BuffaloBaumer Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Here is what I think would be a great idea. Trade for Vick, have him start next year while you let Fitz finish out this year. If Barkely and Geno Smith are gone before Buffalo picks, evaluate and see if the 3rd best guy is worth taking at the 10ish spot. If that guy is not going to be worth it, look for one in the 2nd and draft Teo. You then have Vick as a starter with the rookie learning the system for a year (or possibly 2). I am guessing Vick could be had because he will want to go somewhere with a chance to start. KC and Buffalo (possibly Jax, Jets and AZ) are the only teams who will be looking to upgrade the position. I think 2013 will be a good time to need a QB due to the least amount of teams needing a QB in a while. In summary, let Fitz finish the season, Trade for Vick (he has tons of time to learn the system), draft a QB and then that QB starts in 1-2 years. I believe by taking Vick, you don't have to have that down year when drafting a rookie. Is there one hole you can punch in this line of thought because there is no way you are going backwards with Vick over Fitz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Why would we have to even trade? Man will be without job, and not in high demand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBaumer Posted October 29, 2012 Author Share Posted October 29, 2012 Why would we have to even trade? Man will be without job, and not in high demand I just think it would be nice to be pro-active for a change when it comes to the QB position. Chan will be able to get more out of Vick's legs and arm than he can with Fitz. Vick then turns into the back-up after a year (or the opposit happens and he thrives under Chan). looks like a win win to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazed and Amuzed Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 We are all in on Fitz as long as Gailey is HC. I promise you that, like it or not. He firmly believes that this offense is too complicated for anyone to just pick up on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snamsnoops Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Unless Vick can play some D, then no thank you! We need help onour D. whether or not that is from a new D system, cordinator, or players. Our O is not bad. Granted Fitz isn't anything special he does produce enough to win. Our D is holding this team back way way more than Fitz! Just my 3 cent worth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAWNDO Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 How about Matt Moore as a free agent pick up and draft a QB? He looked good yesterday and he would already be the best QB on the Bills Roster. BTW Baumer any new news on ownership front? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 We already have Brad Smith. WTF would we want Vick for? Fail! If, for some unknown Gailey-ian reason the Bills want Vick, pick him up after he is cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 What about Vick excites people? In his last 20 games he has 22 INTs and 19 fumbles, compared to 27 TDs. I dont see how he is an upgrade at all. He is a huge liability and is going to get another coach fired Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 I just think it would be nice to be pro-active for a change when it comes to the QB position. Chan will be able to get more out of Vick's legs and arm than he can with Fitz. Vick then turns into the back-up after a year (or the opposit happens and he thrives under Chan). looks like a win win to me. chan being here seems to be a big assumption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBaumer Posted October 29, 2012 Author Share Posted October 29, 2012 How about Matt Moore as a free agent pick up and draft a QB? He looked good yesterday and he would already be the best QB on the Bills Roster. BTW Baumer any new news on ownership front? As far as the ownership, I will pm you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Truth Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Here is what I think would be a great idea. Trade for Vick, have him start next year while you let Fitz finish out this year. If Barkely and Geno Smith are gone before Buffalo picks, evaluate and see if the 3rd best guy is worth taking at the 10ish spot. If that guy is not going to be worth it, look for one in the 2nd and draft Teo. You then have Vick as a starter with the rookie learning the system for a year (or possibly 2). I am guessing Vick could be had because he will want to go somewhere with a chance to start. KC and Buffalo (possibly Jax, Jets and AZ) are the only teams who will be looking to upgrade the position. I think 2013 will be a good time to need a QB due to the least amount of teams needing a QB in a while. In summary, let Fitz finish the season, Trade for Vick (he has tons of time to learn the system), draft a QB and then that QB starts in 1-2 years. I believe by taking Vick, you don't have to have that down year when drafting a rookie. Is there one hole you can punch in this line of thought because there is no way you are going backwards with Vick over Fitz. I like the plan for the most part. What do you say we do coaching wise next year though? Keep Chan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaattMaann Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 why the PM for the ownership info....thats info a lot of posters would like...whats with all the elitism? