal government.

 

And don't confuse the rights with the Miranda warning.

I was just joking, but you're right. They're often called Miranda Rights but that is a misnomer, it's really the warning. And they didn't take away any of his rights.

 

I'm really not sure what I feel about the concept of interrogating him before giving him the rights. I just don't know or have read enough about the issue and the pros and cons of it. My first blush is to say it just adds grist to the conspiracy and foreign factions trying to kill Americans rather than does much good. But again, I really don't know and there may be more good than bad to do as they are doing. My uninformed opinion is just read him the damn rights and then interrogate him.

[bbb]

Hey, I said I generally don't read or like either of my sourced links in my post . I just find it a bit compelling the information and opinions that they had in this particular case. I really wouldn't think that I am much on conspiracy theories either and I was living less than 1/2 a mile away from WTC on 9/11 and saw some seemly weird stuff. I think it is within the discussion to share my links (as they are worth a look) and thoughts here, why did it piss you off enough to say to post that stuff elsewhere? I am a board member here and we were having a discussion. I will post information that seems pertinent if I want to.

 

What did you see that day?

[John in Jax]

Speculation on my part , but just goes to show the amount of influence an older sibling has have over a younger sibling.

 

No harm done. 99% of what's been posted in here declaring the absolute guilt of these brothers has also been speculation.

[John in Jax]

you are joking right? the two shootouts with police, the carjacked man who stated they advised him they were the boston bombers, the bloody 19 year old hiding in someones boat (who alledgedly fired shots from boat), THE VIDEO THAT SHOWS THEM WITH BACKPACKS AT THE SCENE, the limbless guy who fingered them out as the guilty party as he woke from his hospital bed, the older brothers ties to Islam and youtube playlist with terrorism?

 

Ummm, no. Other than what "the authorities" have told us, has ANYONE seen any evidence of this shootout? Has the guy who was carjacked done any interviews or been identified yet? I haven't seen anything. You do know that women have been raped....they have had the rapist's face right in front of them for SEVERAL / MANY MINUTES......yet sometimes THEY FINGER THE WRONG GUY. The "video" the FBI released was actually a bunch of still photos stitched together....take another look at it and notice the "ghosting" effect of ALL the people in it....was NOT a video. Other than the older brother going to RUSSIA....RUSSIA...for 6 months, I have not seen any real evidence that says he was at a terrorist training camp. Have you? Post it up please. Didn't see it, but I guess The Gov. of MA went on "Meet the Press" and HE SAID they have video of the younger bro dropping a backpack/bomb before it goes off.....release it........freeze frame it right as it explodes so we don't see limbs go flying.

 

Bottom line, I don't assume anyone's guilt until you SHOW me. And I damn sure don't take the "authorities" word as gospel truth....been on this earth way too long, and seen way too many lies come out of the mouths of the "authorities." Yeah, I'm very skeptical, but it doesn't mean I'm a nut.

[Kelly the Dog]

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Ummm, no. Other than what "the authorities" have told us, has ANYONE seen any evidence of this shootout? Has the guy who was carjacked done any interviews or been identified yet? I haven't seen anything. You do know that women have been raped....they have had the rapist's face right in front of them for SEVERAL / MANY MINUTES......yet sometimes THEY FINGER THE WRONG GUY. The "video" the FBI released was actually a bunch of still photos stitched together....take another look at it and notice the "ghosting" effect of ALL the people in it....was NOT a video. Other than the older brother going to RUSSIA....RUSSIA...for 6 months, I have not seen any real evidence that says he was at a terrorist training camp. Have you? Post it up please. Didn't see it, but I guess The Gov. of MA went on "Meet the Press" and HE SAID they have video of the younger bro dropping a backpack/bomb before it goes off.....release it........freeze frame it right as it explodes so we don't see limbs go flying.

 

Bottom line, I don't assume anyone's guilt until you SHOW me. And I damn sure don't take the "authorities" word as gospel truth....been on this earth way too long, and seen way too many lies come out of the mouths of the "authorities." Yeah, I'm very skeptical, but it doesn't mean I'm a nut.

Okay, so there is no real proof as of yet, but you're "alleged" to be a nut.

