Canadian Bills Fan Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 This is what a fan wrote to John Clayton. To read the whole article here is the link http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=clayton_john&id=6472676 Q: If the NFL owners feel the judge's rulings have damaged the game beyond repair, can't they just dissolve the league, kick out some of the weak sisters like Cincinnati and Buffalo, form a new league with the rules in place THEY want, and tell the players if they don't like it they don't have to join? If the current players don't sign up for it, there will be 10,000 people just waiting for a chance to play. Wouldn't that threat force the players to stop this nonsense and get an agreement in place? Sean in South San Francisco Claytons response: A: Would you pay $100 a game to see 10,000 people just waiting to play the game? You want to see the best of the best. Remember, players aren't just the employees. They are also the product. If you lessen the quality of the employees, you lessen the quality of the product. Plus, the league is making too much money to kick out teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 And the point is? Ah hell. Sorry fig. I just realized I am in a super pissy mood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted May 5, 2011 Author Share Posted May 5, 2011 And the point is? Ah hell. Sorry fig. I just realized I am in a super pissy mood. No worries buddy. What I thought was stupid that someone actually thought a solution would be to dissolve the league and actually kick teams out. lol its not a club where you can kick out members Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernMan Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 This is what a fan wrote to John Clayton. To read the whole article here is the link http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=clayton_john&id=6472676 Q: If the NFL owners feel the judge's rulings have damaged the game beyond repair, can't they just dissolve the league, kick out some of the weak sisters like Cincinnati and Buffalo, form a new league with the rules in place THEY want, and tell the players if they don't like it they don't have to join? If the current players don't sign up for it, there will be 10,000 people just waiting for a chance to play. Wouldn't that threat force the players to stop this nonsense and get an agreement in place? Sean in South San Francisco Claytons response: A: Would you pay $100 a game to see 10,000 people just waiting to play the game? You want to see the best of the best. Remember, players aren't just the employees. They are also the product. If you lessen the quality of the employees, you lessen the quality of the product. Plus, the league is making too much money to kick out teams. Beyond the stupid "weak sisters" statement by the questioner, Clayton's comments are kind of stupid also. Those "10,000" (slight exaggeration) waiting to play, would without a doubt be primarily the more elite former college players. Aren't patrons already paying well over $100 a game to see Div I college teams that have even less talent than the hypothetical league comprised of all-stars? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 Weak sisters? Buffalo and Cincinnati have two of the more profitable, stable franchises in the league, and that's what the owners and players really value. If you want to cut teams that aren't performing, you'd probably be folding Detroit or Miami (teams that had an operating net loss) or the heavily leveraged teams on a path of unsustainable debt service like the Jets where an increasing majority of their cash just goes to paying off debt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 (edited) Still not dumber than "Why not Palmer?". Edited May 5, 2011 by Mr. WEO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 Weak sisters? Buffalo and Cincinnati have two of the more profitable, stable franchises in the league, and that's what the owners and players really value. If you want to cut teams that aren't performing, you'd probably be folding Detroit or Miami (teams that had an operating net loss) or the heavily leveraged teams on a path of unsustainable debt service like the Jets where an increasing majority of their cash just goes to paying off debt. What, no love for Jacksonville and the cash flowing through that team? If theres one team that should be right at the top of the list of weak franchises to fold, its them. The only reason Buffalo is considered "unstable" at this point is because the owner is in his 90's and the plan after he is gone is to sell the team to the highest bidder. Otherwise they may be the most stable franchise with an owner who owns his team 100%, and a stadium (albeit old and could use replacing or a MAJOR renovation to bring in more revenue) thats paid for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PDaDdy Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 Beyond the stupid "weak sisters" statement by the questioner, Clayton's comments are kind of stupid also. Those "10,000" (slight exaggeration) waiting to play, would without a doubt be primarily the more elite former college players. Aren't patrons already paying well over $100 a game to see Div I college teams that have even less talent than the hypothetical league comprised of all-stars? I think in general as with everything want to see the best of the best. How many of us watch mens basketball but don't watch womens basket ball? Same game if you like it you should watch it. People do want to see the best of the best and that is why we buy jerseys, hats and tickets. If all people wanted to watch was football there is the CFL, the UFL and arena leagues. Why aren't they nearly as popular....best of the best. The players ARE the product as much as they are the employees. We forget this when we B word about them wanting to make money. It's a business! That being said both sides need to come to an agreement to get things moving. An idea that should be thrown out there is the idea of profit sharing and stock. Get the players invested in the franchise. When the franchise makes money the players make money. If the franchise doesn't make money the players don't make money. No owner wants to open the books to their private company but it would solve a lot of issues. Public or private these guys have to file tax returns? That could be a fair compromise instead of opening every detail of the books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 In this purely hypothetical scenario of blowing up the league and getting all new players, I'd say that if this did happen, probably at least half of the current players would come back. The rest would be guys that usually get cut on the last cut of pre season. Within a couple of years, the quality of play would be equal to what it was before. Then instead of charging $100 for a ticket, they could charge $50. That is if the owners would really do that. They'd probably just pay the players less and keep the delta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bladiebla Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 Disolving and restarting the league would open the road for competition, and competition there will be then. Investors will jump for the opportunity to setup a new league, give the players what they want and sign 90% of all the big names. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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