SBUffalo Posted December 26, 2012 Author Share Posted December 26, 2012 I actually don't expect Geno to go 1st overall unless he moves up boards through the process. The Chiefs have too many needs to bring a young QB in. I expect them to end up with one of the available QBs such as Alex Smith or Matt Flynn. I don't expect Jacksonville to draft him either. So we'll be waiting to see if somebody trades up ahead of us for him, or Philly takes him (I fullly expect them to go with Foles next season). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny33 Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 I actually don't expect Geno to go 1st overall unless he moves up boards through the process. The Chiefs have too many needs to bring a young QB in. I expect them to end up with one of the available QBs such as Alex Smith or Matt Flynn. I don't expect Jacksonville to draft him either. So we'll be waiting to see if somebody trades up ahead of us for him, or Philly takes him (I fullly expect them to go with Foles next season). The Chiefs are an absolute disaster in the passing game and the run defense, but have a decent secondary and a great rushing game. I do think that they would be fine drafting Smith if they retained Dwayne Bowe and draft well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bufcomments Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Even though its early in the draft thoughts I think this draft is close to what we need to happen. I dont think the Chiefs will move from the number one spot. They need a QB just as much as we do. Think Glennon falls to us and even though he reminds me of Drew Bledsoe its a young Drew Bledsoe and I dont think right now the Bills will have a better option. http://walterfootball.com/draft2013.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBUffalo Posted December 26, 2012 Author Share Posted December 26, 2012 The Chiefs are an absolute disaster in the passing game and the run defense, but have a decent secondary and a great rushing game. I do think that they would be fine drafting Smith if they retained Dwayne Bowe and draft well. It's almost 100% that Dwayne Bowe will be gone. Most reports are saying that the Chiefs have already made that decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny33 Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Fixed As you note, Geno is very different from RGIII. He is mobile in the sense that he is shifty around the pocket and can dodge tacklers, but he is not a guy who has designed rush plays or likes to scramble. He's a pocket passer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris in Syracuse Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 If Jacksonville gets the #1 pick we could trade with them. Give up a lot but get a franchise qb (Geno Smith). No way KC does that but if Jacksonville signs Tebow they could do a lot with our pics to rebuild. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Jacksonville is going after Tebow so we do have a shot at Geno. I actually don't expect Geno to go 1st overall unless he moves up boards through the process. The Chiefs have too many needs to bring a young QB in. I expect them to end up with one of the available QBs such as Alex Smith or Matt Flynn. I don't expect Jacksonville to draft him either. If Jacksonville gets the #1 pick we could trade with them. No way KC does that but if Jacksonville signs Tebow they could do a lot with our pics to rebuild. I wish I believed that Jacksonville and KC will not draft quarterbacks. But I don't. Peace KOK.......ok? You too Bro... This makes me uncomfortable. Not that there's anything wrong with that. :nana: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny33 Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 If Jacksonville gets the #1 pick we could trade with them. Give up a lot but get a franchise qb (Geno Smith). No way KC does that but if Jacksonville signs Tebow they could do a lot with our pics to rebuild. It's been stated that Jacksonville wants Tebow primarily as an h-back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocLawless Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 It shocks me that so many think that trading away draft picks to move up for ANY of the qb's in this draft is a good idea. I think many of you are forgetting how many records our defense set this year and that none of the qb's in this draft are too far apart from each other talent wise. We can get a geno smith with any pick in the first 2 rounds instead of trading away our picks and living with the many other holes this team has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 The wonders he has done with Robert Griffin this season is amazing. I wonder if anyone wanted to Cam Newton's offensive coordinator last offseason and if they would still want him now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBUffalo Posted December 27, 2012 Author Share Posted December 27, 2012 I wonder if anyone wanted to Cam Newton's offensive coordinator last offseason and if they would still want him now. A lot of people wanted him then, and a lot of people still want him. Rob Chudzinski will get interviews around the league. It shocks me that so many think that trading away draft picks to move up for ANY of the qb's in this draft is a good idea. I think many of you are forgetting how many records our defense set this year and that none of the qb's in this draft are too far apart from each other talent wise. We can get a geno smith with any pick in the first 2 rounds instead of trading away our picks and living with the many other holes this team has. I don't want to move up for any QBs if it's a move that costs more than two picks (I would NOT give up two firsts, I wouldn't give up more than a first and a third which could get the deal done if it's a jump of just two