The Poojer Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Bernie Fine responds so far night and day difference between this and the way Penn State responded....and SU is responding in no uncertain terms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Bernie Fine responds so far night and day difference between this and the way Penn State responded....and SU is responding in no uncertain terms I don't know Poojer, that picture with the article shows Bernie touching a young person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 hahahahaha...i noticed that.... I don't know Poojer, that picture with the article shows Bernie touching a young person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 I knew Whitlock would rip ESPN for its story. I agree 100% with him. http://msn.foxsports.com/collegebasketball/story/bernie-fine-syracuse-story-irresposible-reporting-by-espn-112111 Alan Pergmanent has a similar take. I saw this tweet by Jerry Sullivan yesterday: TBNSully Jerry Sullivan I don't know how anyone could watch that Bobby Davis interview on ESPN, where he breaks down crying, and think he's lying about Bernie Fine. So, watched what I think is the interview he is talking about, and I didn't see any crying. I saw what Whitlock saw - "two vague, mumbling on-camera interviews from Fine’s accusers." Is there another interview that I missed? Here's the Pergmanet article: http://networkedblogs.com/qkYmB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOBILLS78 Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 Alan Pergmanent has a similar take. I saw this tweet by Jerry Sullivan yesterday: TBNSully Jerry Sullivan I don't know how anyone could watch that Bobby Davis interview on ESPN, where he breaks down crying, and think he's lying about Bernie Fine. So, watched what I think is the interview he is talking about, and I didn't see any crying. I saw what Whitlock saw - "two vague, mumbling on-camera interviews from Fine’s accusers." Is there another interview that I missed? Here's the Pergmanet article: http://networkedblogs.com/qkYmB Yes, I saw the interview with a crying Davis yesterday morning. The interview was split --- breaking news/OTL tease, and then the OTL story, which I believe had the crying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 i like both of those articles....too many questions that make this story stink to high heaven...one thing that no one seems to be seriously questioning ad nauseum is that the 'mother' said davis never flew to any games, yet davis claims he was at a tourney in hawaii....way way way too many inconsistencies..... Alan Pergmanent has a similar take. I saw this tweet by Jerry Sullivan yesterday: TBNSully Jerry Sullivan I don't know how anyone could watch that Bobby Davis interview on ESPN, where he breaks down crying, and think he's lying about Bernie Fine. So, watched what I think is the interview he is talking about, and I didn't see any crying. I saw what Whitlock saw - "two vague, mumbling on-camera interviews from Fine’s accusers." Is there another interview that I missed? Here's the Pergmanet article: http://networkedblogs.com/qkYmB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills44 Posted November 22, 2011 Author Share Posted November 22, 2011 Sully.....always the douche. I think that Davis crying was due to withdrawal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 Why is secret service involved? from the little I have read, the secret service only investigates: 'Use of new technology as a means to commit crime' - that doesn't really sound like it would apply to pornography...perhaps it could mean possible blackmail via email(?). The rest of their jurisdiction appears to involve acts violating the treasury and protection of certain people in our society... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 Why is secret service involved? from the little I have read, the secret service only investigates: 'Use of new technology as a means to commit crime' - that doesn't really sound like it would apply to pornography...perhaps it could mean possible blackmail via email(?). The rest of their jurisdiction appears to involve acts violating the treasury and protection of certain people in our society... From your bolded part, possibly child porn on a computer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 but that would be more FBI jurisdiction, not secret service....is it???? From your bolded part, possibly child porn on a computer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 but that would be more FBI jurisdiction, not secret service....is it???? I don't know, maybe DC Tom can let us know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 yeah...like he knows anything about this subject... I don't know, maybe DC Tom can let us know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 (edited) 3rd accuser comes forward... yet once again, no witness, no evidence...oh and btw...this one is facing sexual assault charges on a 14 year old boy....fwiw WTF...his wife is on tape saying she thinks he did it??? worse yet...laura fine was banging davis...the original accuser :wallbash: Edited November 27, 2011 by The Poojer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaattMaann Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 Syracuse should do exactly what Penn St. did, fire Boheim for letting this predator roam their sidelines and abuse their ball boys for over 30 years...what a shame.... However very many of you same people who jumped all over Joe Paterno/Penn St./McQuery for their handling of the Sandusky abuses will just defend your little Syracuse basketball program and make the poor abused crack head out to be the real perp. while the monster continues to feed on abusing boys...sadd sadd sadddd how being a fan of one program completely changes your outlook on a situation "I hate Penn St., Sandusky is a monster and everyone should get fired, tarred and feathered" "I love Syracuse, nobody has done anything wrong here! That boy deserved the sexual abuse he got from Fine!" ohhhh the sick double standards....fire away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 what double standards? there has been no grand jury investigation...2 investigations turned up nothing....there are no corroborating witnesses...except a set of step brothers that are both accusers #1 & #2. now we have 3 alleged victims, the 3rd of which has 2 charges against minors against him, and who's own father denies the basic allegations(going to pittsburg, going to a party at fine's house....oh and just to make it all neater...one of the alleged victims was banging the accusee's wife(the same wife that is now on tape saying how she believes her husband is guilty - perhaps a nice convenient story to get out a marriage) and i am certain this tape was disclosed during the first 2 investigations.....if it is proven that bernie fine is guilty, I will stand at the top of Mt. Olympus(the one on su campus) and blast away....until then, this sounds fishier and fishier as the days progress.... Syracuse should do exactly what Penn St. did, fire Boheim for letting this predator roam their sidelines and abuse their ball boys for over 30 years...what a shame.... However very many of you same people who jumped all over Joe Paterno/Penn St./McQuery for their handling of the Sandusky abuses will just defend your little Syracuse basketball program and make the poor abused crack head out to be the real perp. while the monster continues to feed on abusing boys...sadd sadd sadddd how being a fan of one program completely changes your outlook on a situation "I hate Penn St., Sandusky is a monster and everyone should get fired, tarred and feathered" "I love Syracuse, nobody has done anything wrong here! That boy deserved the sexual abuse he got from Fine!" ohhhh the sick double standards....fire away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 Also, has anybody implicated Boeheim with knowledge of the alleged abuse? Some people hide their skeletons better than others... