Drafttek #7

[Joe Miner]

I love Draftek's stuff, but just wait, this will be updated.

 

Pick 41 just before the Bills at 42 has Miami taking Landry Jones. And since Jones is headed back to school, I wouldn't get too excited about Tannehill just yet.

[Trader]

Not basing a draft on assumptions, was merely addressing a question as to why a player was listed there. Reiff is a good OL who can play multiple positions along the line and I could see him challenging Bell for the starting role right away. That said I don't see him as the pick there.

 

The pass rush definitely needs to be addressed though I'm not sure early in the draft is the best place to do it given the lack of top pass rushers this year. Also, what is up in the air right now is the defense the Bills intend to run next year. After reading what Wanny and Barnett said in recent interviews I'm leaning towards a 4-3 as the new scheme.

 

Ran Drafttek with the opinion of Buffalo going 43 and this is the draft I get right now:

1. Quinton Coples DE UNC

2. Tannehill

3. Donnie Fletcher CB BC

4. Tavares King WR Georgia

4. Trenton Robinson FS Mich ST

5. Nigel Bradham OLB FLA St

6. Justin Pugh OT Syracuse

7. Rhett Ellison TE USC

 

Passing on Tannehill would give Buffalo Nick Toon WR

 

Still a lot of things to be decided before we worry too much about mocks right now though.

Don't worry Tannehill is gone before our pick.

Edited January 9, 2012 by Trader

[Captain Hindsight]

Assuming injury is a terrible reason to base a draft. To me pass rush us screaming for an upgrade. OT could be improved, like any position,but is not a major area of concern. Tweaking OT is not a luxury we can afford when out front 7 needs attention.

 

PTR

Agreed. It should be BPA especially if he can rush the passer

[robert cohen]

Draftek

 

1. LOT Riley Reiff 6'6" 300 Iowa

 

"Reiff declared for the draft this week, securing his spot as Kiper's seventh-best prospect and second best lineman, agreeing with most mocksters. Jury's still out on free-agent Demetrius Bell, who has had one injury-free season in four years, and last year's 4th-rounder, Chris Hairston, who got toasted by DE Mark Anderson of the Pats in week 17. Bills fans swooned over Bryan Bulaga last year, and would welcome Bulaga's successor at Iowa as a mainstay at LT. What impresses me about Reiff is his excellent use of hands, fast footwork, wide base and leverage, impressive balance, and a fight-to-the-finish ethic. The only thing that worries me with Reiff's selection is the scarcity of top-shelf defensive pass rushers in this draft, and going OT in the first round effectively limits the Bills' choice at a their #1 position of need. It defaults the Bills to finding their pass rusher in free agency (Mario Williams, anyone?)."

 

2. QB Ryan Tannehill 6'4" 222 Tex A&M

 

"The Bills are not going to reach at QB after investing so heavily in Fitz, but if Tannehill falls to them in RD2, Ralph himself might sprint to the podium. The Bills need to look early for their franchise quarterback, and I like Tannehill. He showed his mettle in A&M's bowl win vs. Northwestern with a 67% completion rate and a 139 passer rating (not unusual numbers over his career), but it is Tannehill's leadership, quick decision-making, and accuracy that make him a savvy pick for development. I was especially impressed with Tannehill's resilience vs. RG3 and the Baylor Bears this season and his pinpoint passing and elusiveness in his past two seasons. Watch Tannehill's 2010 game vs. LSU and see if you detect an upgrade to the parade of poor passers (and playoff-free results) we've undergone since Jimbo left. While it means neglecting the pass rush yet again in RD2, the Bills absolutely need to groom a QB with better accuracy. Tannehill is a wise choice here. "

3. OLB34 Brandon Jenkins 6'3" 254 Fla St.

4. DE34 Kheeston Randall 6'5" 298 Texas

4. WR Taveres King 6'1" 192 Georgia

5. CB Cliff Harris 5'11" Oregon

6. NT Nicolas Jean-Baptiste 6'3" 335 Baylor

 

http://www.drafttek.com/CMDRound1.asp

 

 

My draft; since the likelihood of us going 43 is great I'll go that route otherwise the above draft is awesome.

