Deranged Rhino Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 Come on....are we still really hanging on to this story from 20+ years ago? Considering he did it, lied about it, got Tennessee sued for it, then wrote a book wherein he lied about it again which resulted in the victim getting fired (because he described her as having a vulgar mouth, and she was then the head trainer at UT), then she sued Manning for breaking his NDA... I think it's a story that should get stapled to every manning story out there which tries to paint him as a paragon of virtue and class. He's lucky it happened in 96 and not 06. He'd have been run out of the league by the mob had it happened in today's social media climate. Class definitely doesn't include a painted laptop. I'm missing this reference ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 (edited) Considering he did it, lied about it, got Tennessee sued for it, then wrote a book wherein he lied about it again which resulted in the victim getting fired (because he described her as having a vulgar mouth, and she was then the head trainer at UT), then she sued Manning for breaking his NDA... I think it's a story that should get stapled to every manning story out there which tries to paint him as a paragon of virtue and class. He's lucky it happened in 96 and not 06. He'd have been run out of the league by the mob had it happened in today's social media climate. I'm missing this reference ... http://espn.go.com/college-football/news/story?id=3718266 A funny story. Edited February 8, 2016 by FireChan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 http://espn.go.com/college-football/news/story?id=3718266 A funny story. I'm slow today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Google it. Happened at Tennessee. allegedly. it was never fully proven, i am sure it did but we didn't hear all the facts due to the NDA. as such, yeah, i would imagine it's a little different - maybe less, maybe different... but i think the only dude in NCAA history who didn't cause trouble was Tim Tebow. Considering he did it, lied about it, got Tennessee sued for it, then wrote a book wherein he lied about it again which resulted in the victim getting fired (because he described her as having a vulgar mouth, and she was then the head trainer at UT), then she sued Manning for breaking his NDA... I think it's a story that should get stapled to every manning story out there which tries to paint him as a paragon of virtue and class. He's lucky it happened in 96 and not 06. He'd have been run out of the league by the mob had it happened in today's social media climate. I'm missing this reference ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 'Show me a good loser' Cam Newton defiantly defended his actions during a post-Super Bowl interview. The Carolina Panthers quarterback admitted he's a sore loser, but noted he won't change for anyone Rivera: Cam will learn from postgame presser Cam: We didn't lose Super Bowl because of one fumble Newton: 'I've been on record to say I'm a sore loser' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Its cute that he thinks its OK to be a sore loser. But the next time hr dances in someone's face he should get popped in his. He will do it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Its cute that he thinks its OK to be a sore loser. But the next time he dances in someone's face he should get popped in his. He will do it again. That would be taunting and to my knowledge he doesn't do that. @nflnetwork "We will be back" - @CameronNewton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 That would be taunting and to my knowledge he doesn't do that.Don't disrupt the Boyst narrative with facts, he hates that! Guy had a bad game on the biggest stage & didn't handle it close to well. He'll either learn from it or he won't. Only issue I had w his early comments before the SB was that he said he hadn't changed, hadn't matured since entering the league. His post game showed he is a man of his word, but his story is far from written. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Don't disrupt the Boyst narrative with facts, he hates that! Guy had a bad game on the biggest stage & didn't handle it close to well. He'll either learn from it or he won't. Only issue I had w his early comments before the SB was that he said he hadn't changed, hadn't matured since entering the league. His post game showed he is a man of his word, but his story is far from written. Those darned pesky facts in the way again! He's certainly matured since coming into the league, but it's very obvious that he still has some growing to do. As you alluded to, only time will tell just how far he progresses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted February 9, 2016 Author Share Posted February 9, 2016 Yep People don't want the truth. They want the PR guys written speech. Give me the truth, this ain't Sesame Street. