Incompetence! ...oh, NEVERMIND.

[PromoTheRobot]

That being said Junior Seau retired many times only to come back and play for the Pats.

Man needed his HGH pipeline.

 

PTR

[BADOLBILZ]

(copied from Buffalo Rumblings)

 

John McClain of the Houston Chronicle is reporting that former Buffalo Bills defensive end Aaron Schobel has decided to retire.

 

Twitter link:

http://twitter.com/McClain_on_NFL/status/21327695498

 

 

 

But, But we should have TRADED him! Nevermind that he has a huge contract and stated many times that he would play for the Bills or retire. No GM (not even Matt Millen) would have traded for someone who was that likely to retire.

 

I gotta' laugh at the premise of your post.

 

How the Bills proved everyone wrong about their handling of Schobel.

 

Yeah, the Bills were right, he didn't want to play. I guess the upside of sucking balls for a decade is that you might actually be able to get an expensive player to retire from apathy instead of playing out the string on your dime. I for one agreed with not trading or releasing him and instead forcing him to play or quit. It was the right thing to do. But certainly nothing to gloat over.

[Doc]

If he is retiring then I will apologize for all the mean things I have said and thank him for playing hard on Bills teams that were hard to watch, let alone play for.

Not so fast. He should have stayed retired or come back to play when he forced the Bills to release him. The drama he created, only to announce retirement, was wholly unnecessary.

[Doc]

I gotta' laugh at the premise of your post.

 

How the Bills proved everyone wrong about their handling of Schobel.

 

Yeah, the Bills were right, he didn't want to play. I guess the upside of sucking balls for a decade is that you might actually be able to get an expensive player to retire from apathy instead of playing out the string on your dime. I for one agreed with not trading or releasing him and instead forcing him to play or quit. It was the right thing to do. But certainly nothing to gloat over.

Please. He could have been "apathetic" and still shown up earlier in the season to collect his $2M roster bonus and then his $6M salary. Or he could have latched-on with a team that made the playoffs last year (Pats) or who are on the verge of making them (Texans). The premise that the Bills handled it right and everyone else was wrong was proven to a "T."

[BADOLBILZ]

Please. He could have been "apathetic" and still shown up earlier in the season to collect his $2M roster bonus and then his $6M salary. Or he could have latched-on with a team that made the playoffs last year (Pats) or who are on the verge of making them (Texans). The premise that the Bills handled it right and everyone else was wrong was proven to a "T."

 

Yeah......like I said the Bills were right. I was right. "To a "T"". What's your point other than trying to be contrary?

 

And the fact that the Bills did not release him in January may well have significantly contributed to his decision to retire. If he were a free agent in March with teams pursuing him to fill holes prior to draft day, things might have been very different. The Bills waited him out and it's unlikely a contender was willing to pay him anywhere near his 2010 Bills paycheck by the time training camp rolled around.

 

The important point here isn't that the Bills were right that he was going to retire. The important point is they made Schobel stay a Bill until his options were very limited. The Bills have developed a reputation for letting players dictate whether they want to play in Buffalo or not. They did not release Schobel this winter and they did not trade Lynch. That's good. But it's just a start.

[Doc]

Yeah......like I said the Bills were right. I was right. "To a "T"". What's your point other than trying to be contrary?

 

And the fact that the Bills did not release him in January may well have significantly contributed to his decision to retire. If he were a free agent in March with teams pursuing him to fill holes prior to draft day, things might have been very different. The Bills waited him out and it's unlikely a contender was willing to pay him anywhere near his 2010 Bills paycheck by the time training camp rolled around.

 

The important point here isn't that the Bills were right that he was going to retire. The important point is they made Schobel stay a Bill until his options were very limited. The Bills have developed a reputation for letting players dictate whether they want to play in Buffalo or not. They did not release Schobel this winter and they did not trade Lynch. That's good. But it's just a start.

I'm not being contrary, just pointing out the facts. Perhaps releasing him in January may have made things different. But he was free, had interest from 3 teams, and still chose to retire. If money (or lack thereof, i.e. teams weren't offering him enough) was the issue, he wouldn't have been coming back for the right reasons anyway, and would have been better of apathetically taking the Bills' $8M to play OLB in the 3-4 for a year.

