Dragonborn10 Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 (edited) If Finley is worth $7.5 mil per then Stevie has to be worth 8-10 for this team. I'm not saying some other team will pay Stevie 8-10 but he is the true and only #1 on this team. The only guy I would pay more for is Vincent Jackson. Bowe, Garcon, the two in New Orleans are in the same conversation as Stevie and we might as well stick with what we know. BTW Nix deserves some props for the McGee restructure Edited February 23, 2012 by Dadonkadonk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjmac Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 I just hope Chandler does not get delusions of grandeur when he sees these numbers... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1B4IDie Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 Wait, people think Stevie won't get 8-9 mil per year on a 5 year deal as a free agent? That's funny. Bills fans are cheap! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JStranger76 Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 Chandler is worth 3-4 M per season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjmac Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 Chandler is worth 3-4 M per season. i mentiuoned Chandler becasue the Raiders signed a TE (I forgot his name), primarily a blocker, to a $4M/year contract. Chandler will probably ask for more than that. The question is, how much more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 I just hope Chandler does not get delusions of grandeur when he sees these numbers... One thing that Chandler must not forget because other NFL teams surely won't is that Chandler had zero catches in 2+ years in the league before he came to Buffalo. A guy like Kevin Boss got 4 million a year and he was a consistent player since his rookie year with the NYG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JStranger76 Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 It was Kevin Boss, who is a little better blocker than Chandler and about equal as a reciever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 I think most people are going to be surprised at what Johnson can and will get. I think the consensus among Bills fans is he’ll get somewhere around 7-7.5 mil per year. I believe he’ll get 9.5 million or more and from Buffalo. I could see him getting a 6 year deal for $58 million with $21 million guaranteed. If I’m right, do you still want him at that price Bills fans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 People complain about these numbers all the time like we are overpaying these guys. If 80,000 people came to watch me do my job paying 80 bucks a seat, I'd expect my paycheck to reflect that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 I would take Finley at that salary. He's a beast. Just needs to stay healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloFan68 Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 I would pay Stevie 8 mill a year without a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 I just hope Chandler does not get delusions of grandeur when he sees these numbers... Amen that was exactly my first thought when i read this . Stevie already has an outline by what the WR are getting paid , if this jacks up the price of TE's it will just give Chandler more ammo for him to go to Buddy with ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 If Finley is worth $7.5 mil per then Stevie has to be worth 8-10 for this team. I'm not saying some other team will pay Stevie 8-10 but he is the true and only #1 on this team. The only guy I would pay more for is Vincent Jackson. Bowe, Garcon, the two in New Orleans are in the same conversation as Stevie and we might as well stick with what we know. BTW Nix deserves some props for the McGee restructure The fact that it is only a two year contract makes it a bargain from the Pack perspective. Would I give Stevie Johnson $10M per for two seasons? Absolutely. For 7 years? No. Will it take $10M, I don't think so but if that's the market and you have a timetable for winning then so be it. Chandler is worth 3-4 M per season. I would say more like 3 years $8M. And that might be a little rich. Lumbering TE's don't bring big bucks. As noted, a much more impressive player in Kevin Boss only got a $4M deal. That is if the Bills are interested in retaining him at anything above minimum. My guess is Chan thinks he can get just as much out of Lee Smith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 I would pay Stevie 8 mill a year without a problem. He's going to get way more than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Trooth Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 If Finley is worth $7.5 mil per then Stevie has to be worth 8-10 for this team. That's both amusing and ridiculous. Finley's a TE and has a higher yds./catch avg. than a wide receiver. Finley played on a team that had 4 or 5 viable target options for their QB and still managed to snatch over 50 balls. Johnson was basically was perhaps 1 of 3 viable targets Fitz had... and when Fred and Chandler went down, he was the only target. Finley does his deeds on a team that lost only one regular season game. Johnson did his deeds (and misdeeds) on a team that lost 10 times as many games as did Finley's team. Johnson is a good possession receiver. Not a very good one, not an excellent one, not an outstanding one. As possession receivers, right now the gold standard in the NFL is Wes Welker, Larry Fitzgerald, Marques Colston, and Dwayne Bowe. I'd take any of those guys before I'd even sniff Johnson. Bowe and Fitzgerald did it with 3 different QBs this past season and Colston did it playing in 14 games this season and injured a lot of the time. A lot of Bills fans over value Johnson. Not by a little, by a lot. If I were the Bills GM I'd make an off of 6 - 6.5M. Take it or leave. No team worth a schitt is gonna pay him more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 (edited) That's both amusing and ridiculous. Finley's a TE and has a higher yds./catch avg. than a wide receiver. Finley played on a team that had 4 or 5 viable target options for their QB and still managed to snatch over 50 balls. Johnson was basically was perhaps 1 of 3 viable targets Fitz had... and when Fred and Chandler went down, he was the only target. Finley does his deeds on a team that lost only one regular season game. Johnson did his deeds (and misdeeds) on a team that lost 10 times as many games as did Finley's team. Johnson is a good possession receiver. Not a very good one, not an excellent one, not an outstanding one. As possession receivers, right now the gold standard in the NFL is Wes Welker, Larry Fitzgerald, Marques Colston, and Dwayne Bowe. I'd take any of those guys before I'd even sniff Johnson. Bowe and Fitzgerald did it with 3 different QBs this past season and Colston did it playing in 14 games this season and injured a lot of the time. A lot of Bills fans over value Johnson. Not by a little, by a lot. If I were the Bills GM I'd make an off of 6 - 6.5M. Take it or leave. No team worth a schitt is gonna pay him more. This is the most ridiculous post in a while. You're delusional if you think Stevie's value with the Bills or any other team is 6-6.5, no more like crazy. I can understand not wanting to sign Stevie for 9-10 mil, but your statements about his value are bizarre. Edited February 23, 2012 by Triple Threat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Sign Stevie. The more I read about him and market value research the more I am finding I do not know about player salaries. Sign him, a dollar two fifty. 8 1/4 million year contract, 5 year deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 The fact that it is only a two year contract makes it a bargain from the Pack perspective. Would I give Stevie Johnson $10M per for two seasons? Absolutely. For 7 years? No. Will it take $10M, I don't think so but if that's the market and you have a timetable for winning then so be it. I would say more like 3 years $8M. And that might be a little rich. Lumbering TE's don't bring big bucks. As noted, a much more impressive player in Kevin Boss only got a $4M deal. That is if the Bills are interested in retaining him at anything above minimum. My guess is Chan thinks he can get just as much out of Lee Smith. Incorrect. In 2 years the cap will sky rocket and he will be a huge dollar FA. If you can lock guys at today's salaries long term its urgent to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toshiero Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 If Finley is worth $7.5 mil per then Stevie has to be worth 8-10 for this team. I'm not saying some other team will pay Stevie 8-10 but he is the true and only #1 on this team. The only guy I would pay more for is Vincent Jackson. Bowe, Garcon, the two in New Orleans are in the same conversation as Stevie and we might as well stick with what we know. BTW Nix deserves some props for the McGee restructure Just because he is the #1 on a Bad Bills team, it doesn't make him a #1 in the NFL. He is a #2 and that is most likely what the Bills are offering. I would also put in fines out the ass for him doing stupid ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zulu Cthulhu Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 This is the most ridiculous post in a while. You're delusional if you think Stevie's value with the Bills or any other team is 6-6.5, no more like crazy. I can understand not wanting to sign Stevie for 9-10 mil, but your statements about his value are bizarre. It shouldn't surprise you. Trooth is probably the biggest irrational SJ hater on this board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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