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBaumer Posted October 29, 2012 Author Share Posted October 29, 2012 why the PM for the ownership info....thats info a lot of posters would like...whats with all the elitism? I certainly was not trying to pull off elitism. It was info that I mentioned a while back (publically) but did not think anyone remembered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quester74 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Here is what I think would be a great idea. Trade for Vick, have him start next year while you let Fitz finish out this year. If Barkely and Geno Smith are gone before Buffalo picks, evaluate and see if the 3rd best guy is worth taking at the 10ish spot. If that guy is not going to be worth it, look for one in the 2nd and draft Teo. You then have Vick as a starter with the rookie learning the system for a year (or possibly 2). I am guessing Vick could be had because he will want to go somewhere with a chance to start. KC and Buffalo (possibly Jax, Jets and AZ) are the only teams who will be looking to upgrade the position. I think 2013 will be a good time to need a QB due to the least amount of teams needing a QB in a while. In summary, let Fitz finish the season, Trade for Vick (he has tons of time to learn the system), draft a QB and then that QB starts in 1-2 years. I believe by taking Vick, you don't have to have that down year when drafting a rookie. Is there one hole you can punch in this line of thought because there is no way you are going backwards with Vick over Fitz. Just what we need.. a QB that turns the ball over more than Fitz does, and costs almost twice as much. Seems like a winning formula to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 (edited) Here is what I think would be a great idea. Trade for Vick, have him start next year while you let Fitz finish out this year. If Barkely and Geno Smith are gone before Buffalo picks, evaluate and see if the 3rd best guy is worth taking at the 10ish spot. If that guy is not going to be worth it, look for one in the 2nd and draft Teo. You then have Vick as a starter with the rookie learning the system for a year (or possibly 2). I am guessing Vick could be had because he will want to go somewhere with a chance to start. KC and Buffalo (possibly Jax, Jets and AZ) are the only teams who will be looking to upgrade the position. I think 2013 will be a good time to need a QB due to the least amount of teams needing a QB in a while. In summary, let Fitz finish the season, Trade for Vick (he has tons of time to learn the system), draft a QB and then that QB starts in 1-2 years. I believe by taking Vick, you don't have to have that down year when drafting a rookie. Is there one hole you can punch in this line of thought because there is no way you are going backwards with Vick over Fitz. OK OK sounds like we are all starting to lose it . Have you noticed that Vick is no better than what we have & we have a QB sitting every week that we don't use . So what you are saying is waste another pick on a trade to get Vick along with the 7th round pick that we wasted on bringing T Jack here ?? That just don't make no sense man !! At least get Jackson some reps , enough to replace Thiggy pudding let Thigpen go with B Smith as the #3 QB that opens up a roster spot , then go look for another good player i'm thinking more along the lines of a good LB to beef up our D which definitely needs the help . That way if the D does better we are in more games , if Fitz gets hurt we have a viable back up at QB that we are not afraid to put in a game & if we abandon this specialty kick off kicker idea we could add another player that could be in a position of need instead of having this guy sit like us on sundays watching the game from his living room or where ever the inactives watch from . But to trade for a QB that has the drop sees and is doing no better than what we put on the field now makes no sense what so ever !!!!! Edited October 29, 2012 by T master Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBaumer Posted October 29, 2012 Author Share Posted October 29, 2012 I like the plan for the most part. What do you say we do coaching wise next year though? Keep Chan? I think it all depends on where the true problem is with the defense. I personally don't think the players are NEARLY as bad as the coaching is. Look what Wade did with the Houston D in ONE off-season. If they got an up and coming D coordinator that can light a fire under the defense, Chan might survive. If Chan doesn't stray from Fitz and does not have the vision to move forward on QB, his job is as good as gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 So the plan is to trade for a QB that is worse than the one we currently have and makes more money? Brilliant!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 So the plan is to trade for a QB that is worse than the one we currently have and makes more money? Brilliant!!! its called being proactive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 So the plan is to trade for a QB that is worse than the one we currently have and makes more money? Brilliant!!! And don't forget gets hurt more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBaumer Posted October 29, 2012 Author Share Posted October 29, 2012 (edited) So the plan is to trade for a QB that is worse than the one we currently have and makes more money? Brilliant!!! Count me in as someone who believes that Vick is not NEARLY as bad as what is being portrayed right now. Lots of people here think Vick is garbage and that is fine, I do not. Should get interesting at least..... http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/10/29/report-eagles-likely-to-change-from-vick-to-nick/ Edited October 29, 2012 by BuffaloBaumer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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