 

1. Reiff - finally a real LT

2. Tannehill - franchise

3. OLB Lavonte David 6'1" 224 Nebraska - Tackling machine

 

"LaVonte David transferred to Nebraska after playing JUCO for two years so he doesn’t have a lot of big time college football experience. However, in that short amount of time he has been able to make a name for himself. In his first year playing in the Big 12, he racked up over 150 tackles, 10 pass break ups, and 6 sacks. He is very instinctive and a tackling machine but his lack of size and scheme versatility may hurt him come draft day and he may not be drafted as high as most initially thought." New era Scouting

4. TE Michael Egnew 6'5" 242 Missouri - could be our Aaron Hernandez

 

" During the 2010 campaign he caught 90 passes for 762 yards and five touchdowns. The beginning of 2011 has not gone too well for Egnew. Egnew had a decent senior season for Missouri, catching 50 passes for 523 yards and three touchdowns. Those are not great numbers for a Tigers tight end, but with a rushing quarterback and a ground game that could move effectively, Egnew did not got too many opportunities to catch the ball. The good news is that Egnew is s still a great pass catcher and he got more practice blocking than most Mizzou tight ends." College sports madness

 

4. OLB Tank Carder 6'2" 238 TCU - great instincts, needs a little more strength but the rest is there.

"Carder is tough to peg when projecting to the NFL. He has spent most of his time at TCU in the middle of the defense. However, he could move to the outside at the next level due to his speed and pass rushing ability. Yet, he also fits pretty well in the middle since he is a very instinctual player who can sit back, read the defense and attack the ball.

Besides his knack for returning interceptions for touchdowns. He was still the leader of one of the best defenses in the nation, but the talent around him was better and he did not have to put up huge numbers. That will not change his draft status though. He is still a ball hawk who can simply make plays. Where he plays at the next level is still the biggest question and that will have to be answered before he can start thinking about cracking the top two rounds of the 2012 NFL Draft." college sports madness

5. CB Trumaine Johnson 6'2" 204 Montana

 

"A raw, physically gifted prospect with upside, Johnson looks the part of a press corner — has a lean, high-cut, athletic build with exceptionally long arms, defined muscle and a projectable frame.Smooth, naturally athletic movement skills, including long, fluid strides and terrific ball skills — outstanding leaper who displays hand-eye coordination, body control and soft hands in the air.Freelances in search of big plays and lassos too many tackles.Is egocentric and will have to adopt a professional work ethic after being able to coast against inferior athletes on the practice field and on game days." pro football weekly

6. WR Tommy Streeter 6'5" 215 Miami - 4.4 - 40

 

"with a long set of arms, big hands and is the kind of guy who can create mismatches down by the red zone and will go get the football even when covered up. He showcases a real toughness about his game willing to work the middle of the field and takes the shot. Possess body control to go up and get the football in jump ball situations as well.

Streeter also displays a deceptive vertical ability about his game as he builds speed as he goes down the field and uses his long stride to track the football and adjust to the play. He fends off the contact well of cornerbacks vertically, typically gets his body in position to make a play and can come down with some tough grabs."

 

7. DE Codarro Law 6'2" 265 Southern Miss - will be a third rounder but for fun I will take him here while I can. Devastating tackler, nasty attitude, makes a ton of plays in the backfield.

 

"Law is one of the toughest college players I’ve seen when watching him on film. Learns to adapt on the fly right away. It does not take Law long to learn your teams playbook along with the pass rushing schemes that your defensive coordinator will assign Law. Very smart instinctive football player. Showcases great awareness at getting to the football. Law’s ability to get to the football as a pass rusher, run stuffer, or turnover machine is one of his primary strengths, had 7 sacks in 2009 as a sophomore redshirt, 6 sacks as a junior ,finished his career with 9.5 sacks in 2011. burst off the edge to win the one on one battles with his speed and aggressive ability as a pass rusher." Rant sports

 

 

FA targets: DEs Marrio Williams, Robert Mathis, Cliff Aviril

WRs Vince Jackson, Mike Wallace, Wes Welker

 

 

 

(sidenote: Hey San Jose Bills fan and any other draft junkie, this site is for you;

 

http://www.fanaticalfootballfiend.com/

u and ur damn tannenhill... id rather a guy later like kellen moore that a BUST like tannenhill.. tannenhill is USELESS.. he will not be a good NFL QB

[DrDawkinstein]

I wouldnt hate the OT pick in the 1st, but would be very upset about leaving Courtney Upshaw on the board as Pass Rush and OLB is a much larger need than OT right now. OT is still a need, dont get me wrong, but if we re-sign Bell (which should be easily and cheaply done) then it is a much smaller need.

 

 

I finally figured out this weekend who Upshaw reminds me of... John Abraham.

 

Our DL/Front-7 sure could use an Abraham. Stout against the run, and over a 12 year career has averaged about 10+ sacks/season.

 

He would play the position that Merriman is in. A DE-type OLB. He wont need to drop into coverage much, and can definitely set the edge and also get after the QB.

 

He's about the same size and speed as both Abraham and Merriman, but they have about 2inches on Upshaw. However, considering the height of the Steelers OLBs, Upshaw should not have much of a size issue.

[jjmac]

Are you trying to find me the next London Fletcher here?