[Erik]

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Ummm, no. Other than what "the authorities" have told us, has ANYONE seen any evidence of this shootout? Has the guy who was carjacked done any interviews or been identified yet? I haven't seen anything. You do know that women have been raped....they have had the rapist's face right in front of them for SEVERAL / MANY MINUTES......yet sometimes THEY FINGER THE WRONG GUY. The "video" the FBI released was actually a bunch of still photos stitched together....take another look at it and notice the "ghosting" effect of ALL the people in it....was NOT a video. Other than the older brother going to RUSSIA....RUSSIA...for 6 months, I have not seen any real evidence that says he was at a terrorist training camp. Have you? Post it up please. Didn't see it, but I guess The Gov. of MA went on "Meet the Press" and HE SAID they have video of the younger bro dropping a backpack/bomb before it goes off.....release it........freeze frame it right as it explodes so we don't see limbs go flying.

 

Bottom line, I don't assume anyone's guilt until you SHOW me. And I damn sure don't take the "authorities" word as gospel truth....been on this earth way too long, and seen way too many lies come out of the mouths of the "authorities." Yeah, I'm very skeptical, but it doesn't mean I'm a nut.

 

There have been multiple eyewitnesses who witnessed the shoot-out. Civilians have bullet holes in their furniture from it. Reporters were on the scene. It's not hard to find the facts unless you aren't willing to see them. Christ buddy, it's easy to toss around these wild theories when you are hundreds of miles away isn't it?

[meazza]

Okay, so there is no real proof as of yet, but you're "alleged" to be a nut.

 

 

You owe me a keyboard.

[John in Jax]

There have been multiple eyewitnesses who witnessed the shoot-out. Civilians have bullet holes in their furniture from it. Reporters were on the scene. It's not hard to find the facts unless you aren't willing to see them.

 

How about early Friday morning WHEN POLICE SPOKESMEN told us a fact that the brothers robbed a 7-11? Well, guess what? Come to find out directly from 7-11 corporate officials that they did NOT rob a 7-11....but the police always tell us the truth, and are always 100% accurate and up front, right? What color is the sky in your world? lol

 

Also, no reporters WITH CAMERAS were on the scene. All I saw was some shaky cell phone video from hundreds of yards away, showing NO DETAILS whatsoever. It did show a cop car's flashing red & blue lights though! lol

[Erik]

How about early Friday morning WHEN POLICE SPOKESMEN told us a fact that the brothers robbed a 7-11? Well, guess what? Come to find out directly from 7-11 corporate officials that they did NOT rob a 7-11....but the police always tell us the truth, and are always 100% accurate and up front, right? What color is the sky in your world? lol

 

Also, no reporters WITH CAMERAS were on the scene. All I saw was some shaky cell phone video from hundreds of yards away, showing NO DETAILS whatsoever. It did show a cop car's flashing red & blue lights though! lol

 

I can vouch for the cops being there...I saw the lights, I heard the sirens. Again it's easy to spew this crap from so far away. I know many police officers in Watertown and the surrounding areas. I am surprised that some of them can even tie their shoes, God bless them, but I know they are hard workers. And I can tell you that they did not have the training to deal with a situation like this but some of them went in there anyway and you spit all over their effort and sacrifice with your ridiculous theories. That doesn't even mention the first responders, both police and EMS at the blast sites. That is what I have a problem with.

 

I have an idea, why don't you come to Watertown and approach these cops and people who live in the neighborhood and witnessed it all and call them liars to their faces?

[John in Jax]

I have an idea, why don't you come to Watertown and approach these cops and people who live in the neighborhood and witnessed it all and call them liars to their faces?

 

Never specifically called those cops liars. Chill.

Edited April 21, 2013 by John in Jax

[Kelly the Dog]

How about early Friday morning WHEN POLICE SPOKESMEN told us a fact that the brothers robbed a 7-11? Well, guess what? Come to find out directly from 7-11 corporate officials that they did NOT rob a 7-11....but the police always tell us the truth, and are always 100% accurate and up front, right? What color is the sky in your world? lol

 

They were in that 7-11 and there was a robbery around then, they just weren't the robbers. That doesn't mean anything.