 

Since this drama started, I've been saying that he meant to retire but got the urge to maybe give it another go just recently. And once I saw that he hadn't signed with the Texans immediately upon being released, I had a feeling he'd retire. Again my issue is him forcing the Bills' hands, instead of remaining retired, or coming back to play and signing with the Texans after being released. Or he could have given it a shot at OLB in the 3-4.

[Delete This Account]

Yeah......like I said the Bills were right. I was right. "To a "T"". What's your point other than trying to be contrary?

 

And the fact that the Bills did not release him in January may well have significantly contributed to his decision to retire. If he were a free agent in March with teams pursuing him to fill holes prior to draft day, things might have been very different. The Bills waited him out and it's unlikely a contender was willing to pay him anywhere near his 2010 Bills paycheck by the time training camp rolled around.

 

The important point here isn't that the Bills were right that he was going to retire. The important point is they made Schobel stay a Bill until his options were very limited. The Bills have developed a reputation for letting players dictate whether they want to play in Buffalo or not. They did not release Schobel this winter and they did not trade Lynch. That's good. But it's just a start.

oh, good god.

Schobel did not want to be released. he was not demanding to be cut. he was not looking for his contract to be matched elsewhere. this wasn't about money. and the bills did not wait him out (and there's a difference here, because they waited as long as they could for Aaron to make up his mind, before they elected to move on).

and as it turns out, he finally made up his mind. why do the conspiracy theorists out there believe that there's something nefarious that went on here?

Aaron was not Jason Peters. he was not Marshawn Lynch. he was simply being himself, a person who was conflicted with a decision and unable to make up his mind.

 

 

jw

[thewildrabbit]

My take is nobody was willing to pay him what he felt he was worth, so he retired.

 

I'll bet if some injuries start to plague the Texans along the D line and they offer him a contract close to what he made as a Bill... he will play again.

[Thurman#1]

In fairness, he never stated that. He never said he would play for the Bills or retire. He left the door a bit open.

 

 

 

Yes, he did. many times. He just changed his tune when the bills said that they were moving on without him. So when the bills weren't an option, he said he would lke to play for another team or retire. But with him keep bringing up retirement, it seemed obvious that he was going to retire.

 

 

 

OK, then a link should be easy to find. LINK?

[Thurman#1]

I gotta' laugh at the premise of your post.

 

How the Bills proved everyone wrong about their handling of Schobel.

 

Yeah, the Bills were right, he didn't want to play. I guess the upside of sucking balls for a decade is that you might actually be able to get an expensive player to retire from apathy instead of playing out the string on your dime. I for one agreed with not trading or releasing him and instead forcing him to play or quit. It was the right thing to do. But certainly nothing to gloat over.

 

 

 

The reason they didn't trade him is because nobody would give anything for a guy who had announced that he was likely to retire. This had nothing to do with "forcing anything." We cut him, for Pete's sake. He was free to go anywhere, and he retired.

[Thurman#1]

oh, good god.

Schobel did not want to be released. he was not demanding to be cut. he was not looking for his contract to be matched elsewhere. this wasn't about money. and the bills did not wait him out (and there's a difference here, because they waited as long as they could for Aaron to make up his mind, before they elected to move on).

and as it turns out, he finally made up his mind. why do the conspiracy theorists out there believe that there's something nefarious that went on here?

Aaron was not Jason Peters. he was not Marshawn Lynch. he was simply being himself, a person who was conflicted with a decision and unable to make up his mind.

 

 

jw

 

 

 

Exactly.

 

His options aren't very limited even now. Rosters are still packed with camp fodder and if picked up, he would be a pass rush specialist, which doesn't take a whole lot of learning of systems. Nobody would have altered their drafts if they picked up Schobel before the draft ... he had already said he was likely to quit.

 

He's in pretty much the same situation now that he would have been if he'd been available before the draft. Yet he quit.

[Malazan]

HOUSTON (AP) -- Former Buffalo Bills linebacker Aaron Schobel is retiring, saying he lost his hunger for playing last year.

 

Is he officially a 'linebacker' now?

[Green Lightning]

Umm, I just don't care.

 

Let's move on.