John Cocktosten Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 (edited) But if you'd rather have more Kelsay's, then I guess that's your prerogative. You tell me what this means? I can't wait for the explanation Edited October 3, 2011 by John Cocktosten Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 You tell me what this means? I can't wait for the explanation It means, if you think the Bills are suddenly going to move away form the bigger, more versatile DE's that they seem to prefer, and if you want them to instead go get a guy who is often noted for not taking care of his responsibilities on the field, then that's your choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Cocktosten Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 It means, if you think the Bills are suddenly going to move away form the bigger, more versatile DE's that they seem to prefer, and if you want them to instead go get a guy who is often noted for not taking care of his responsibilities on the field, then that's your choice. I needed a new signature, thanks! So the Bills can't rush the QB or play the run very well. Are you saying that they wouldn't be better with Osi's 11.5 sacks and his 10 FFs from last year? Makes sense Simon. Kelsay and Merriman 2010 + 2011: 4.5 sacks and 1 FF. But Osi wouldn't fit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsForever Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 (edited) I would take OSI in a heartbeat if the price was right. That being not giving up a first round pick. There is no one on the Bills roster that can attack the QB quite like him. For sure an improvement over our other ends. The quote about our ends being geared towards the run and better than OSI in that regard is a joke. Edited October 3, 2011 by BuffaloBillsForever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thoner7 Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Does he play 43 end or 34 LB in this dream? Rushing the passer is rushing the passer is rushing the passer. Kelsay and Merriman play with their hand down but are linebackers. Sometimes they stand up. It really makes no difference Hell, I have seen Dareus take the outside rush position standing up in the alst two games. If Osi is his old self he is a stud. We arent giving up any of those draft picks for him though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 I live in the NYC area and rumor has it that Osi plays today at AZ. They were speculating it could be a showcase game for a pre-deadline trade. I believe,as many do on this board, that a big time pass rush may get us playoff-bound+++. Yes he's older and coming off knee surgery....but having watched a lot of giants games, he's a big play Machine . You know where I'm going....would you? How much? Is he a 3-4 player? Etc. Since we don't really play a 34 he would be a great fit. Those big powerful DEs aren't sniffing the QB. For the 3rd week in a row a QB sat in the pocket and torched us. Btw, who are these big powerful DEs that you speak of? Merriman is playing more DE than LB and Kelsay is well....Kelsay. If you can get Osi for a 4th, do it in a heartbeat. I'm not saying Osi would be great but he would be the edge rusher on this team right away. Another thing Simon, our DEs lost contain about 100 times today. So that "attacking" the groung game ain't working either. Brain trust decided to activate invisible Troupe over effective Heard who would have helped the run D immensely. I'm trying to figure out if he's one of those big powerful run stuffing DEs that Simon is talking about. At least he got some pressure today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Those big powerful DEs aren't sniffing the QB. For the 3rd week in a row a QB sat in the pocket and torched us. Btw, who are these big powerful DEs that you speak of? Merriman is playing more DE than LB and Kelsay is well....Kelsay. If you can get Osi for a 4th, do it in a heartbeat. I'm not saying Osi would be great but he would be the edge rusher on this team right away. Another thing Simon, our DEs lost contain about 100 times today. So that "attacking" the groung game ain't working either. Well said. If you can get Osi for a 4th, you do it. It's a no-brainer. He's better than what we have, and we need to start getting to the QB's and stopping other teams from pushing us all over the field. I needed a new signature, thanks! So the Bills can't rush the QB or play the run very well. Are you saying that they wouldn't be better with Osi's 11.5 sacks and his 10 FFs from last year? Makes sense Simon. Kelsay and Merriman 2010 + 2011: 4.5 sacks and 1 FF. But Osi wouldn't fit! Some people love mediocoracy apperantly. Your numbers can't be argued with. We need Osi and Wannstead as D coordinator. Watching what the Ravens are doing on D right now is amazing. Yes, they have better players (which Osi will help with) but it would also be nice to have a D coordinator who actually had the D attacking instead of waiting back to see what the offense is going to throw at them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Well said. If you can get Osi for a 4th, you do it. It's a no-brainer. He's better than what we have, and we need to start getting to the QB's and stopping other teams from pushing us all over the field. I didn't realize osi was a 4, and no big money deal. If so simple of course but...... I suspect no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QB Bills Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 No way you get him for a 4th. Good pass rushers command a premium. Would be a hell of a pickup though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsForever Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 (edited) No way you get him for a 4th. Good pass rushers command a premium. Would be a hell of a pickup though. Agree. Osi is one heck of a player. If we can't get him straight up for a 2nd round pick or a combo 2 and 3 I would be all over that. Edited October 3, 2011 by BuffaloBillsForever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Cocktosten Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Agree. Osi is one heck of a player. If we can't get him straight up for a 2nd round pick or a combo 2 and 3 I would be all over that. Simon doesn't want another Kelsay. He doesn't fit the system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsForever Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Simon doesn't want another Kelsay. He doesn't fit the system. LOL Comparing Osi to Kelsay is the worst football comparison EVER. Two totally different football players. Kelsay is not even a starting caliber DE or LB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Cocktosten Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 LOL Comparing Osi to Kelsay is the worst football comparison EVER. Two totally different football players. Kelsay is not even a starting caliber DE or LB. If you were 12 beers into the night your opinion would be different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Osi cow manure isn't the answer. We have too many holes to fill and this isn't likely our year to be playing in February. to be dropping draft picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsForever Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 (edited) If you were 12 beers into the night your opinion would be different. Probably not. I'm into the Gin at this time of the year. Alcohol doesn't make me delusional especially comparing a player that has a history of being an elite pass rusher (OSI) to an average at best Kelsay. Average being used rather loose. Edited October 3, 2011 by BuffaloBillsForever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 If you were 12 beers into the night your opinion would be different. Once again I've had zero beers today, yet once again I get to listen to you running your mouth about me and trying to get others to do the same. And all because I don't want the Bills to spend draft picks and a giant pile of money on a 4-3 End who won't play the run while the Bills are trying to build a 3-4 system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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