spots or so). If Geno is gone, I REALLY like Tyler Wilson. This guy has had shaky offensive lines and taken plenty of hits without letting it get to him. He's battle tested coming from the SEC. He's mature. He's got enough of an arm to be successful in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocLawless Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 (edited) A lot of people wanted him then, and a lot of people still want him. Rob Chudzinski will get interviews around the league. I don't want to move up for any QBs if it's a move that costs more than two picks (I would NOT give up two firsts, I wouldn't give up more than a first and a third which could get the deal done if it's a jump of just two spots or so). If Geno is gone, I REALLY like Tyler Wilson. This guy has had shaky offensive lines and taken plenty of hits without letting it get to him. He's battle tested coming from the SEC. He's mature. He's got enough of an arm to be successful in the NFL. Yea I see what you mean your right in the sense it could be a cheap move up since we will be close to the spot were trading up to. I do agree that Geno is the closest thing to cant miss in this years qb class but I still think it would be smarter to use the picks to trade back into the first and get a qb and te'o. Also I like Tyler Wilson too. I also saw him take a beating in a couple games this year thanks to his o-line and he kept his composure and still played ok against those sec defenses. Edited December 27, 2012 by DocLawless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewildrabbit Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 (edited) http://espn.go.com/nfl/draft Click McShay's board At this point I'd rather see Tyler Bray in a Bills uni rather then any other QB. BUT, only if the current coaches are gone. Edited December 27, 2012 by FeartheLosing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodlearm Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 The QB class this year is not that good. We need a gamechanger, wait until next year. If the Bills pass on Mantai Tao a true playmaker they are crazy. The last thing we need is some stiff that we have to suffer with for three years like JP or Fitz (or everyone else since Jim Kelly) before we have to retool again. Get some cast offs to come to camp and compete for the start next year, Fitz can carry the clipboard. He needs to get off the field before he gets killed. If anyone thinks they are close to the playoffs they are delusional. It will take a new HC, OC and DC and GM before that can happen. The team is in a holding pattern until the ownership change so I don't believe these changes will be made until then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 This makes me uncomfortable. Not that there's anything wrong with that. :nana: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 Kyle Shanahan is decent at best. He was pretty bad before this season. I live in the Redskins' market, so I see all their games. I think their succes has a lot more to do with RGIII than it does Kyle. Agreed. KS, early this season, was getting Griffin beaten to hell out there until he figured out (with a lot of help from the highly critical press ) that moderation was better for the health of the team and the quarterback. In any case, the chances of us getting Smith are slim and getting Shanahan even slimmer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussellDopeland Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 Doesn't Belichick have a son on his staff? If he does, I'd rather we hired him than the Rat's son. Kyle Shanahan specializes in cursing out officials, getting his daddy's coffee, and gravy-training his last name to earn hefty paychecks from gullible NFL owners. Why not Brian Shottenheimer? His offenses have been exhilarating to watch in recent years. Maybe Mike Shula will come to Buffalo. They have great last names- big deal! I do Like Geno; I just don't want him coached by another Lane Kiffin-type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean Cain Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 Kyle = No Geno = Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NastyNateSoldiers Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 The guy we need to get is Roman OC 49ers, This guy is innovative runs multiple sets both in the run and pass gm, The 49ers play that physical brand of football that we`ve been lacking in the last 10plus yrs. Roman has also been a key in the developments of 2 QB`s 1 that was a bust #1 overall pick ( Alex Smith ) and Colin Kaepernick the unpolished kid from Nevada. So he has the track record of getting the best out of his players He can also bring in Smith with him to ease the transition and i say draft 2 QB`s. Draft anyone of those QB`s in the second round, there should be plenty options Landry, Wilson, Murray, Nassib or Glennon. Also in the 3rd round i would take Logan Thomas from Vtech. If he decides to come out. We can develop that kid for a couple of yrs and see what happens. This kid has talent but just needs to be developed. Roman is a bright young coach. Reading his bio he has coached alot of positions TE`s, QB`s, OL, Defensive quality coach. So he is well rounded on both sides of the ball. But his bread and butter is the running game. They even went as far as saying he is a genius in designing running plays.. With our Backs and Oline we will be hard to stop. HIRE Roman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 A lot of people wanted him then, and a lot of people still want him. Rob Chudzinski will get interviews around the league. I was impressed with his offense in Cleveland, but I'd be more interested if he had two successful seasons in a row. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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