T master Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 (edited) With as bad as the team has been doing this year record wise and in the recent past , then through in what ever the deal is between Jim Harbaugh & Jim Kelly i was wondering . If Luck does happen to come out this year do you all think he might pull what Eli did (with some coaxing from his coach) & say he just doesn't want to play for the Bills , or might he even pull what Kelly himself did & just sit or possibly do something else like play for the CFL or UFL or whatever . Not that i think either of the last things i mention will come through but i'm just throwing it out there as a thought . And if he was to pull an Eli what would or should the Bills do then ?? If he doesn't come out i think we'll be fine or if we do well the last 4 games we won't have to worry about it because they say he will be the first pick if he comes out , but i just thought i'd throw this out there for some food for thought & see what you all might be thinking !! Edited December 11, 2010 by T master Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 Moot point. Carolina & Cincinnati are ahead of us in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ (not THAT RJ) Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 Luck had actually better hope Cincinnati does not draft him. That is where first-round QB careers go to die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 why would he do that? except for eli manning what top pick has refused to go to a team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 (edited) why would he do that? except for eli manning what top pick has refused to go to a team? Well, Jim Kelly didn't really want to come here at first. And John Elway and family told the Colts not to draft him. "Elway had publicly stated that he refused to join the Colts organization, feeling the team could not allow him to be successful. If they did not trade him he said he was going to play baseball. Eventually, Colts owner Robert Irsay gave in. The Colts traded him to the Denver Broncos for QB Mark Herrmann, rights to OL Chris Hinton and a first-round pick (OG Ron Solt) in the 1984 NFL Draft on May 2, 1983." Edited December 11, 2010 by San Jose Bills Fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 Bo Jackson. Tom Cousineau. Ernie Davis. Angelo Bertelli. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleAndHungry Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 i was actually thinking about this exact same topic and it was initiated after watching the draft day trade episode on NFL Network Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 Bo Jackson. Tom Cousineau. and we all know how the cousineau trade worked out...i always thought it was the canadians who just offered him more money than the bills so thats why he left. bo just wanted to play baseball from what i remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 and we all know how the cousineau trade worked out...i always thought it was the canadians who just offered him more money than the bills so thats why he left. bo just wanted to play baseball from what i remember. No to both accounts. Bo Jackson told the Bucs not to draft him. They drafted him anyway, so he flipped them a bird and said he'd rather play baseball than play for Tampa Bay. Cousineau decided his only choice was to go to the CFL because the Bills treated him so poorly. They didn't even call the guy after they drafted him, low balled him, etc. Cousineau's agent was ready to fly with him to Buffalo, but they learned at the airport that the Bills had provided only a ticket for Cousineau. Then, after Cousineau's introductory press conference, a key team executive didn't show for a dinner meeting. Finally, when Buffalo's contract offer came in low, at $1.2 million over five years, Cousineau accepted a competing offer—$850,000 for three years from the Montreal Alouettes of the CFL. http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2010/04/21/tom-cousineau-reflects-on-being-chosen-one-in-1979/ http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1027384/index.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 after tampa couldn't sign him his name went into the nfl draft a year later and no team would touch him cause he wanted to play baseball. the raiders took him in the 7th round and bo still played ball after that. i didn't realize that buffalo lowballed him and treated him like that but he did take more money from canada. He tried to negotiate with the Bills, but Buffalo's best offer was five years and $1.2 million. Montreal offered, with the signing bonus, a little more than $1 million for three years, Cousineau said. As talks bogged down, Cousineau said he remembered then Bills-coach Chuck Knox visiting him at Cleveland Airport and being near exasperated at the pace of negotiations between Walsh and GM Stew Barber. http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2010/04/21/tom-cousineau-reflects-on-being-chosen-one-in-1979/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thoner7 Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 Well we are gonna have to trade up to nab Luck. I am all for it, and I dont think we would see that happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 I don't think there is any question whatsoever that Stew Barber was playing hard-ball with Cousineau and felt that Cousineau would play for whatever he decided to offer him. The Bills have used this mode of "negotiation" in other cases as well. Some fans even think it's commendable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Blizzard Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 and we all know how the cousineau trade worked out...i always thought it was the canadians who just offered him more money than the bills so thats why he left. bo just wanted to play baseball from what i remember. Bo should have stuck with baseball; he probably would have had a hall of fame career. Too bad the injury cut his career short. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted December 11, 2010 Author Share Posted December 11, 2010 Moot point. Carolina & Cincinnati are ahead of us in the draft. Thank god for your crystal ball or we would all just sit around wondering what the future holds !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2003Contenders Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 Eli's stunt actually helped the Chargers as they were able to fleece the Giants for Philip Rivers, an additional 1st rounder, 2nd rounder and another mid round pick. If the Bills could do something like that, I wouldn't cry too much about missing out on Luck. Like others have said, I believe it is all moot anyway as the Bills will probably not be picking 1st overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 Reggie told the saints not to draft him. It's leverage to say those things but there's no chance he waits and eats 10 mill to go to another year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 Honestly, to compare players from the 80s is foolish. The money is so outlandish now, it's a whole new game. I would bet anything Eli would play in SD if they told him to suck it up. They had the benefit of a huge offer and another player they liked to get then out of any drama but Eli would never hold out the year. I would bet these "threats" are common in every draft, you never see anyone sit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 Eli's stunt actually helped the Chargers as they were able to fleece the Giants for Philip Rivers, an additional 1st rounder, 2nd rounder and another mid round pick. If the Bills could do something like that, I wouldn't cry too much about missing out on Luck. Like others have said, I believe it is all moot anyway as the Bills will probably not be picking 1st overall. Yeah. They sure fleeced the Giants ... oh and the Giants went on to beat the 18-0 Pats* in the Super Bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fridge Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 why would he do that? except for eli manning what top pick has refused to go to a team? Eric Lindros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsSD Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 Reggie told the saints not to draft him. It's leverage to say those things but there's no chance he waits and eats 10 mill to go to another year. What proof of that do you have. I have never seen anything remotely suggesting that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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