Logical Reasoning Posted May 1, 2010 Share Posted May 1, 2010 How can our offense exploit their defense? Two very strong one-on-one corners and a first round pick that was the best cover corner drafted. They put these guys on an island and put nine in the box. Running against nine in the box is tough and passing against their corners might be pretty tough too. Good special teams coach and special teams in general. Good offensive line. Addition of Holmes adds speed to receiving corp. I don't want to roll over here by any means but man they look tough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justnzane Posted May 1, 2010 Share Posted May 1, 2010 How can our offense exploit their defense? Two very strong one-on-one corners and a first round pick that was the best cover corner drafted. They put these guys on an island and put nine in the box. Running against nine in the box is tough and passing against their corners might be pretty tough too. Good special teams coach and special teams in general. Good offensive line. Addition of Holmes adds speed to receiving corp. I don't want to roll over here by any means but man they look tough. Chemistry, it can be a B word, especially with a Ryan at the helm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steely Dan Posted May 1, 2010 Share Posted May 1, 2010 How can our offense exploit their defense? Two very strong one-on-one corners and a first round pick that was the best cover corner drafted. They put these guys on an island and put nine in the box. Running against nine in the box is tough and passing against their corners might be pretty tough too. Good special teams coach and special teams in general. Good offensive line. Addition of Holmes adds speed to receiving corp. I don't want to roll over here by any means but man they look tough. Their running game is their biggest weakness. Getting rid of Thomas Jones and Leon Washington borders on the brain dead. Shonn Green is good but he's not good enough, JMO. Mark Sanchez had a 63.0 QB rating last year. The reason they got to AFC Championship game was by far their running game. The Bills run defense should see great improvement this year and if they can stuff the run the Jests will be forced to throw against McKelvin, McGee and Byrd. With Sanchez throwing 12 TD's and 20 Int's last year I like those odds. The Bills secondary is one of the best in the league and so dealing with their receivers shouldn't be an insurmountable task especially when the RB weakness is taken into account. If CJ Spiller breaks the corner he's gonna move the chains, probably significantly. I hope Gailey can get the offense to a little above average this year because if they are then the Bills should be able to split the games with them this year. JMO Their defense is tough because their secondary is one of the best and even better than Buffalo's, IMO, but not perfect. I'll put money on Chansaw finding holes to exploit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celtic_soulja Posted May 1, 2010 Share Posted May 1, 2010 Not that I'm an offensive genius. But my scheme would be use thier aggression against them. This also caters to Edwards' strength and Spillers strengths. Screen passes and check downs. They blitz a bunch and if we can chuck it short to a RB, which is definitely something we CAN do. We have a shot to put up okay numbers on an otherwise outstanding defense. I think getting rid of Thomas and Leon was dumb to. I don't think the run game will be a weakness per se. I am just hoping those losses along with Faneca will weaken it a little. Enough to where our improved run defense will be able to stuff them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uforesircher Posted May 1, 2010 Share Posted May 1, 2010 How can our offense exploit their defense? Two very strong one-on-one corners and a first round pick that was the best cover corner drafted. They put these guys on an island and put nine in the box. Running against nine in the box is tough and passing against their corners might be pretty tough too. Good special teams coach and special teams in general. Good offensive line. Addition of Holmes adds speed to receiving corp. I don't want to roll over here by any means but man they look tough. well i am not as impressed by the jests as you are i think - their biggest weakness is their raving manic of a coach - but he is entertaining - and yes they made the playoffs but don't forget how they made the playoffs . . . by other teams rolling over in the last week or in somecases the last two weeks - without all the help they got they would not have been in the playoffs and everyone knows this - i still think the patsies will be the team to beat this year - we are not there yet but anything could happen especially if we are better than 30th in the nfl against the run this year - and remember the o-line played very well in the first game of the season before injuries started taking its toll on the o-line so anything is possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steely Dan Posted May 1, 2010 Share Posted May 1, 2010 well i am not as impressed by the jests as you are i think - their biggest weakness is their raving manic of a coach - but he is entertaining - and yes they made the playoffs but don't forget how they made the playoffs . . . by other teams rolling over in the last week or in somecases the last two weeks - without all the help they got they would not have been in the playoffs and everyone knows this - i still think the patsies will be the team to beat this year - we are not there yet but anything could happen especially if we are better than 30th in the nfl against the run this year - and remember the o-line played very well in the first game of the season before injuries started taking its toll on the o-line so anything is possible If they had lost in the first week of the playoffs that would have a lot more validity to me but they made the championship game by beating two other playoff teams. I just think they started peaking at the right time. I think Ryan is a great HC. A lot of fire, used correctly, can really pump up a team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geno Smith's Arm Posted May 1, 2010 Share Posted May 1, 2010 How can our offense exploit their defense? Two very strong one-on-one corners and a first round pick that was the best cover corner drafted. They put these guys on an island and put nine in the box. Running against nine in the box is tough and passing against their corners might be pretty tough too. Good special teams coach and special teams in general. Good offensive line. Addition of Holmes adds speed to receiving corp. I don't want to roll over here by any means but man they look tough. The Bills aren't gonna beat them next year. The Bills will have to wait until they have an above average QB to beat them. Maybe in 2112.