merlin Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 Interesting article about the Bills-Dolphins local TV blackout ... Bills-Dolphins local blackout an OUTRAGE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteCat Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 Interesting article about the Bills-Dolphins local TV blackout ... Bills-Dolphins local blackout an OUTRAGE He's right- "outrage" might be a little strong, but to require a sellout to view a game locally is petty, at best. There should be a threshold- maybe 85-90% of tickets sold to ensure local viewing. Or maybe no threshold- televise every game. After all, it's all about advertising dollars, and more people would be exposed to the ads. Win-win, right? Not likely.The NFL wants to sell you the sunday pass, or a season ticket. After all the blather during the lockout about taking care of the fans, it really comes down to the NFL squeezing every dollar out of the fan. I guess thats OK: they're a business, and the goal of any business is to make money. Just don't pretend it's all about the fans, Roger- go sell crazy somewhere else, we're all full here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 He's right- "outrage" might be a little strong, but to require a sellout to view a game locally is petty, at best. There should be a threshold- maybe 85-90% of tickets sold to ensure local viewing. Or maybe no threshold- televise every game. After all, it's all about advertising dollars, and more people would be exposed to the ads. Win-win, right? Not likely.The NFL wants to sell you the sunday pass, or a season ticket. After all the blather during the lockout about taking care of the fans, it really comes down to the NFL squeezing every dollar out of the fan. I guess thats OK: they're a business, and the goal of any business is to make money. Just don't pretend it's all about the fans, Roger- go sell crazy somewhere else, we're all full here! You have never really believed this, have you? It's just like when players say it's not about the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 (edited) He's right- "outrage" might be a little strong, but to require a sellout to view a game locally is petty, at best. There should be a threshold- maybe 85-90% of tickets sold to ensure local viewing. Or maybe no threshold- televise every game. After all, it's all about advertising dollars, and more people would be exposed to the ads. Win-win, right? Not likely.The NFL wants to sell you the sunday pass, or a season ticket. After all the blather during the lockout about taking care of the fans, it really comes down to the NFL squeezing every dollar out of the fan. I guess thats OK: they're a business, and the goal of any business is to make money. Just don't pretend it's all about the fans, Roger- go sell crazy somewhere else, we're all full here! As much as I want to agree with this, only way they are going to get enough(and I mean enough by their standards) advertising money out of it is when they change the jerseys from this: And then market them like this: Edited December 18, 2011 by The Wiz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agardin Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 I think a 90% capacity is reasonable. I know Bills fans like to think of Toronto as part of the Buffalo market when discussing Buffalo's market size as it pertains to possible relocation, but having the games blacked out in Toronto doesn't make a ton of sense. Toronto is 100 miles from Buffalo certainly outside the 75 mile radius and there is a matter that it is in a different country. Maybe they think we can take a boat across lake Ontario thereby putting Toronto within the 75 mile limit. Anyway, the new TV deal means that the actual attendance of these games is more important for TV optics than for than it is for its contribution to the bottom line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meathead Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 cities like chicago also get ridiculous amounts of money from their huge corporate base for their luxury boxes that are literally a hundred plus times what the bills can get here face it, the bills need the stadium full, which chicago could play in front of empty seats as long as their boxes were full as long as thats the case, which is likely forever, non-sellouts will be blacked out in our large stadium Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalScotts Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 I'd go if I could but I dont live in Buffalo but have made 3 road games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkrules Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 Interesting article about the Bills-Dolphins local TV blackout ... Bills-Dolphins local blackout an OUTRAGE It is tough to argue against the logic presented in this article, however this remains true. PUT A WINNING TEAM ON THE FIELD AND THE FANS WILL COME! The number of tickets sold is one factor, the number of people that actually show up is another. As a Season Ticket holder, this I know is true. I will not be at the game today. I tried to sell my tickets, no takers, I even tried to give them away, no takers. Bills fans have shown that if the team puts a winning product on the field they will support this team. Until that occurrs get used to the TV blackouts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Beard Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 (edited) I think a 90% capacity is reasonable. I know Bills fans like to think of Toronto as part of the Buffalo market when discussing Buffalo's market size as it pertains to possible relocation, but having the games blacked out in Toronto doesn't make a ton of sense. Toronto is 100 miles from Buffalo certainly outside the 75 mile radius and there is a matter that it is in a different country. Maybe they think we can take a boat across lake Ontario thereby putting Toronto within the 75 mile limit. Anyway, the new TV deal means that the actual attendance of these games is more important for TV optics than for than it is for its contribution to the bottom line. Syracuse is 150 miles from Buffalo and they get blacked out. Oh boy, the Bengals game! If that management understudy guy wants to increase the marketing power of the Bills, he should find out what it takes to determine the coverage of TV stations in neighboring markets and see if the blackout zones can be redefined. Edited December 18, 2011 by Gray Beard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy10 Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 I agree with most here. Hard to argue with the logic, but winning cures all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapaplayer Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 I give Ralphie plenty of money from property taxes I pay to add to the corporate welfare he gets from the morons running Erie County. I hate to think how much I personally paid towards this outrage, over the last 22 years I've owned my home. I don't recall EVER hearing a "Thank You" for my forced and totally unwilling support of this mess of a team. Never got a pair of tickets in the mail, never got even as much as a bumper sticker from the team. Personally - Ralph, you can take this pigsty of a team outta here tomorrow! Just freakin' go away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimKelly12 Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 Just sign up for DirecTV and their NFL to go package. I can watch the blacked out games on my computer. Sometimes on my iPad, and always on my phone. Not sure how this one slipped by the NFL but I'm watching this abortion of a game right now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offside Number 76 Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 As much as I want to agree with this, only way they are going to get enough(and I mean enough by their standards) advertising money out of it is when they change the jerseys from this: And then market them like this: It will happen at some point; it is inevitable. Likely in the NHL/NBA first, then the NFL. And about a decade after the NFL does it, MLB eventually will cave, just as it did with ads on the walls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 I give Ralphie plenty of money from property taxes I pay to add to the corporate welfare he gets from the morons running Erie County. I hate to think how much I personally paid towards this outrage, over the last 22 years I've owned my home. I don't recall EVER hearing a "Thank You" for my forced and totally unwilling support of this mess of a team. Never got a pair of tickets in the mail, never got even as much as a bumper sticker from the team. Personally - Ralph, you can take this pigsty of a team outta here tomorrow! Just freakin' go away. I have to pay school taxes for schools I have never and will never use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benderbender Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 I am so mad that we can't see our crappy team limp into the offseason. Ralph got his money though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy in 4C Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 Blacking out the game today was the NFL's Christmas gift to Bills fans - so they didn't have to see the disaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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