VirginiaMike Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Anyone who watched the Bills this year has to know the Bills need to fix the defense. Their run defense may be the worst I've seen in the NFL in a long time. If we had the #1 pick I could see going for Luck, but don't give up picks to get him, we need too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPCinTULLY Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 If Luck comes out the Bills should break the bank and try to get him. It's been since '96 since this team had a franchise QB. Long overdue!! I know there are plenty of needs but I say a QB should be numero UNO! the team has a franchise qb...fitz proved it today by not being in there!(with an assit from brohm by being in there) ..he makes all around him better..he has guts,brains and one hell of a beard! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marauderswr80 Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 for a franchise that's trying to rebuild through the draft last thing they will do is trade away picks...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumbalaya Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 many are saying he his the best QB prospect in years. IF thats true then he is worth making a move for. IF that is true Carolina knows it too and will not trade for anything we have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bzee Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Nick Fairley We'll draft a punter with our #1 pick Go Buddy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K Gun Special Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 IF that is true Carolina knows it too and will not trade for anything we have. exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1B4IDie Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 (edited) many are saying he his the best QB prospect in years. IF thats true then he is worth making a move for. Think about that for two seconds. A team that has tons of needs with tons of great talent in the 2nd and 3rd round in this year's draft, you decide to trade up to get an incrementally better prospect than the other QB prospects in the draft. That would be an idea that would set your franchise back. Edited January 3, 2011 by Why So Serious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Brohm put up huge numbers in Petrino's QB friendly system. Mallett has put up huge numbers in Petrino's QB friendly system. See where I'm going with this? You're saying Brohm is our franchise QB, right?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stony Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 IF that is true Carolina knows it too and will not trade for anything we have. Yeah, it sucks, but today should be the last of the 'draft Luck' talk. If he comes out, he goes #1 no matter what. No team trades away it's first pick if it has a prospect the media has wet themselves over as much as him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 (edited) ive said it several times, 1st round QBs get teams to super bowls and win them. this team will never seriously compete for that goal until they have a better QB. Looking at the previous decade, 5 Super Bowls were won by 4 1st round QBs: Rothlesburgher x2 Manning the Elder Manning the Younger Trent Dilfer (but not for the team that drafted him) The rest were won by a 2nd (Brees), a 9th (Brad Johnson), and 3 by a 6th rounder (whose name I shall not utter). Brees and Johnson won their Super Bowls for teams that did not draft them Edited January 3, 2011 by /dev/null Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K Gun Special Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Think about that for two seconds. A team that has tons of needs with tons of great talent in the 2nd and 3rd round in this year's draft, you decide to trade up to get an incrementally better prospect than the other QB prospects in the draft. That would be an idea that would set your franchise back. re read the post....if hes the best in years he sets your franchise at the most important position on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 many are saying he his the best QB prospect in years. IF thats true then he is worth making a move for. If that is true, we'll find out when he returns to Stanford and leads them to a national title next season. And - if that is true - get ready for another season of, " We need to lose every game so we can draft Andy Luck! " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USMCBillsFan Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Number 4 pick. Goes by strength of schedule so Denver gets number 2 with Cincy in the 3 spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bzee Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Here we go again with the QB 1st round talk. Behind this O line with no supporting defense a 1st round QB will be a bust. Period. OK let's keep Fitz again and be 5-11 next year. We need a franchise QB already! We could've had Vick playing for us right now remember when he was a FA, but you probably wanted Trent instead right? If we don't get a franchise QB we're going to suck for another 11 years guys "COME ON MAN". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K Gun Special Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Looking at the previous decade, 5 Super Bowls were won by 4 1st round QBs: Rothlesburgher x2 Manning the Elder Manning the Younger Trent Dilfer (but not for the team that drafted him) The rest were won by a 2nd (Brees), a 9th (Brad Johnson), and 3 by a 6th rounder (whose name I shall not utter). Brees and Johnson won their Super Bowls for teams that did not draft them go back and look further, find a super bowl since 1983 or 1984 that did not have at least one 1st round QB, yea others get there and win it, but theres almost always a premier 1st round QB. If that is true, we'll find out when he returns to Stanford and leads them to a national title next season. And - if that is true - get ready for another season of, " We need to lose every game so we can draft Andy Luck! " They wont win a national title, Harbaugh is likely gone and they didnt have the other pieces anyway. we all know you think luck will stay in but you also said Leach was bound for maryland since he was their guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted January 3, 2011 Author Share Posted January 3, 2011 If that is true, we'll find out when he returns to Stanford and leads them to a national title next season. And - if that is true - get ready for another season of, " We need to lose every game so we can draft Andy Luck! " if he was my son...i would tell him to come out.... - he might avoid a rookie wage scale in 2012 - even if there is a lockout in 2011, he wouldn't get paid by going back to school either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkc Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 To get the number one overall. Swap first rounders with the Panthers throw in Lee evans and next years 3rd. That should be enough...Throw Maybin in too. That is plenty. please the price will be this year 1 and 2 and next years 1 . Not that they would trade it anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted January 3, 2011 Author Share Posted January 3, 2011 According to ESPN.com, Denver's opponents have a .516 winning percentage in 2010, while the Bills' opponents have a .578 percentage and Cincinnati's opponents a .582 percentage. That means Denver will pick second, the Bills will pick third, and the Bengals will pick fourth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1B4IDie Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 (edited) re read the post....if hes the best in years he sets your franchise at the most important position on the field. I don't think you thought about that. You're not drafting from every QB in the NFL "in years". You're drafting from the 2011 draft class. So you get a 98 draft grade with Luck. But you could get a 93 with Newton or a 92 with Mallet. Is it really worth paying the huge cost to trade up? According to the draft value chart it would take the Bills 1st,2nd and 3rd round pick to get the #1. If I'm Carolina I take that deal all day long and laugh my way to the playoffs. While Luck struggles on a team with no defense and a leaky right side of the O-line with no depth. Remember Nix was involved in the receiving end of the Eli Manning\Philip Rivers. I think most would agree San Diego got the better part of that deal. The Giants won the Super Bowl because of the D-Line and that crazy helmet catch not Eli. http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft06/news/story?id=2410670 BTW "best in years" has no concrete meaning. Edited January 3, 2011 by Why So Serious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Put me in the we need a franchise QB camp........Mark Gaughan said today in the paper that the Dolphins big mistake was taking Jake Long over Matt Ryan. Long is a Pro Bowler who will be great for a decade, yet getting the franchise QB is much more important. The Fins are still floundering and the Falcons are the #1 seed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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