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Its not letting me quote. But newton certainly does dance in the face of opponents. He scores a TD and the first thing he does is pose. Regardless of who is there or who he bumps in to - its Cam Newtons show. Of all things, his posing makes him just as famous as his playing. This past Sunday he posed as an NFL QB. Saturday night he played as an NFL MVP. Pesky facts of dancing Cam are still facts. He doesn't get called for taunting. He should be. Just like he should be penalized for giving away balls. Its a rule. He breaks it. Sure, its for the better of the league but its a rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Its not letting me quote. But newton certainly does dance in the face of opponents. He scores a TD and the first thing he does is pose. Regardless of who is there or who he bumps in to - its Cam Newtons show. Of all things, his posing makes him just as famous as his playing. This past Sunday he posed as an NFL QB. Saturday night he played as an NFL MVP. Pesky facts of dancing Cam are still facts. He doesn't get called for taunting. He should be. Just like he should be penalized for giving away balls. Its a rule. He breaks it. Sure, its for the better of the league but its a rule. Wrong! Throwing a ball into the stands is against the rules and results in a fine. Handing a ball to a kid or anyone in the stands is not a violation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 I (and I suspect many others) don't have as much of a problem with Cam as I do his apologists. I generally don't like arrogant pricks (see Tom Brady) or loud mouth hot shots (Floyd Mayweather) unless they go about it in a fun and playful way (see TO and Antonio Tarver). And by fun I mean the audience is in on the fun, not that he's showing up someone else but it's cool because he himself is having fun. That line of thought is !@#$ing stupid. The excuses made for this guy, and the ever-present racial allegations that are directed at anyone who finds his schtick mildly distasteful, are really annoying and actually make him a bigger target. I didn't like his arrogant persona (or what I read about it - acting cocky to vets as a rookie) when he first came into the league, but I actually started to like the guy around the time of the "Donkey Kong Suh" incident. Now I find myself rooting against him, not really because of anything he's done, but what he represents. Or more specifically, what he's being made to represent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Yep People don't want the truth. They want the PR guys written speech. Give me the truth, this ain't Sesame Street. -Vince Lombardi -Cam Newton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Newton: Emotions Take Over (6:47)Quarterback Cam Newton speaks to the media as players clean out their lockers and meet with coaches to wrap up the 2015 season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 I (and I suspect many others) don't have as much of a problem with Cam as I do his apologists. I generally don't like arrogant pricks (see Tom Brady) or loud mouth hot shots (Floyd Mayweather) unless they go about it in a fun and playful way (see TO and Antonio Tarver). And by fun I mean the audience is in on the fun, not that he's showing up someone else but it's cool because he himself is having fun. That line of thought is !@#$ing stupid. The excuses made for this guy, and the ever-present racial allegations that are directed at anyone who finds his schtick mildly distasteful, are really annoying and actually make him a bigger target. I didn't like his arrogant persona (or what I read about it - acting cocky to vets as a rookie) when he first came into the league, but I actually started to like the guy around the time of the "Donkey Kong Suh" incident. Now I find myself rooting against him, not really because of anything he's done, but what he represents. Or more specifically, what he's being made to represent. But you'd welcome him on the Bills because he's a damn good QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 (edited) But you'd welcome him on the Bills because he's a damn good QB. When Rexy's D gives puts us in a hole every game, he'd probably look like a completely different QB here. I really think he's in the perfect situation right now. I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up like Kaepernick in a few years. When the option run game isn't rolling and he's forced to stand in the pocket like the Super Bowl game he looks completely different. He throws a great deep ball, but the intermediate passes are very ugly at times. He won the MVP because he's a great athlete, and that opened up the passing game. I really believe in a few years will all be talking about Andrew Luck and Russell Wilson, not Newton. Edited February 9, 2016 by DriveFor1Outta5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 When Rexy's D gives puts us in a hole every game, he'd probably look like a completely different QB here. I really think he's in the perfect situation right now. I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up like Kaepernick in a few years. I would. Cam can read defenses and make accurate throws from the pocket. He also puts in quite a bit of work in film study. Lazy comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 (edited) I would. Cam can read defenses and make accurate throws from the pocket. He also puts in quite a bit of work in film study. Lazy comparison. Accurate deep passes maybe, I recall a lot of inaccurate intermediate passes on Sunday. I also remember watching him against the Bills several years ago from the first row. A lot of his passes were quite ugly. The Panthers did a great job of crafting an offense that fits him. Very few teams are willing to so. That's how he won the MVP. Don't underestimate the power of the Carolina run game that includes Newton. Edited February 9, 2016 by DriveFor1Outta5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Accurate deep passes maybe, I recall a lot of inaccurate intermediate passes on Sunday. I also remember watching him against the Bills several years ago from the first row. A lot of his passes were quite ugly. That was a long time ago and he's progressed quite a bit since that time. You obviously haven't watched him very much if you're comparing him to Kaep who's lost as a pocket passer. Again I say your comparison is lazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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