 

If so, i'll pass. I need pass rush. Not a guy who gets to where he needs to be in order to make a tackle. I need guys moving upfield, with an angry demeanor, intending to do bad things to the qb. Not a guy waiting for the running back to commit to a hole, so he can make a tackle.

 

How much pass rush are you counting on from the LBs?

 

were going 43 so pass rushing OLBs are out. This kid can flat out play and a few other sites had him listed 10 lbs heavier.

 

I got Law for pass rush and forgot to mention that we should target Marrio Williams, Robert Mathis or Cliff Aviril at DE.

 

Will Houston let Williams walk? And what about his injury?

[DrDawkinstein]

How much pass rush are you counting on from the LBs?

 

If we stick with the 34, then most of the pass rush is generated by the OLBs. So, a lot.

[jjmac]

If we stick with the 34, then most of the pass rush is generated by the OLBs. So, a lot.

 

Dave Wannestadt? 3-4? Can't see that happening.

[DrDawkinstein]

Dave Wannestadt? 3-4? Can't see that happening.

 

Why not? If we have the personnel for it, Wanny can run it. Just because he "prefers" the 43, doesnt mean he has to do it.

 

If reports are accurate, he was calling plays the final 3 weeks, and our 34 defense played much much better.

 

He's been running defenses for almost 30 years. Im sure he knows the 34.

[Buffalo Barbarian]

I don't understand why we take an OL in the first round when we had a very good running game and were the least sacked team in the NFL...

Cuz LT is still a big problem.

 

This kid Melvin Ingram checks all of the boxes; 4-3 end, great pass rusher and plays the rush very well, NFL body, long arms, plays hard all of the time...

 

youtube.com/watch?v=F5dkwPHQJXk&feature=related

 

 

If we don't sell the farm for RG III, I'm hoping he's our pick.

He's good but in the games I saw he wasn't overwhelming so I wouldn't pick him in the ten spot.

[Buffalo Barbarian]

It's pretty apparent that seeing as you have your picks through out all the rounds that you have done your home work , but i'm not sure i agree with some of your picks .

 

The entire Tannenhill infatuation i don't get at all But like i said you look like you've done your home work so , i guess ? With that i think pass rush is the most important thing the Bills need this year in the draft & if we invest in a QB i think there could be a better possibility in the later rounds of a DEVELOPMENTAL QB !! Which would mean less risk vs. reward not to mention money ..

 

The kid that declared from ASU looks as if he might be a good prospect but from what i catch he has some issues with doing things his way & not listening to his coach .

 

I hope we go heavy on D again this year but would love it if Blakmon fell to us which i highly doubt it , but hey you can dream can't you ?? I have a lot more faith in Buddy & Chan than i do my self or any other Bills fan & there research that's for sure !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I just hope RW does & doesn't stick his nose where it doesn't belong & let the guys he hired do their job !!!!

I'd take Blackmon in a heart beat at 10 but don't think he will be there. Tannehill is first round talent so getting him in the second would be a steal and Fitz isn't the answer.

 

I love Draftek's stuff, but just wait, this will be updated.

 

Pick 41 just before the Bills at 42 has Miami taking Landry Jones. And since Jones is headed back to school, I wouldn't get too excited about Tannehill just yet.

Sush, you're ruining the dream

 

u and ur damn tannenhill... id rather a guy later like kellen moore that a BUST like tannenhill.. tannenhill is USELESS.. he will not be a good NFL QB

On what evidence?

 

Drafttek picked him and other sites have picked him for us too so I'm not the only one that thinks he's good.

 

How much pass rush are you counting on from the LBs?

 

 

 

Will Houston let Williams walk? And what about his injury?

not much from a 43. Williams may want to walk to get back in a 43.

[John from Riverside]

To the OP.....where does the improvement in our defense (which is by far our biggest need) come from?

 

Bell and Hairston are fine at LT.....we just got the injury bug this year (any team that gets down to its 3rd option at LT is gonna be in trouble)

 

QB in the 2nd round? Fine I will by that in fact I think that is a great idea.....but we need a DE for our new 4-3 scheme BAD....Wanstaddt by himself is not gonna fix this defense. You need pass rush coming off the edge to force the QB up into our DT's

[Buffalo Barbarian]

To the OP.....where does the improvement in our defense (which is by far our biggest need) come from?

 

Bell and Hairston are fine at LT.....we just got the injury bug this year (any team that gets down to its 3rd option at LT is gonna be in trouble)

 

QB in the 2nd round? Fine I will by that in fact I think that is a great idea.....but we need a DE for our new 4-3 scheme BAD....Wanstaddt by himself is not gonna fix this defense. You need pass rush coming off the edge to force the QB up into our DT's

We don't have any 43 OLBs so that is a big need and they can blitz them like Denver does with V Miller. Cordarro law is a pass rusher and like I said will probably be a 3rd rounder but I went with draftek rankings so he's a 7th here. Also I'm targeting a premiere DE in FA so relax a little, the draft is a long time from now and many players will move up and down the board and who knows what will happen.

