Alaska Darin Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 The IRS Sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RkFast Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Lots of people are lobbying hard for tax reform. They then typicallyy get put into ads wheeling gramma off a cliff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_In_Norfolk Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 The IRS Sucks 1) Now you are complaining about not enough taxes being raised? 2) You are sourcing a lame stream media outlet? 3) Did you even read this? While it's easy to be disconcerted over the size of the tax gap, two things are of note: The voluntary compliance rate among U.S. taxpayers has been fairly steady over the years, and Americans are among the best in the world at paying what they owe the tax man. Perhaps you should call the WGR "Whinner Line", you would fit right in cry baby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveinElma Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Don't let DC Tom see this article in the IRS article sidebar. http://money.cnn.com/2012/01/06/news/economy/black_unemployment_rate/index.htm As the economy slowly improved last year, the unemployment rate fell for both whites and Latinos. But at the end of the year the black unemployment rate was 15.8%, exactly where it started out 2011, according to the government's December jobs report released Friday. That's a sharp contrast to the white unemployment rate, which fell to 7.5% last month. The broad trend is unfortunately nothing new, said Bill Rodgers, chief economist with the Heldrich Center for Workforce Development at Rutgers University. The black unemployment rate has been roughly double that of whites since the government started tracking the figures in 1972. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted January 8, 2012 Author Share Posted January 8, 2012 1) Now you are complaining about not enough taxes being raised? Only you would come to that conclusion. My point is actually toward typical government incompetence. Simplify the tax code, simplify enforcement. Politicians won't do that, because it takes away their power and ability to curry influence. People like you are too stupid to force them to do it because you consistently believe the lies and blindly follow like the lemming you are. 2) You are sourcing a lame stream media outlet? I actually got the story from a subscription service, searched Google, and found a link the rest of you tools can actually get to. 3) Did you even read this? So I guess that means we can simplify the tax code and significantly reduce the size of government, right liberal retard? Trying making a germane point, you nefarious twit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 3) Did you even read this? Liberals are so funny. In spite of a significant tax shortfall, you suggest there is nothing really wrong since the article notes Americans are the best in the world at paying taxes, but when you see an article stating that Americans have the best health care in the world, it means we need to create an entirely new entitlement we can't afford to address a problem the entitlement will only make worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_In_Norfolk Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 How will reducing government make you happy? Does the fact that people cheat the he'll out of insurance companies prove to you that capitalism is inefficient? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 How will reducing government make you happy? Smaller government would eventually require a lot less money to operate. That's my money and your money. Having more money to do with what I want would make me very happy. How you cannot see that is mind boggling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 How will reducing government make you happy? Does the fact that people cheat the he'll out of insurance companies prove to you that capitalism is inefficient? How does big government make you happy? If you think capitalism is inefficient, then how would you describe massive government bureaucracy? Is there a word strong enough if capitalism is "inefficient"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_In_Norfolk Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 Smaller government would eventually require a lot less money to operate. That's my money and your money. Having more money to do with what I want would make me very happy. How you cannot see that is mind boggling. Oh, I see, you just want more money to spend. That's your whole argument, you need more...ummm..ok 1) How does big government make you happy? 2) If you think capitalism is inefficient, then how would you describe massive government bureaucracy? Is there a word strong enough if capitalism is "inefficient"? 1) In too many ways to explain. You guys have no idea of what the world would be like in a country with a minimalist government 2) You are a complete idiot. I was asking a question not making a statement about capitalism being ineffecient Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 (edited) Oh, I see, you just want more money to spend. That's your whole argument, you need more...ummm..ok 1) In too many ways to explain. You guys have no idea of what the world would be like in a country with a minimalist government 2) You are a complete idiot. I was asking a question not making a statement about capitalism being ineffecient Insightful as always Dave. Out of curiosity, how old are you? Edited January 10, 2012 by Jauronimo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 Oh, I see, you just want more money to spend. That's your whole argument, you need more...ummm..ok I said more money to do with what I want. That does not only mean spend. But aren't you the one that said having the government give us more money to spend helps the economy? I'm all for cutting out the middle man. And explain to me what's wrong with wanting/needing more. It does improve the quality of ones life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 Oh, I see, you just want more money to spend. That's your whole argument, you need more...ummm..ok If "having more money" wasn't a laudable goal, your ilk wouldn't be pushing for wealth redistribution, you dolt. 1) In too many ways to explain. You guys have no idea of what the world would be like in a country with a minimalist government 2) You are a complete idiot. I was asking a question not making a statement about capitalism being ineffecient He's not the one that thinks the government provides happiness to the people "in too many ways to explain". You are living !@#$ing proof that the Department of Education isn't worth their budget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 Oh, I see, you just want more money to spend. That's your whole argument, you need more...ummm..ok 1) In too many ways to explain. You guys have no idea of what the world would be like in a country with a minimalist government Start with your top three please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_In_Norfolk Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 Start with your top three please. Health care for the elderly A strong military which helps in so many ways Research and development Redistribution of wealth which keeps our consumer society running Civil Rights laws and for being a check against too much power for private concerns that might/do cheat, pollute and lie too much How would you deal with those things with a mini-government? I said more money to do with what I want. That does not only mean spend. But aren't you the one that said having the government give us more money to spend helps the economy? I'm all for cutting out the middle man. And explain to me what's wrong with wanting/needing more. It does improve the quality of ones life. The government makes enough for everyone to have, I like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 Health care for the elderly A strong military which helps in so many ways Research and development Redistribution of wealth which keeps our consumer society running Civil Rights laws and for being a check against too much power for private concerns that might/do cheat, pollute and lie too much How would you deal with those things with a mini-government? The government makes enough for everyone to have, I like that. In other words, you want a socialist state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 Health care for the elderly A strong military which helps in so many ways Research and development Redistribution of wealth which keeps our consumer society running Civil Rights laws and for being a check against too much power for private concerns that might/do cheat, pollute and lie too much How would you deal with those things with a mini-government? The government makes enough for everyone to have, I like that. So my social security (wife and I) will be about $5k a month. I'll want/need more than double that. So how does the government make enough money for everyone? Where did you get this term "mini-government"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 (edited) The government makes enough for everyone to have, I like that. How is taking a cut of what others have produced making anything? While you criticize the concept of small government with limited scope and interference in our daily lives, you may want to refresh yourself on the principles on which this nation was founded. Our government exists to protect our most basic liberties not to provide a lifestyle. It is the responsibility of our government to protect the sovereignty of our nation and our basic freedoms including free speech, religion, etc. Basically, to provide you with a framework in which you can go out and make your bones. The rest is on you. Why you and others want to take the concepts that made this country great and turn them against us will always be a mystery. Edited January 10, 2012 by Jauronimo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 How is taking a cut of what others have produced making anything? . Have you not been paying attention to Dave? The government makes money and gives it to us. Kind of like when you were little and you got $1 for cleaning the garage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Health care for the elderly A strong military which helps in so many ways Research and development Redistribution of wealth which keeps our consumer society running Civil Rights laws and for being a check against too much power for private concerns that might/do cheat, pollute and lie too much How would you deal with those things with a mini-government? The government makes enough for everyone to have, I like that. He said start with your top three. Further proof regarding the effectiveness of the Department of Education. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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