Peter Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 Gailey is on to Lee Evans judging by his comments in the Buffalo News today. Gailey: Evans needs to run better routes and underneath routes It looks like we might finally see whether Lee Evans can be a complete receiver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeyBomb Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 I seriously LOVE how Gailey hands out criticism liberally amongst each and every player when deserved. He doesn't hold back and is a no non sense coach that demands attention to detail. And if not you are pretty much of the team if you don't make the cut. Instead of all of these false hopes and dreams like Maybin and Whitner. Love him. Night and day from Jauron, and yeah, I know a lot of you feel the same way and probably think my words are obvious and do not need mentioning. But you wouldn't BELIEVE how many of my dumb friends I still have in Buffalo (moved) that think Gailey and Nix are just a bunch of dumb hicks that don't know what they are doing and that think they are just going to get fired in 2-3 years with out making the play offs. I'm sick of it. I am over joyed with Gailey and Nix. Really couldn't be happier. But on to Evans. You are right. Gailey is on to him. Evans is a 1 trick pony. Run really fast and get by the defender and hope Fitz can get you the ball. THAT'S IT!!! I would like to see him gone for a 3rd to tell you the truth. Of course I would want something higher in value, but let's be realistic here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frostbelt City Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 In Gailey We Trust Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 I seriously LOVE how Gailey hands out criticism liberally amongst each and every player when deserved. He doesn't hold back and is a no non sense coach that demands attention to detail. And if not you are pretty much of the team if you don't make the cut. Instead of all of these false hopes and dreams like Maybin and Whitner. Love him. Night and day from Jauron, and yeah, I know a lot of you feel the same way and probably think my words are obvious and do not need mentioning. But you wouldn't BELIEVE how many of my dumb friends I still have in Buffalo (moved) that think Gailey and Nix are just a bunch of dumb hicks that don't know what they are doing and that think they are just going to get fired in 2-3 years with out making the play offs. I'm sick of it. I am over joyed with Gailey and Nix. Really couldn't be happier. But on to Evans. You are right. Gailey is on to him. Evans is a 1 trick pony. Run really fast and get by the defender and hope Fitz can get you the ball. THAT'S IT!!! I would like to see him gone for a 3rd to tell you the truth. Of course I would want something higher in value, but let's be realistic here. I wasn't thrilled with the Nix/Gailey at first, but I have really come to like Gailey a lot, for the reasons you mention. However, it remains to be seen if the Bills are "finally getting it right", or if there is going to be more of the same. They didn't improve in the win column, which is the utltimate way they will, and should, be judged. I think they are on to something, but the Bills haven't earned completely earned my trust yet...for me, the jury is still very much out on Nix as GM. He says lots of funny things and all, but lets see some results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 Maybe Evans hasn't been able to do much underneath, because when he goes over the middle, we don't have another guy to challenge the defense deep. Fans always like players to be called out publicly, but it usually doesn't push the player to be better. Personally, I prefer to be challenged privately, instead of being publicly embarrassed. Shows how little fans truly understand about coaching, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 here are Lee's stats last year as far as how long passes to him were: Margin 0-7 21 287 13.7 Margin 15+ 6 150 25.0 Margin 8-14 10 141 14.1 If I'm reading this correctly, a large majority (21 of 37) were thrown to him less than 8 yards past the line of scrimmage. So much for only being able to go long. In the article I saw Coach Gailey say "He's been more of a deep threat," Gailey said. "I've got to get him to do a better job of becoming an underneath threat. I've got to do a better job of that." Nowhere did I see him say Lee sux and is lazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfreak Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 Gailey is on to Lee Evans judging by his comments in the Buffalo News today. Gailey: Evans needs to run better routes and underneath routes It looks like we might finally see whether Lee Evans can be a complete receiver. We won't until we get a complete quarterback! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted March 23, 2011 Author Share Posted March 23, 2011 here are Lee's stats last year as far as how long passes to him were: Margin 0-7 21 287 13.7 Margin 15+ 6 150 25.0 Margin 8-14 10 141 14.1 If I'm reading this correctly, a large majority (21 of 37) were thrown to him less than 8 yards past the line of scrimmage. So much for only being able to go long. In the article I saw Coach Gailey say "He's been more of a deep threat," Gailey said. "I've got to get him to do a better job of becoming an underneath threat. I've got to do a better job of that." Nowhere did I see him say Lee sux and is lazy. I am looking forward to seeing whether Lee Evans can become a complete receiver and go over the middle. I do not think that the quick passes to the outside are what Chan was referring to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 We won't until we get a complete quarterback! You're kidding right? Johnson, Nelson and Roosevelt didn't have any trouble getting open and catching passes from Fitzpatrick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeyBomb Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 (edited) Maybe Evans hasn't been able to do much underneath, because when he goes over the middle, we don't have another guy to challenge the defense deep. Fans always like players to be called out publicly, but it usually doesn't push the player to be better. Personally, I prefer to be challenged privately, instead of being publicly embarrassed. Shows how little fans truly understand about coaching, Adam, if you need challenged. There is probably a work ethic issue. If you NEED to be challenged privately, that is probably a personal problem. This game isn't a "behind the scenes" type