jjmac Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 Anybody who has read my posts knows that I have my opinions on the Bills, and that I'm not afraid to express them. That being said, I just got done working on a paper for school, and, before my brained geared down for the evening, a question popped into my head, one that I can't answer. Could the problem with the defense be that Wanny doesn't have the players he needs to run it? I appreciate your answers in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 You mean small linebackers, a pretty weak CB #23, a hot/cold SS, and a FA Defensive End out with knee injury, another with a sore wrist that doesn't want opposing OT's touching his facemask....you might be on to something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wonderbread Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 You mean small linebackers, a pretty weak CB #23, a hot/cold SS, and a FA Defensive End out with knee injury, another with a sore wrist that doesn't want opposing OT's touching his facemask....you might be on to something. Meh. What has he done in the last 15 years that give him a pass. His track record is well established as less than mediocre. I never thought I'd beg for wade back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 Meh. What has he done in the last 15 years that give him a pass. His track record is well established as less than mediocre. I never thought I'd beg for wade back Not a Wanny fan here...just that we are stuck in a rut with mediocre players and a below average defensive schemer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 You fit your offensive and defensive schemes around your players. Not the other way around. If he doesn't have the personnel to do what he wants, then he needs to do what he has the personnel for. It's what identifies a GOOD coach. It's not like we've abandoned the defense or anything. For the most part the previous 3 drafts have been defensively orientated. We've picked up multiple FAs (Mario, Anderson, Barnett, Morrison) to fit the schemes that they've tried to implement. It's time they play to their players strengths. Lets stop with the square peg in a round hole crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 You fit your offensive and defensive schemes around your players. Not the other way around. If he doesn't have the personnel to do what he wants, then he needs to do what he has the personnel for. It's what identifies a GOOD coach. It's not like we've abandoned the defense or anything. For the most part the previous 3 drafts have been defensively orientated. We've picked up multiple FAs (Mario, Anderson, Barnett, Morrison) to fit the schemes that they've tried to implement. It's time they play to their players strengths. Lets stop with the square peg in a round hole crap. Well said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Beard Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 There is a saying about good coaches: "He can take his and beat yours, and he can take yours and beat his" The credit for this saying is not clear, posssibly Don Shula? or maybe Bum Philips (Wade's father)? Or maybe somebody else. The point is: a good coach knows the best way to use the players that he has at any given time, whether it is starters, second stringers, or rejects. Wannstedt doesn't seem to be able to make the most out of the players that he has. I bet Belichick or either of the Ryan brothers, or probably several other coaches around the league could make this defense look pretty good. They would know how to use the players that they have and design schemes and strategies to get results. You can't fit a square peg into a round hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 There is a saying about good coaches: "He can take his and beat yours, and he can take yours and beat his" The credit for this saying is not clear, posssibly Don Shula? or maybe Bum Philips (Wade's father)? Or maybe somebody else. The point is: a good coach knows the best way to use the players that he has at any given time, whether it is starters, second stringers, or rejects. Wannstedt doesn't seem to be able to make the most out of the players that he has. I bet Belichick or either of the Ryan brothers, or probably several other coaches around the league could make this defense look pretty good. They would know how to use the players that they have and design schemes and strategies to get results. You can't fit a square peg into a round hole. Graybeard...meet mrags. Mrags...Graybeard. I assume you know each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkrules Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 You fit your offensive and defensive schemes around your players. Not the other way around. If he doesn't have the personnel to do what he wants, then he needs to do what he has the personnel for. It's what identifies a GOOD coach. It's not like we've abandoned the defense or anything. For the most part the previous 3 drafts have been defensively orientated. We've picked up multiple FAs (Mario, Anderson, Barnett, Morrison) to fit the schemes that they've tried to implement. It's time they play to their players strengths. Lets stop with the square peg in a round hole crap. I'm in this camp. I was under the impression that Wanny supported the decision to go after Williams. Either way you build the defense around the strengths of your players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 Graybeard...meet mrags. Mrags...Graybeard. I assume you know each other. you only capitalized my name the 2nd time. What's up with that? Am I not good enough for you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 you only capitalized my name the 2nd time. What's up with that? Am I not good enough for you? Auto type on these dumb phones. Take it up with Motorola.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 Meh. What has he done in the last 15 years that give him a pass. His track record is well established as less than mediocre. I never thought I'd beg for wade back In his last 8 years in the NFL, he has had a top 10 defense 6 times and didn't have one ranked lower than 14th. http://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches/WannDa0.htm The defense has blown monkey balls but he has a very good resume. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 Auto type on these dumb phones. Take it up with Motorola.. lol. I hear ya. Every single post I've had in the last 3+ years has been on an iPhone. Let me just say that the spell check is better on the iphone5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 In his last 8 years in the NFL, he has had a top 10 defense 6 times and didn't have one ranked lower than 14th. http://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches/WannDa0.htm The defense has blown monkey balls but he has a very good resume. Maybe it's time for him to break out some of that shnazzy defensive scheming for the "round peg square hole" argument for our specific players and their talents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
....lybob Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 You mean small linebackers, a pretty weak CB #23, a hot/cold SS, and a FA Defensive End out with knee injury, another with a sore wrist that doesn't want opposing OT's touching his facemask....you might be on to something. I think this is dead on- but Wanny has to look at this defense for what he's got not what he hoped to have- Wanny thought he could bring pressure by bringing just 4 but guess what Wanny you can't so adjust that's what your being paid to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 Maybe it's time for him to break out some of that shnazzy defensive scheming for the "round peg square hole" argument for our specific players and their talents. And that probably is the best argument against Wanny. He is stubborn and the league has completely changed. But no one was making that argument when he was hired as DC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wonderbread Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 In his last 8 years in the NFL, he has had a top 10 defense 6 times and didn't have one ranked lower than 14th. http://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches/WannDa0.htm The defense has blown monkey balls but he has a very good resume. Not sure about you but I try not to let stats get in the way of my villification of DW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 And that probably is the best argument against Wanny. He is stubborn and the league has completely changed. But no one was making that argument when he was hired as DC. Not true, about no one making that argument! The ones that did got blasted. I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloFan68 Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 The game has clearly passed Wanny by. He is clueless & unable to make gameday adjustments. He is a liability to the team & needs to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamrock Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 Maybe he's asking the LBers to fill the gap as well as any other teams backs (?) but then asks that at no point are they allowed past the line of scrimmage. Ever. Do not cross. The backs seem to come up from a deep set & literally just stop. Barnett came up on the 83 yard run and got stopped, turned from outside to inside & allowed that gap to open- no way if he penetrated through that that play goes 83. Oh, & I think they blitzed once last week- from memory. I think the most they've blitzed is maybe 5 times against Arizona. I saw Houston had blitzed 5 times in maybe the first 5 minutes last week... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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