JÂy RÛßeÒ Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 http://news.yahoo.com/firefighters-shot-dead-upstate-ny-fire-150346447--abc-news-topstories.html A friend who lives in Webster says they've been told to stay indoors and away from doors/windows. RIP Heroes, and I hope whoever did this is burned alive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 Confusing article though. No active shooter or shooters? Because they escaped, are dead, in custody? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JÂy RÛßeÒ Posted December 24, 2012 Author Share Posted December 24, 2012 (edited) Confusing article though. No active shooter or shooters? Because they escaped, are dead, in custody? Apparently the SWAT team has left the area so I guess that area at least is secure. Haven't heard about anyone being caught yet. UPDATE: Now saying they believe shooter is deceased at the scene. Edited December 24, 2012 by JÂy RÛßeÒ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JÂy RÛßeÒ Posted December 24, 2012 Author Share Posted December 24, 2012 As of 1 PM: Police believe fire(s) were set as a trap as shooter waited and targeted first responders Shooter reportedly found dead at scene of gunshot wound, unsure if self-inflicted or shot by pursuing police. No other details on shooter. 2 surviving victims both have undergone surgery with significant bone injuries due to gunshot wounds, one to pelvis other to shoulder/chest. All victims were volunteer fire fighters one of the deceased was also a lieutenant in the Webster police department, the other was also a dispatcher. Fires are still burning with 8 homes involved at this time. Unable to get into homes to see if there are any other victims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 More ****ty news from the world! All the friggin nut cases are out. Sent these guck stick over to iraq Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwi Bills fan Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 That my hometown!! What the hell is going on up there in America? Has everyone gone off the deep end?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JÂy RÛßeÒ Posted December 24, 2012 Author Share Posted December 24, 2012 Details on the shooter (name withheld so as to give him as little publicity as possible): Convicted of manslaughter in 1980 for the beating death of his grandmother (with a hammer) Released after 17 years in 1997, finished supervised parole in 2006 Mother passed away 2 months ago, and she requested that memorials go to the West Webster volunteer fire/ambulance corps Fire started on his property His sister is unaccounted for Took his own life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwi Bills fan Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 (edited) I just learned that one of the victims (Chip) was a former classmate of mine. Always an all-around good guy. What a total waste. On top of the deaths, we shouldn't forget that 7 houses were burned to the ground. Imagine what those poor people are going through right now. Edited December 25, 2012 by Kiwi Bills fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 (edited) Details on the shooter (name withheld so as to give him as little publicity as possible): Convicted of manslaughter in 1980 for the beating death of his grandmother (with a hammer) Released after 17 years in 1997, finished supervised parole in 2006 Mother passed away 2 months ago, and she requested that memorials go to the West Webster volunteer fire/ambulance corps Fire started on his property His sister is unaccounted for Took his own life His names out there and he's dead so it doesn't matter. spitting image of buffalo bill from silence of lambs http://www.politisite.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/William-Spengle.jpg Honestly after murdering his grandmother with a hammer why was he ever walking the streets again? Either lethal injection or 40 life sentences with no parole. Preferably the former because I don't want to pay taxes so his kind can rot in jail. Some things are just so bad IMO you forfeit your place in society. Nothing good comes putting him back on the streets Edited December 25, 2012 by Joe_the_6_pack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 His names out there and he's dead so it doesn't matter. spitting image of buffalo bill from silence of lambs http://www.politisit...iam-Spengle.jpg Honestly after murdering his grandmother with a hammer why was he ever walking the streets again? Either lethal injection or 40 life sentences with no parole. Preferably the former because I don't want to pay taxes so his kind can rot in jail. Some things are just so bad IMO you forfeit your place in society. Nothing good comes putting him back on the streets I really do not understand our world. At a time that is meaningful to everyone there can be so much tragedy. This world has a lot of bad and all the rest of us can do is enjoy our time with family and make it matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBud Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 Godspeed brothers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowgirlsFan Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 May we keep everyone in our prayers. Man!! Webster is way too close to the Bills training camp! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 Was the sister's body in the house? Heard from my Mother (who lives in Rochester) that he murdered his sister. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowgirlsFan Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 Was the sister's body in the house? Heard from my Mother (who lives in Rochester) that he murdered his sister. Oooo!! This dude sounds like the one in Newton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 Was the sister's body in the house? Heard from my Mother (who lives in Rochester) that he murdered his sister. Charred body was found believed to be sisters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garion Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 Still not id'd as of yesterday's paper. Gun used is the same model in the Newtown shootings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 Still not id'd as of yesterday's paper. Gun used is the same model in the Newtown shootings. Popular weapon... What do those things go for @ Walmart? A grand or so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JÂy RÛßeÒ Posted December 27, 2012 Author Share Posted December 27, 2012 Apparently the sister was trying to get away from him - had bought her own house in Henrietta (about as far away from Webster as you can be in Monroe County) on Dec 13th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 As of 1 PM: Police believe fire(s) were set as a trap as shooter waited and targeted first responders Shooter reportedly found dead at scene of gunshot wound, unsure if self-inflicted or shot by pursuing police. No other details on shooter. 2 surviving victims both have undergone surgery with significant bone injuries due to gunshot wounds, one to pelvis other to shoulder/chest. All victims were volunteer fire fighters one of the deceased was also a lieutenant in the Webster police department, the other was also a dispatcher. Fires are still burning with 8 homes involved at this time. Unable to get into homes to see if there are any other victims. This whole situation makes me wonder about how many of these crazy f***ers are floating around our neighborhoods....watching our children play on the playground. Really, this guy bludgened his grandmother to death with a hammer, and he only does 17 years in prison?!?! The system is broken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 Its not the system... its the guns... This whole situation makes me wonder about how many of these crazy f***ers are floating around our neighborhoods....watching our children play on the playground. Really, this guy bludgened his grandmother to death with a hammer, and he only does 17 years in prison?!?! The system is broken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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