Why not build it on the edge of the falls???

[PromoTheRobot]

Let's ruin the Falls by putting a huge stadium next to it?

 

No thanks. The Falls will be around long after the Bills are a memory. Leave the Canadian view untarnished. And the American side has zero view anyways.

 

Want to build it within walking distance in the NF slums? No problem.

Probably true, although it's also true the Falls are moving toward Buffalo a couple feet a year. So just build a stadium in downtown Buffalo and wait 10,000 years.

 

Seriously, build a combo stadium/convention/hotel/entertainment complex near the Falls. You can blow up most of downtown NF for parking, though there are acres of empty fields just behind the casino. Have the Bills play there and bid for things like the NCAA Final 4 and Super Bowl. Even have the Sabres vs Leafs there once a year.

 

PTR

[Section444]

Am I missing something? Last time I read there was no real talk of a new stadium. I was under the impression that the area was in pretty bad shape financially.

[Peace]

Am I missing something? Last time I read there was no real talk of a new stadium. I was under the impression that the area was in pretty bad shape financially.

 

There is no money for a stadium. This is one poster imagining Bill Gates bought the Bills and Buffalo becomes a new place to live for the world's rich and famous.

 

The Bills will always be a small market team as long as they are locked in Buffalo. The closer they get to Toronto, ie, NF, the better their chances of staying in Buffalo and getting a more wealthy and sustaining fan base and ownership.

[Section444]

There is no money for a stadium. This is one poster imagining Bill Gates bought the Bills and Buffalo becomes a new place to live for the world's rich and famous.

 

The Bills will always be a small market team as long as they are locked in Buffalo. The closer they get to Toronto, ie, NF, the better their chances of staying in Buffalo and getting a more wealthy and sustaining fan base and ownership.

Ah okay. Well, even the richest of NFL owners (Jerry Jones, etc...) still need a lot of help from the community to build their stadiums. I honestly don't know why the Bills need a new stadium, it's one of the better game-day experiences in the league because it's so old and outdated. Could it use a couple hundred million dollars invested to upgrading some aspects of it, sure, but I don't think it needs to be replaced. Now if the Bills and the county can't hammer something out by 2012 you won't have much of an option.

[Merle Haggard]

Let's ruin the Falls by putting a huge stadium next to it?

 

No thanks. The Falls will be around long after the Bills are a memory. Leave the Canadian view untarnished. And the American side has zero view anyways.

 

Want to build it within walking distance in the NF slums? No problem.

 

Wha??? How the in the sam heck would a state of the art stadium next to the falls ruin it? Compared to the sewer of a downtown area that the present NF (USA) is, the stadium would be a crown jewel.

 

Putting the stadium next to the falls is a brilliant idea.

[Geno Smith's Arm]

Wha??? How the in the sam heck would a state of the art stadium next to the falls ruin it? Compared to the sewer of a downtown area that the present NF (USA) is, the stadium would be a crown jewel.

 

Putting the stadium next to the falls is a brilliant idea.

 

 

It's one of the NATURAL Wonders of the World! It's already pretty commercialized (I think they should raze any building within a mile of it, but I know that won't happen). I can't see how having a stadium right next to the Falls, either would benefit (the stadium or the Falls). It would just look cool in the overhead shot from the blimp or something. Homer Simpson, is that you?

 

Probably true, although it's also true the Falls are moving toward Buffalo a couple feet a year. So just build a stadium in downtown Buffalo and wait 10,000 years.

 

Seriously, build a combo stadium/convention/hotel/entertainment complex near the Falls. You can blow up most of downtown NF for parking, though there are acres of empty fields just behind the casino. Have the Bills play there and bid for things like the NCAA Final 4 and Super Bowl. Even have the Sabres vs Leafs there once a year.

 

PTR

 

 

How about this? Give Niagara Falls an opportunity to somehow manage to keep say, a bowling league going for 10 years. Then, if they can keep that going, maybe they can be taken seriously as a "host city".

[Merle Haggard]

It's one of the NATURAL Wonders of the World! It's already pretty commercialized (I think they should raze any building within a mile of it, but I know that won't happen). I can't see how having a stadium right next to the Falls, either would benefit (the stadium or the Falls). It would just look cool in the overhead shot from the blimp or something. Homer Simpson, is that you?