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaattMaann Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 and you probably bleed Orange and blue the ole saying goes "where theres smoke, theres fire" 3rd accuser molests children bc he was molested, classic progression how does 3rd accuser know the layout of Fines home if he was never there, like his father insists...I highly doubt that his wife would admit in a taped phone convo (that she didnt know was being taped) that she believed her husband was a pedophile JUST to make herself feel better about sleeping with the guy, I dont get how that makes sense you dont see how you are believing the ACCUSED in this situation b/c its convenient, and b/c you are a fan of that particular team? and where was it reported there were two other investigations that turned up nothing? I honestly havent seen that...all Ive seen is reports that syracuse police have FAILED to act on allegations in the past....perhaps a link and I could become more informed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 Yeah I absolutely bleed orange... there are lots of old sayings that are horse sh** the wife could have needed a neat little alibi to cover her ass in leaving him...she leaves because she's cheating, she gets no $$..she leaves because he is allegedly fondling kids...she sings all the way to the bank... I support the accused because he was never found to have committed any of these allegations... Let's see what the secret service turns up...at this point i will lay my life savings(don't get excited..i don't have any savings ) that the secret service is there in their treasury department capacity and not in child porn capacity...i think bernie fine was being shaken down for money, across state lines.... there were investigations in 2002 and 2005 that didn't warrant anything going to the grand jury for futher investigation...the police to my knowledge never failed to act on anything..rather, when the charges were brought to them, they, rightfully so(with my limited knowledge of the law) informed the accuser that the statute of limitations were up and there was nothing they could do... syracuse.com is full of related stories... but again, we will wait and see. and you probably bleed Orange and blue the ole saying goes "where theres smoke, theres fire" 3rd accuser molests children bc he was molested, classic progression how does 3rd accuser know the layout of Fines home if he was never there, like his father insists...I highly doubt that his wife would admit in a taped phone convo (that she didnt know was being taped) that she believed her husband was a pedophile JUST to make herself feel better about sleeping with the guy, I dont get how that makes sense you dont see how you are believing the ACCUSED in this situation b/c its convenient, and b/c you are a fan of that particular team? and where was it reported there were two other investigations that turned up nothing? I honestly havent seen that...all Ive seen is reports that syracuse police have FAILED to act on allegations in the past....perhaps a link and I could become more informed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaattMaann Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 Yeah I absolutely bleed orange... there are lots of old sayings that are horse sh** the wife could have needed a neat little alibi to cover her ass in leaving him...she leaves because she's cheating, she gets no $$..she leaves because he is allegedly fondling kids...she sings all the way to the bank... I support the accused because he was never found to have committed any of these allegations... Let's see what the secret service turns up...at this point i will lay my life savings(don't get excited..i don't have any savings ) that the secret service is there in their treasury department capacity and not in child porn capacity...i think bernie fine was being shaken down for money, across state lines.... there were investigations in 2002 and 2005 that didn't warrant anything going to the grand jury for futher investigation...the police to my knowledge never failed to act on anything..rather, when the charges were brought to them, they, rightfully so(with my limited knowledge of the law) informed the accuser that the statute of limitations were up and there was nothing they could do... syracuse.com is full of related stories... but again, we will wait and see. the wife wanting to get money theory doesnt hold up since she also cheated, with the very same man (Jerry...Jerry...Jerry) I still havent found anything about 2002 and 2005 investigations, in fact the only thing I found is that the police would not investigate at those times b/c of statute of limitations rules, so they "had no grounds" to investigate, so at both times that accusers came forward in those years, the police said "nah, been to long" (that is NOT an investigation) that is on the espn home page right now under "3rd accuser" link... Sandusky still hasent been found guilty of his charges either, bet you dont feel the same way about his charges (oh yea, because there was no grand jury blah blah, technically both men are still innocent in the eyes of the law)..point is, ya cant call one a dirt bag while going to the mattresses to defend another (and im not saying YOU specifically Poojer, just all in general who were up in arms over the Penn St. scandal but are vehemently singing the praises of Fine) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffOrange Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 However very many of you same people who jumped all over Joe Paterno/Penn St./McQuery for their handling of the Sandusky abuses will just defend your little Syracuse basketball program and make the poor abused crack head out to be the real perp. while the monster continues to feed on abusing boys...sadd sadd sadddd how being a fan of one program completely changes your outlook on a situation "I hate Penn St., Sandusky is a monster and everyone should get fired, tarred and feathered" "I love Syracuse, nobody has done anything wrong here! That boy deserved the sexual abuse he got from Fine!" ohhhh the sick double standards....fire away Making up quotes and criticizing double standard fan reactions that haven't happened yet...congratulations, that might be a first even for the internet. Your obsession with Boeheim is a little scary; did he throw it in your girlfriend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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