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted May 1, 2010 Share Posted May 1, 2010 There is a few things that the Jets should be concerned about 1- Left Guard- They are starting a rookie at left guard Mangold and Ferguson really struggled once Pete Kendal left. Yes Mangold and Ferguson are older but left guard is a major concern. Mangold and Ferguson are now going to be holding the hand of a rookie. 2- Mark Sanchez is their QB - Why should I be scared of the Jets passing attack when a guy who put up number similar to Jamarcus Russel is their QB. Just because their QB is a year older doesn't mean he will be better. Sanchez is a weakness. Older D-line- Kris Jenkins is coming off of injury and is over 30 and Shaun Ellis is 33 both guys are key in their front 7 and they are a lot older and have a lot of miles on them. If those guys break down the young guys behind them (DeVito and Sione Pouha) will have to step up and 1 of two things can happen 1- Young guys just aren't capable of stepping up 2- They step up but get worn down as the season goes on as the front 7 looses its depth. Pass Rush is determined by the blitz- They have one guy in Calvin Pace that is a pure pass rusher and he is an OLB they don't have a DE that can rush the passer and out of their OLB's they only have one guy who is a good pass rusher. So right now the Jets depend on the blitz a lot to rush the passer even with their corners good WR's can expose the scheme. Running back- Greene is their only real running back. Tomlinson is washed up, and Joe McKnight is a rookie. Also can Greene carry the load? All in all they have a ton of concerns yeah they have more talent on paper then us but come on Mark Sanchez isn't a guy who inspires a lot of confidence in the offense. Also the D has some concerns to it in the age of the D-line and the lack of more then one pure pass rusher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geno Smith's Arm Posted May 1, 2010 Share Posted May 1, 2010 There is a few things that the Jets should be concerned about 1- Left Guard- They are starting a rookie at left guard Mangold and Ferguson really struggled once Pete Kendal left. Yes Mangold and Ferguson are older but left guard is a major concern. Mangold and Ferguson are now going to be holding the hand of a rookie. 2- Mark Sanchez is their QB - Why should I be scared of the Jets passing attack when a guy who put up number similar to Jamarcus Russel is their QB. Just because their QB is a year older doesn't mean he will be better. Sanchez is a weakness. Older D-line- Kris Jenkins is coming off of injury and is over 30 and Shaun Ellis is 33 both guys are key in their front 7 and they are a lot older and have a lot of miles on them. If those guys break down the young guys behind them (DeVito and Sione Pouha) will have to step up and 1 of two things can happen 1- Young guys just aren't capable of stepping up 2- They step up but get worn down as the season goes on as the front 7 looses its depth. Pass Rush is determined by the blitz- They have one guy in Calvin Pace that is a pure pass rusher and he is an OLB they don't have a DE that can rush the passer and out of their OLB's they only have one guy who is a good pass rusher. So right now the Jets depend on the blitz a lot to rush the passer even with their corners good WR's can expose the scheme. Running back- Greene is their only real running back. Tomlinson is washed up, and Joe McKnight is a rookie. Also can Greene carry the load? All in all they have a ton of concerns yeah they have more talent on paper then us but come on Mark Sanchez isn't a guy who inspires a lot of confidence in the offense. Also the D has some concerns to it in the age of the D-line and the lack of more then one pure pass rusher. They are way better than the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted May 1, 2010 Share Posted May 1, 2010 Just put Holmes on a plane. He'll take the rest of the Jets down with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mary owen Posted May 1, 2010 Share Posted May 1, 2010 Chemistry, it can be a B word, especially with a Ryan at the helm. This makes no sense, respectfully. The guy coached them to the playoffs, started a rookie QB, and had a stellar D. Please explain the downside of having this coach in the AFC East? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsMagic1 Posted May 1, 2010 Share Posted May 1, 2010 This makes no sense, respectfully.The guy coached them to the playoffs, started a rookie QB, and had a stellar D. Please explain the downside of having this coach in the AFC East? Jets defense will get about 100 sacks as they will blitz anyone from anywhere. I don't even want to thnik when we play them what will happen. They destroyed Trent last year, by the 2ng Qtr he was done. They have no weaknesses other than kicker. They talk the talk and also walk the walk. we should have had Ryan as coach as he has assembled a bunch of nuts that will intimidate like Baltimore and Chicago did intheir heyday. Shonn Green is what Marshawn should have or could have been. Jnekins coming back and taylor and cromartie just make them better than last year if they do not implode. A lot of nuts on that team with Santonio, my guess is will be suspended soon again for airplane issue recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RkFast Posted May 1, 2010 Share Posted May 1, 2010 How can our offense exploit their defense? Two very strong one-on-one corners and a first round pick that was the best cover corner drafted. They put these guys on an island and put nine in the box. Running against nine in the box is tough and passing against their corners might be pretty tough too. Good special teams coach and special teams in general. Good offensive line. Addition of Holmes adds speed to receiving corp. I don't want to roll over here by any means but man they look tough. If you want to find out how to beat them, then just go watch films of the 80s Bears and Eagles and early 90s Cardinals. I have a funny feeling Ryan is going to run his dad's 46 defense more or less to a T. Hes got all the tools to do it. IMO, hes gonna drop those two corners back in coverage and just send the other 9 guys to the QB or RB on pretty much every down. Jets are a sick team. Talented, deep and well coached. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted May 1, 2010 Share Posted May 1, 2010 I think they, like any other team, can be beaten on any given Sunday. People are talking up the Jets like the Pats of 3 years ago. It's ridiculous. They created a weakness when they let go of Faneca IMO. True they still have Mangold and Ferguson, but anytime you get rid of an all pro OG it doesn't make things better. They've also weakened the backfield by getting rid of Jones and Washington. Greene burst onto the scene last year in the playoffs, but can he carry the load for a full season? Was his big games a product of "fresh legs" against tired teams? Guess we'll find out this year. The addition of LT doesn't even equal out the loss of Jones if you ask me. LT is washed up, a broken down old horse who was run into the ground by SD for a few years as Rivers was developing. Once an elite RB, far from that now. Third string, as of now, Joe McKnight (rookie from USC) whom I heard looked terrible at the minicamp session so far. Let's next talk about Sanchez. Sanchez has all the ability in the world, but he's still young. He's going to continue to make mistakes. I do expect him to be better this year, especially if he can click with Holmes and Edwards. I expect people to come after Sanchez alot more this year, see if they can rattle him. The best games he had were the games where the opposition didn't blitz very often. All in all, on paper anyway, the Jets look like the team to beat in the AFC East if not in the whole AFC. The injuries will be a determining factor, as they are for all teams. What if Revis gets hurt, Mangold or Ferguson go down, Bart Scott, Shonne Greene, or anyone else who is a key cog to the Jets machine? These things shape a season, as all of us Bills fans surely know. All it takes is the wrong guy/guys to go down to injury and your supposed 12-4 team could turn into a 6-10 team really quick. You gotta love variables, unless your team is on the short end of the stick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logical Reasoning Posted May 1, 2010 Author Share Posted May 1, 2010 If you want to find out how to beat them, then just go watch films of the 80s Bears and Eagles and early 90s Cardinals. I have a funny feeling Ryan is going to run his dad's 46 defense more or less to a T. Hes got all the tools to do it. IMO, hes gonna drop those two corners back in coverage and just send the other 9 guys to the QB or RB on pretty much every down. Jets are a sick team. Talented, deep and well coached. Ryan lets his defensive players play full throttle without having to over think themselves. This approach can be taken advantage of sometimes but not so much if they have talent which they do. I have no problem with Gailey because he has a pretty good resume, but Schottenheimer was my guy. He respects his own weaknesses and doesn't let other teams exploit them. I think the Bills game in the Meadowlands where they threw so many interceptions was a turning point for them. Schott and Ryan knew they had the defense to beat anyone, they just could not beat themselves with turnovers. Sanchez rarely threw more than twenty balls a game after that. I would be happy with a split this coming year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealityCheck Posted May 1, 2010 Share Posted May 1, 2010 We will beat the Jets at least once next year. They are not a flawless team by any stretch. The screen game, run/play action on early downs and short distances could get the job done. The Jets defense needs to be kept on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted May 1, 2010 Share Posted May 1, 2010 The Jets biggest weakness is their arrogance. They were 2-4 in division games last year. They won nothing last year. And the meter goes back to 0-0 every season. Its no sure thing that any of their offseason acquisitions are going to pan out anymore than it is for the Bills. They picked up two head cases at CB and WR. The fact that their old teams were willing to take very little for these 'stars' speaks loudly. Nobody seems to be listening to that message right now. Wait until they start screwing up under the NY media spotlight. And their free agent acquisitions while good players are past their prime. Looking at the Bills, the #1 problem they had against the Jets, and Dolphins, was stopping the run. They surrendered a staggering 1,004 yards rushing in those 4 games and by way of turnovers won 2 of them. Stopping the run and acquiring players for the 3-4 was the Bills priority in the draft. How good a job Buddy & Co. did won't be clear until they hit the field and start playing. I work with several long-time Jets season ticket holders and I find it interesting that while they are looking forward to the season they do not share the blind optimism about their team that some have expressed here. Perhaps through experience, they are cautious about expections similar to what most Bills fans have become. That all said, the Jets roster still looks superior to the Bills at this point in the offseason and a split looks good right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Cocktosten Posted May 1, 2010 Share Posted May 1, 2010 Chemistry, it can be a B word, especially with a Ryan at the helm. Huh? Yeah what a terrrible coach, he only got them to the AFC championship game with a rookie QB and and a turned over roster. What a dissapointment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted May 1, 2010 Share Posted May 1, 2010 They will implode IMO.......... They built an 'All Madden' team with trades & FA's which I doubt will create a winner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cåblelady Posted May 1, 2010 Share Posted May 1, 2010 Just put Holmes on a plane. He'll take the rest of the Jets down with him. That dang IPOD! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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