 

 

No reason for name calling. I believe it is against forum rules. Putting a great stadium by one of the 7 wonders is a brilliant idea. It could be designed in such a way that would satisfy you tree hugger types. LOL. I say bull doze downtown NF and build the darn thing. Put in all the modern day goodies that you young types love - big screen scoreboard, loud music blaring, etc.

 

Remember guy, a mind is like a parachute, to work properly it must be open.

[bills1960]

What I don't understand is all the talk about this team needing to expand their fan base. Yeah, getting a larger market from Toronto and Southern Ont. would help, but the Bills have made money from day one in this market. I have no fear in the Bills moving because they do what other teams these days fail to do, make money. I don't see the need for one in N.F., build it in the city and try to revive the downtown area.

[buffalobillsfootball]

Although I prefer a downtown BUFFALO stadium; I'm not against a Niagara Falls Stadium. Our future in north of the border; not Rochester.

 

However, there is no way in hell a stadium for the Bills will be built in or near the oldest state park in the country.

 

When the time comes; build the stadium in downtown Buffalo.

[notwoz]

Putting a great stadium by one of the 7 wonders is a brilliant idea.

Uh, no. If I can be candid and honest: It's a stupid idea.

 

Granted, downtown Niagara Falls is a s**thole. As a former resident of the Falls, it pains me to say that, but the city has been decaying for at least 50 years and really needs something no short of a miracle to restore its former glory. And no, a football stadium is not that miracle that will revive the city or benefit the team's ownership. And you have to take into consideration that the ownership could very well change long before any new stadium is completed.

 

Let's start wtih logistics. There is no place on the American side of the falls to build a stadium that has a view of the cataracts as was suggested. Unless you want to have a "three-sided" stadium. Then you cut down on capacity. That doesn't even begin to address issues such as parking or a road system that can handle the traffic all of eight times a year.

 

Also, the prime real estate closest to the falls and the gorge is owned by New York State. Good luck convincing Albany that anything west of the Husdon River is worthy of consideration -- especially a hare-brained idea like a football stadium at the brink of the falls.

 

Additionally, in 2008 Congress designated the falls as a national heritage area -- which is a designation signifying the region’s "importance to American history and culture." According to the National Park Service: "Usually managed by a partnership of organizations and local governments, national heritage areas pool together resources (cultural, natural and financial) to promote the region for tourism and economic development, while fostering preservation and conservation for the visitors of today and future generations. The National Park Service is authorized by Congress to provide financial and technical assistance to the partnerships that manage the areas."

 

If there ever was a person who could survive and successfully negotiate the cluster-f**k that this designation impies, he died about 2000 years ago.

 

So just suck it up and drive to Orchard Park.

 

Oh, by the way -- what are the other six wonders, and do they have sports arenas built on top of them?

 

What I don't understand is all the talk about this team needing to expand their fan base. Yeah, getting a larger market from Toronto and Southern Ont. would help, but the Bills have made money from day one in this market. I have no fear in the Bills moving because they do what other teams these days fail to do, make money. I don't see the need for one in N.F., build it in the city and try to revive the downtown area.

The population of Buffalo and Erie County is shrinking. This is something that's been going on for decades. The only logical place to expand the fan base is in Ontario. Every time I make the drive through Southern Ontario I see more and more development. When I cross the bridge into New York ... well, it's not a pretty picture.

[Thurman#1]

Wha??? How the in the sam heck would a state of the art stadium next to the falls ruin it? Compared to the sewer of a downtown area that the present NF (USA) is, the stadium would be a crown jewel.

 

Putting the stadium next to the falls is a brilliant idea.

 

 

 

From the outside, stadiums are phenomenally ugly. Just horrible. No way anyone should be allowed to do it next to the Falls. No way.

 

But someone else suggested some way away with some kind of distant view of the Falls. If it were possible, that would be good. Don't think there are many distant views of the Falls, though.

[jhood716]

i like the stadium where it is.

 

i live in niagara falls if they were to move i think it would be a great place to put the stadium and it would be great for the city of niagara falls. dont think it would ever happen tho the way this city is run it seems they always do the opposite of what would be good for the falls

[Joaquin1119]

I'm sorry to say but dome stadium sucks!! football should be an out door sport not indoor..

