finknottle Posted June 15, 2010 Share Posted June 15, 2010 Well, at the risk of reigniting conner. I didn't realize this story was this old otherwise I wouldn't have bothered. However I did so I'll I'm saying is does this man(Obama) have no sense of history? No respect for other countries that are our friends? Even if he secretly didn't like Winston wouldn't it make sense to keep it just to show the English that you do consider it a honor to have it. If only for political reasons to please them? Listen, I know its not a big deal but it shows a lot about this guy. No common sense or he is just that arrogant he doesn't give a crap. Either way, he's not good. I have to wonder if it was a bust of Desmond Tutu or Nelson Mandela is that jackass returning it? Obama may or may not have personal animosity towards the UK. Let's give him the benefit of the doubt. What this all shows me is that the people he put in place - the one's who decided to return the bust, who thought an Ipod was an apprropriate gift for the Queen, and who got the Prime Minister a bunch of DVD's that can't be played on a European zone dvd player - are both clueless and incompetant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted June 15, 2010 Share Posted June 15, 2010 Obama may or may not have personal animosity towards the UK. Let's give him the benefit of the doubt. What this all shows me is that the people he put in place - the one's who decided to return the bust, who thought an Ipod was an apprropriate gift for the Queen, and who got the Prime Minister a bunch of DVD's that can't be played on a European zone dvd player - are both clueless and incompetant. Speaking of the gifts, what do you get as a gift for the Queen? Honestly curious here, maybe jewelery? A piece of art? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted June 15, 2010 Share Posted June 15, 2010 The movie "Braveheart" was loosely based on him as well. Quite a guy He played himself too. The studios wanted to cast Chuck Norris, but Sir Winston said Norris wasn't badass enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted June 21, 2010 Share Posted June 21, 2010 I heard he's going to replace it with a bust of UK goalkeeper Robert Green. Maybe he'll bust a move Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drnykterstein Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 Hey, if anyone cares, I just found out why Obama sent back Churchill's bust. http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_gr...hill/index.html Obama's grandfather was "imprisoned without trial for two years and tortured on Churchill's watch, for resisting Churchill's empire." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 Hey, if anyone cares, I just found out why Obama sent back Churchill's bust. http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_gr...hill/index.html So it was personal? Brilliant move for a statesman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drinkTHEkoolaid Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 Actually, this is old news. One of the very first things Obama did when moving in to the Oval Office was move out the Churchill bust. It got a little air time, but back then, Obama could have taken a dump on the WH lawn at high noon and the press would have ignored it. Its a shame that objective journalism is dead and most of the main stream media is in bed with the liberal agenda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drinkTHEkoolaid Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 Obama may or may not have personal animosity towards the UK. Let's give him the benefit of the doubt. What this all shows me is that the people he put in place - the one's who decided to return the bust, who thought an Ipod was an apprropriate gift for the Queen, and who got the Prime Minister a bunch of DVD's that can't be played on a European zone dvd player - are both clueless and incompetant. don't worry he will pick better people to run obamacare! /sarcasm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 So it was personal? Brilliant move for a statesman. Obama's grandfather was arrested in '49. Churchill wasn't PM again until '51. Nice job by Salon making up a quote to justify a fact that isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whateverdude Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 Hey, if anyone cares, I just found out why Obama sent back Churchill's bust. http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_gr...hill/index.html Once again salon got it all wrong!!! It's a little know fact according to moveon.org that prior to taking office in 1951 Churchill went to the prison where Obama grandfather was kept and extinguished his cigar on his grandfathers forehead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finknottle Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 It doesn't matter. Let's assume that Obama's education taught him that Churchill was an imperialist racist responsible for atrocities in Kenya. What the heck - for argument let's even assume he was. (Churchill seemed prejudiced in his views towards the empires's natives. But his real sin was in employing force and repression to hold the empire together.) Churchill is now a historical figure whose legacy represents vigilance and leadership in the darkest of hours. His colonial views are a footnote, rather like the slave-holdings of Washington. If Obama wants to view Churchill legacy in that way, so be it. The mature thing would have been for him to bark at some subordinate to get that thing out of his office. It should have quietly gone into a closet somewhere, with nothing said to the British. It should not have been returned, and Obama's animosity to Churchill shouldn't color his policies towards the UK today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 So it was personal? Brilliant move for a statesman. Statesman?? What statesman? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 Statesman?? What statesman? Nobel Peace Prize. Ergo, statesman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 Nobel Peace Prize. Ergo, statesman. Oh right, I forgot about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalkie Gerzowski Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 Olympic bid winner too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pBills Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 We should change this section of TBD to JBAO.. Just B word About Obama. Works doesn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 We should change this section of TBD to JBAO.. Just B word About Obama. Works doesn't it? Foot's on the other shoe now, isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pBills Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 Foot's on the other shoe now, isn't it? No entirely, for all of the things I didn't like about the prior administration. I respected him and some of the things he accomplished. The way it is now, no one respects the President and no one can find anything to agree with him on. Just a big B word fest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 No entirely, for all of the things I didn't like about the prior administration. I respected him and some of the things he accomplished. The way it is now, no one respects the President and no one can find anything to agree with him on. Just a big B word fest. I think that says more about who's in the WH now than a bunch of posters on a message board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pBills Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 I think that says more about who's in the WH now than a bunch of posters on a message board. No. I think it also says a lot about the people here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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