millbank Posted November 30, 2004 Share Posted November 30, 2004 Butch Davis has been fired as coach of the Cleveland Browns, ESPN's Chris Mortensen is reporting. Davis, whose teams went 24-36 overall in three-plus seasons, met with team owner Randy Lerner on Monday night and was told of thBe decision, according to Mortensen. Butch Davis what on earth are players doing helping decide who will coach......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thailog80 Posted November 30, 2004 Share Posted November 30, 2004 Damn....Willis isn't going to get to stomp his former coach. Dave Campo= Poindexter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Bone Posted November 30, 2004 Share Posted November 30, 2004 I hope that new coach does not screw up the Patriots this week... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UConn James Posted November 30, 2004 Share Posted November 30, 2004 Some places are saying "resigned" not that those two terms aren't synonymous in today's world.... Can't say it's a surprise. Attention, if you're a successful college coach who is itching to move to the NFL, wait until better teams call you so it's not professional suicide when you hitch your wagon to the likes of the Browns and Deadskins. And the fact that those better teams aren't calling you means that you belong in the college ranks. Dem's breaks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seq004 Posted November 30, 2004 Share Posted November 30, 2004 While I think he deserved to be fired why not wait till the end of the year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg de'Ville Posted November 30, 2004 Share Posted November 30, 2004 While I think he deserved to be fired why not wait till the end of the year? 139143[/snapback] So he can pursue a college job right away. The Bungles debacle Sunday was the final straw. Davis had to go. But he won't be the last because there are a bunch of guys who should get the gate by the end of the season, if not before: Erickson, Haslett, the loser of the NFC Worst derby (Martz or Holmgren). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted November 30, 2004 Share Posted November 30, 2004 While I think he deserved to be fired why not wait till the end of the year? 139143[/snapback] It's the "in vogue" thing right now. Instead of firing coaches at the end of the season, they now "resign" during the team's lowest point. Wanny did it. Now Butch. The NFL is really a cut throat business. More than ever before, owners & fans expect to WIN NOW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd Posted November 30, 2004 Share Posted November 30, 2004 Butch Davis has been fired as coach of the Cleveland Browns, ESPN's Chris Mortensen is reporting. Davis, whose teams went 24-36 overall in three-plus seasons, met with team owner Randy Lerner on Monday night and was told of thBe decision, according to Mortensen. Butch Davis what on earth are players doing helping decide who will coach......... 139116[/snapback] Let's hope Syracuse gets him. PP stinks, and he can't attract good players. Syracuse hasn't had good players since Marvin Harrison and Donovan McNabb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted November 30, 2004 Share Posted November 30, 2004 Let's hope Syracuse gets him. PP stinks, and he can't attract good players. Syracuse hasn't had good players since Marvin Harrison and Donovan McNabb. 139213[/snapback] Florida - if I had to lay money on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICE Posted November 30, 2004 Share Posted November 30, 2004 Florida - if I had to lay money on it. 139217[/snapback] We keep agreeing on things and people WILL start thinking we are the same person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeyemike Posted November 30, 2004 Share Posted November 30, 2004 I live seven miles from the Browns' facility. I have the local radio and TV on right now...most of the reporting here is that Davis resigned and accepted a buyout...he had about $12 million remaining on his contract. I believe Butch will be announced as the new head coach of the Florida Gators within the next thirty days. I thought Butch Davis was a great hire four years ago. I was wrong. So who will be the eventual head coach of the Browns? I have no idea. They don't have a general manager or a player personnel director...I think they have to get those first. By the way, in just twelve days, my formerly beloved Browns play the Bills in Orchard Park, as we all know. With the Bills now on a tear and the Browns circling the drains...I don't think people will be feeling all that well the next few weeks in my hometown. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gross Posted November 30, 2004 Share Posted November 30, 2004 Some places are saying "resigned" not that those two terms aren't synonymous in today's world.... 139139[/snapback] Trust me, Ralph Wilson will tell you personally, based on his experience with Wade, that there is a difference between "fired" and "resigned." Of course, that depends on how much time is left on the coach's contract. Coaching money is guaranteed, which means if you fire a coach (team breaking the contract) you're paying him to fish, while if he quits (coach breaking the contract) then you don't owe him a dime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadBuffaloDisease Posted November 30, 2004 Share Posted November 30, 2004 I live seven miles from the Browns' facility. I have the local radio and TV on right now...most of the reporting here is that Davis resigned and accepted a buyout...he had about $12 million remaining on his contract. I believe Butch will be announced as the new head coach of the Florida Gators within the next thirty days. I thought Butch Davis was a great hire four years ago. I was wrong. So who will be the eventual head coach of the Browns? I have no idea. They don't have a general manager or a player personnel director...I think they have to get those first. By the way, in just twelve days, my formerly beloved Browns play the Bills in Orchard Park, as we all know. With the Bills now on a tear and the Browns circling the drains...I don't think people will be feeling all that well the next few weeks in my hometown. Mike 139228[/snapback] They shouldn't have been feeling well already. Losing to the Bills should be expected. However they SHOULD feel a little better, now that Davis has been fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gantrules Posted November 30, 2004 Share Posted November 30, 2004 I was sure after that 2002 season that we'd see more of the Browns in 2003, 2004...it's a shame it never came together. He'll land another role. See ya Butchy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICE Posted November 30, 2004 Share Posted November 30, 2004 Trust me, Ralph Wilson will tell you personally, based on his experience with Wade, that there is a difference between "fired" and "resigned." Of course, that depends on how much time is left on the coach's contract. Coaching money is guaranteed, which means if you fire a coach (team breaking the contract) you're paying him to fish, while if he quits (coach breaking the contract) then you don't owe him a dime. 139232[/snapback] Actually mort reported that Davis was going to give the ownership a buyout for a lesser amount IF allowed to resign today. I guess they did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millbank Posted November 30, 2004 Author Share Posted November 30, 2004 Actually mort reported that Davis was going to give the ownership a buyout for a lesser amount IF allowed to resign today. I guess they did 139259[/snapback] could be Ice , but Mort made the distinction today that he was fired as opposed to resigned, as noted they are very different in nature in terms of obligations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gross Posted November 30, 2004 Share Posted November 30, 2004 Actually mort reported that Davis was going to give the ownership a buyout for a lesser amount IF allowed to resign today. I guess they did 139259[/snapback] Yes, the negotiated settlement is the third option. It's the way you get situations like this, where now Butch can look for his next college job and the team gets off cheaper... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Wheels Posted November 30, 2004 Share Posted November 30, 2004 I heard Davis already has been wooed by the Florida Gators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted November 30, 2004 Share Posted November 30, 2004 I liked him the year he took the Browns into the playoffs, but that was an epic choke against the Steelers in the Wild Card game... the team pretty much sucked ever since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted November 30, 2004 Share Posted November 30, 2004 Somehow, I'm not sure Florida's gonna be all that fired up about hiring an ex-Hurricane head coach who walked out 24 hours before National Signing Day in order to take the Browns job after telling his entire team that he would be at Miami for the foreseeable future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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