[Billshank Redemption]

I watched tannehill a few times this year and i wasn't really impressed once.

[jjmac]

Why not? If we have the personnel for it, Wanny can run it. Just because he "prefers" the 43, doesnt mean he has to do it.

 

If reports are accurate, he was calling plays the final 3 weeks, and our 34 defense played much much better.

 

He's been running defenses for almost 30 years. Im sure he knows the 34.

 

Our 3-4 defense played better? They gave up 49 unanswered points in that last game.

[....lybob]

A heavily manipulated Draft-tek and a somewhat modest Free agency.

 

Free agency. The Bill resign their own good players and add Carl Nicks OG, Robert Meachem WR, Martellus Bennett TE

 

 

Bills trade 2nd and 3rd to move for Detroit's 1st (26 overall), extra 4th from Baltimore (Lee Evans), extra 5th from Seattle (Lynch). I put grabs in for Ingram and Osweiler, I also changed defensive priorities to reflect playing more 4-3.

 

1a. Quinton Coples DE

1b. Melvin Ingram DE

4a. T.Y. Hilton WR

4b. Tank Carder OLB

5a. Brock Osweiler QB

5b. Jordan White WR

6. Trumaine Johnson CB

7. Nathan Stupar OLB

[Buffalo Barbarian]

A heavily manipulated Draft-tek and a somewhat modest Free agency.

 

Free agency. The Bill resign their own good players and add Carl Nicks OG, Robert Meachem WR, Martellus Bennett TE

 

 

Bills trade 2nd and 3rd to move for Detroit's 1st (26 overall), extra 4th from Baltimore (Lee Evans), extra 5th from Seattle (Lynch). I put grabs in for Ingram and Osweiler, I also changed defensive priorities to reflect playing more 4-3.

 

1a. Quinton Coples DE

1b. Melvin Ingram DE

4a. T.Y. Hilton WR

4b. Tank Carder OLB

5a. Brock Osweiler QB

5b. Jordan White WR

6. Trumaine Johnson CB

7. Nathan Stupar OLB

 

 

Nice draft, not big coples fan but hopefully Bills could motivate him, Ingram is good too just not flashy, Hilton is a playmaker but lots of injuries, White would be a steal, Carder rocks and Stupar solid and who couldn't use a 6'8" QB.

[Kelly the Dog]

Our 3-4 defense played better? They gave up 49 unanswered points in that last game.

We played a 4-3 almost the entire game the last game.

[....lybob]

Nice draft, not big coples fan but hopefully Bills could motivate him, Ingram is good too just not flashy, Hilton is a playmaker but lots of injuries, White would be a steal, Carder rocks and Stupar solid and who couldn't use a 6'8" QB.

Thanks but I'm going to modify it based on what Nix said, How does this look

 

Bills trade 2nd and 3rd to move for Detroit's 1st (26 overall), extra 4th from Baltimore (Lee Evans), extra 5th from Seattle (Lynch). I put grabs in for Ingram and Osweiler, I also changed defensive priorities to reflect playing more 4-3.

 

1a. Quinton Coples DE Riley Reiff OT

1b. Melvin Ingram DE

4a. T.Y. Hilton WR Leonard Johnson CB

4b. Tank Carder OLB

5a. Brock Osweiler QB

5b. Jordan White WR

6. Trumaine Johnson CB

7. Nathan Stupar OLB

 

 

might as well change my free agency as well to an even more modest Jamaal Anderson DE,Robert Meachem WR, Martellus Bennett TE

Edited January 10, 2012 by ....lybob

[Buffalo Barbarian]

Thanks but I'm going to modify it based on what Nix said, How does this look

 

Bills trade 2nd and 3rd to move for Detroit's 1st (26 overall), extra 4th from Baltimore (Lee Evans), extra 5th from Seattle (Lynch). I put grabs in for Ingram and Osweiler, I also changed defensive priorities to reflect playing more 4-3.

 

1a. Quinton Coples DE Riley Reiff OT

1b. Melvin Ingram DE

4a. T.Y. Hilton WR Leonard Johnson CB

4b. Tank Carder OLB

5a. Brock Osweiler QB

5b. Jordan White WR

6. Trumaine Johnson CB

7. Nathan Stupar OLB

 

 

might as well change my free agency as well to an even more modest Jamaal Anderson DE,Robert Meachem WR, Martellus Bennett TE

Reiff would be a great pick but maybe Go with CB Dre Kirkpatrick who outplayed Morris Claiborne last night. Never saw Leonard Johnson play so don't know if he's good or not. Might go with LT Brandon Mosely in the fourth.