[strive_for_five_guy]

Sounds like the point has been made above, but how would traffic work?

[Cookiemonster]

This would save us from having to cut players, as we would just send them over the falls in a barrell.

[bills1960]

Uh, no. If I can be candid and honest: It's a stupid idea.

 

Granted, downtown Niagara Falls is a s**thole. As a former resident of the Falls, it pains me to say that, but the city has been decaying for at least 50 years and really needs something no short of a miracle to restore its former glory. And no, a football stadium is not that miracle that will revive the city or benefit the team's ownership. And you have to take into consideration that the ownership could very well change long before any new stadium is completed.

 

Let's start wtih logistics. There is no place on the American side of the falls to build a stadium that has a view of the cataracts as was suggested. Unless you want to have a "three-sided" stadium. Then you cut down on capacity. That doesn't even begin to address issues such as parking or a road system that can handle the traffic all of eight times a year.

 

Also, the prime real estate closest to the falls and the gorge is owned by New York State. Good luck convincing Albany that anything west of the Husdon River is worthy of consideration -- especially a hare-brained idea like a football stadium at the brink of the falls.

 

Additionally, in 2008 Congress designated the falls as a national heritage area -- which is a designation signifying the region’s "importance to American history and culture." According to the National Park Service: "Usually managed by a partnership of organizations and local governments, national heritage areas pool together resources (cultural, natural and financial) to promote the region for tourism and economic development, while fostering preservation and conservation for the visitors of today and future generations. The National Park Service is authorized by Congress to provide financial and technical assistance to the partnerships that manage the areas."

 

If there ever was a person who could survive and successfully negotiate the cluster-f**k that this designation impies, he died about 2000 years ago.

 

So just suck it up and drive to Orchard Park.

 

Oh, by the way -- what are the other six wonders, and do they have sports arenas built on top of them?

 

 

The population of Buffalo and Erie County is shrinking. This is something that's been going on for decades. The only logical place to expand the fan base is in Ontario. Every time I make the drive through Southern Ontario I see more and more development. When I cross the bridge into New York ... well, it's not a pretty picture.

But they sell out every game and make a lot of money. It shouldn't matter about the population, it should matter about their success. Look at Green Bay, excluding their historic factor,that area (including Milwaukee), isn't doing great either, but they make money like we do.

[metzelaars_lives]

Are you in fact the real Merle Haggard and if so, are you retiring from posting here? I'd imagine you could get some good material for some heartbreaking country tunes on here.

[notwoz]

Are you in fact the real Merle Haggard and if so, are you retiring from posting here? I'd imagine you could get some good material for some heartbreaking country tunes on here.

Are you really Pete Metzelaars?

[Van_phelaN1]

 

 

First of all, at the moment I don't think we need another stadium.

The Ralph is great.

 

Seats are still affordable

Great sight lines

CHEAP parking (Go to Foxboro if you think you're paying to much)

Very lax tailgating rules

The stadium is in the snow belt (Though it rarely snows during games, instead we get weather like the torent that ripped off the lake during the Griants games a few years back, god that was awesome)

Easy access to and from the stadium

ITS NOT A DOME

 

HAHA My lady and I were at that game, drove up from Albany. I forgot what side of the Ralph I parked in and made her walk wet and cold in the wrong direction before i figured it out. God was she pissed lol.

[Heitz]

What I don't understand is all the talk about this team needing to expand their fan base. Yeah, getting a larger market from Toronto and Southern Ont. would help, but the Bills have made money from day one in this market. I have no fear in the Bills moving because they do what other teams these days fail to do, make money. I don't see the need for one in N.F., build it in the city and try to revive the downtown area.

They need to expand the fan base so that companies across the boarder view the Buffalo Bills as a legit advertising opportunity. They don't really need more "fans" (though I'm sure with the flight from the area we could argue they do), but they do need more corporate dollars...

 

 

In the end this was just supposed to be a fun thread, a "what if". Funny to see tempers flair.

 

Truth be told I love the Ralph and I'm fine with going to games in OP (it's even closer to Bradford and no move is going to make the stadium closer to Vermont). But I would also be open to a downtown or NF stadium - like someone said earlier, hearing and seeing the falls in the background would be sick! Can it happen? Doesn't really matter for a theoretical thread, IMO.