of game anymore. If you can't take what coaches, personnel, other players, media or other fans say about you, then you are a weak individual. So fans need to know who is progressing and who isn't. That's good coaching. Especially when you can do it in a manner of not throwing that player completely under the bus. It's not like he's belittling these players. So relax on the fans don't know about coaching comments old school. Edited March 23, 2011 by DukeyBomb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smuvtalker Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 You're kidding right? Johnson, Nelson and Roosevelt didn't have any trouble getting open and catching passes from Fitzpatrick. And the one year TO was here, he totally outshined Lee..... Bottom line is, Lee is not a #1 receiver, and I applaud Chan for speaking up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 Adam, if you need challenged. There is probably a work ethic issue. If you NEED to be challenged privately, that is probably a personal problem. This game isn't a "behind the scenes" type of game anymore. If you can't take what coaches, personnel, other players, media or other fans say about you, then you are a weak individual. So fans need to know who is progressing and who isn't. That's good coaching. Especially when you can do it in a manner of not throwing that player completely under the bus. It's not like he's belittling these players. So relax on the fans don't know about coaching comments old school. Fans understand more about the technical aspects of coaching than they did in the past, but they don't understand the other aspects as well. Players get called out enough in the media, without having the guy who oversees them calling them out. I also stand by my previous comments about not sending our only deep threat over the middle- it is pointless. You need another deep threat to send Evans over the middle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 And the one year TO was here, he totally outshined Lee..... Bottom line is, Lee is not a #1 receiver, and I applaud Chan for speaking up... So is Chan setting the stage for an AJ Green pick at #3? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeyBomb Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 So is Chan setting the stage for an AJ Green pick at #3? I want to laugh but don't want to insult. Was that a serious question? Because I doubt it to tell you the truth. He can't be that DUMB to think we should spend a top 3 pick on a position that we actually have some depth at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWings Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 (edited) Adam, if you need challenged. There is probably a work ethic issue. If you NEED to be challenged privately, that is probably a personal problem. This game isn't a "behind the scenes" type of game anymore. If you can't take what coaches, personnel, other players, media or other fans say about you, then you are a weak individual. So fans need to know who is progressing and who isn't. That's good coaching. Especially when you can do it in a manner of not throwing that player completely under the bus. It's not like he's belittling these players. So relax on the fans don't know about coaching comments old school. Perhaps we can define public and private. Being challenged privately tells me that the coach has a one-on-one conversation with the player and telling that he needs to be better. You can still be challenged publicly without this getting to the media/fans. I've never played organized football, but I would imagine that if you're being called out in front of your teammates, THAT would be pretty embarrassing...thus, quite motivating. Edited March 23, 2011 by BuffaloWings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfreak Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 (edited) You're kidding right? Johnson, Nelson and Roosevelt didn't have any trouble getting open and catching passes from Fitzpatrick. I am quite sure that Evans caught a few more passes than Nelson or Roosevelt did, and dropped many less than Stone Hands Johnson did. Also, getting open is only half of the reception equation-the quarterback has to throw it to you and half way accurate too. So is Chan setting the stage for an AJ Green pick at #3? If Chan and Buddy pick anyone at #3 other than a future franchise quarterback, they both will deserve to be working in the UFL with Marty. Edited March 23, 2011 by billsfreak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDD Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 (edited) In Gailey We Trust Third worst team in the NFL. Didn't some say the same thing about Marv? And why didn't Gailey, who runs the offense, design more plays to get the ball in Lee's hands including underneath routes. This is just utter stupidity Edited March 23, 2011 by Mr. Wonderful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 (edited) I want to laugh but don't want to insult. Was that a serious question? Because I doubt it to tell you the truth. He can't be that DUMB to think we should spend a top 3 pick on a position that we actually have some depth at. He's a solid citizen type like Patrick Peterson and Von Miller. I don't think it's crazy to think that the Bills would take a great player who has zero character concerns at #3. If Peterson is off the board and the Bills are hell bent on having zero character issues, then Miller and Green are in the conversation at #3. Edited March 23, 2011 by 1billsfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfreak Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 In Gailey We Trust It doesn't take much to get your trust does it? I am not trusting anyone that took a 6 win team and turned it into a 4 win team. Seems like maybe he is going in the wrong direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 I am quite sure that Evans caught a few more passes than Nelson or Roosevelt did, and dropped many less than Stone Hands Johnson did. Also, getting open is only half of the reception equation-the quarterback has to throw it to you and half way accurate too. If Chan and Buddy pick anyone at #3 other than a future franchise quarterback, they both will deserve to be working in the UFL with Marty. Johnson = 87 receptions Evans = 37 receptions So you're saying that the problem is Fitzpatrick wasn't able to throw the ball accurately to Lee Evans when he clearly hit Johnson all season long?????...LMAO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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