[John in Jax]

Just read this at the Boston Globe's website: "Deveau said the Tsarnaev brothers hurled something at the officers – apparently a pressure cooker bomb -- and there was a tremendous explosion. Police later found the lid to a pressure cooker. “We believe it was an exact duplicate of the Boston Marathon bombs,” he said. The suspects also threw five “crude grenades” at officers; three of which exploded, he said." (Deveau is the Watertown Police Chief)

 

http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2013/04/21/new-details-wild-shootout-with-bomb-suspects-watertown-chief-believes-older-brother-was-killed-younger-brother-desperate-getaway/Z793pheqYmXbWbhPr74YDN/story.html (Story/link might not be available on Monday 4/22; in light of the bombing they made their website access free til Monday)

 

Umm, yeah, this all sounds plausible. The story actually says that THEY WERE EACH IN THEIR OWN CAR for this early Friday morning action. So they were driving a car, firing a gun(s), tossing grenades, AND tossing pressure cookers!? All at NIGHT too. Wonder if they were sending out tweets and updating their Facebook statuses too! Wow, they sure are/were good multi-(steve)taskers! lol

[Erik]

Just read this at the Boston Globe's website: "Deveau said the Tsarnaev brothers hurled something at the officers – apparently a pressure cooker bomb -- and there was a tremendous explosion. Police later found the lid to a pressure cooker. “We believe it was an exact duplicate of the Boston Marathon bombs,” he said. The suspects also threw five “crude grenades” at officers; three of which exploded, he said." (Deveau is the Watertown Police Chief)

 

http://www.bostonglo...4YDN/story.html (Story/link might not be available on Monday 4/22; in light of the bombing they made their website access free til Monday)

 

Umm, yeah, this all sounds plausible. The story actually says that THEY WERE EACH IN THEIR OWN CAR for this early Friday morning action. So they were driving a car, firing a gun(s), tossing grenades, AND tossing pressure cookers!? All at NIGHT too. Wonder if they were sending out tweets and updating their Facebook statuses too! Wow, they sure are/were good multi-(steve)taskers! lol

 

Wow you really are an idiot aren't you...not only is it not implausible to shoot a gun and throw something out the window while you are driving but the timeline is made clear by that dreaded eyewitness civilian account that you continue to conveniently ignore.

 

The shots, around 12:50 a.m., woke resident Jennings Aske, at 66 Laurel Ave. When he looked out his window he saw a green Honda Civic sedan stopped in the street, with its lights on and the driver’s side windows blown out. A husky man – apparently Tamerlan Tsarnaev -- stood nearby firing a gun.

“I saw him standing there shooting at police,” Aske said. “When he fired, there was a little flash of light. I could hear the gun firing. It was terrifying.”

 

It sounds like most of the action happened when the cars were stopped. But again you only see the facts that you want to see.

[mead107]

If your so concerned about this bomber send some money for his defense I have walked that street and my daughter and son inlaw have been at that finish line at past races. Everyone that walks that street is on a camera. If you believe someone is setting them up then you are saying it just to stir the pot. Move on because this hits close to home.

 

Hang the !@#$er in the center of Boston.

[Erik]

If your so concerned about this bomber send some money for his defense I have walked that street and my daughter and son inlaw have been at that finish line at past races. Everyone that walks that street is on a camera. If you believe someone is setting them up then you are saying it just to stir the pot. Move on because this hits close to home.

 

Hang the !@#$er in the center of Boston.

 

I was literally sitting in the window of that restaurant in front of the second blast, Forum, last year at the time of the bomb going off. But this clown has all the answers.

[mead107]

 

 

I was literally sitting in the window of that restaurant in front of the second blast, Forum, last year at the time of the bomb going off. But this clown has all the answers.

 

He is just putting crap out to piss people off. I am sure if his wife , girlfriend, or daughter has been in that area or was running in that race he might have a different opinion. I will not read any more of his crap.

[meazza]

Oh damn. Looks like another thread has made it to the depths of hell.

[John in Jax]

To "Erik": So now I'm "an idiot" and "a clown" because I have a different OPINION than you do? Well, that's nice. Please seek professional help asap.