filthymcnasty08 Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/rumors/post/St...?urn=nfl,234419 Have fun Bills fans.....don't shoot the messenger pls. delete if this has been posted already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDD Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 I don't know Mark Miller but he clearly is full of crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthICE Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 I don't know Mark Miller but he clearly is full of crap. You dont' know much about their owners do you? They put more of an imporance on Character than anything and this is twice now his ass has embarrassed the franchise. Someone offers enough, he will be traded, you can bet on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 If you want to send a message, use Charles Robinson, apparently.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dailar Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 so conflicted. Would love to see a player of his ability here but I dont think I can handle routing for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VADC Bills Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 You dont' know much about their owners do you? They put more of an imporance on Character than anything and this is twice now his ass has embarrassed the franchise. Someone offers enough, he will be traded, you can bet on that. Everyone has their price but this won't happen. How else do you put a scare in Ben's arrogant a$$. I'd bet my empty wallet on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lets_go_bills Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 As much as we need a QB, I don't think we'd trade for Big Ben. We would have the same character concerns that Pitt has about him. Apparently, Ben is a jerk and some guys in the locker room do not like him. He's also immature. Why he feels the need to roll out with a goon squad of security to college frat parties is beyond me. He's a party animal and a freaking lightning rod for negative attention. While one could argue this could be a wake up call for him, (and it should be seeing how he narrowly avoided rape charges), and that a change of scenery may serve him well, he's still a risky player to take a chance on. He plays the premier position in sports, makes a lot of money and it would be a high cost to compensate Pitt for his services. He's talented, no doubt, and those two rings stand for something. But Ben has some serious problems and it would be hard to cheer for a morally corrupted individual such as him. But I do believe people can change. Who knows, maybe Dungy can intervene and help him before it's too late and he becomes the next Michael Vick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABills Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 You dont' know much about their owners do you? They put more of an imporance on Character than anything and this is twice now his ass has embarrassed the franchise. Someone offers enough, he will be traded, you can bet on that. So I guess they wouldn't take Lynch, Hardy and Whitner for Big Ben. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninSixburgh Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 While highly unlikely, don't be totally surprised if a Ben trade happened. I live in Pittsburgh, and since the Georgia DA gave the details of the events, I'd say the overwhelming majority of Steelers fans who have called in to various talk radio shows (both news based shows and sports talk shows) either support, or could live with a Roethlisberger trade. No team official has yet to come out and publicly support Ben. A local company pulled a sponsorship deal. Last night, at a highly visible dinner where he was awarded "Citizen of the Year", Steeler's owner Dan Rooney (also US Ambassador to Ireland) said he had no comment when asked if he supported Ben. The fact that he offered absolutely no inkling of support for Roethlisberger speaks volumes. He is considered one of the beloved and respected men in Pittsburgh. (A year ago when the Vegas scandal came out, Rooney and Tomlin were present and supportive when Ben held his press conference on that incident). I said in a post yesterday that as much as Bills fans bleed red, white and blue, Steelers fans devotion to the team (as opposed to any player) is remarkable. The City paints the friggin' fire hydrants black and gold! Ben has embarrassed the Rooney's, the Steelers and the City of Pittsburgh. The fans here are not stupid. They know a QB with Ben's talents are rare, but the vast majority of Pittsburghers have enough personal and civic pride that they currently find the thought of this guy being the face of the Steelers and the City nauseating. Local Steeler sports columnists have said over the past few days that the possibility of trading Roethlisberger, while unthinkable even this past weekend, is now something the Steelers are, and should be considering. Even before this latest scandal, Roethlisberger was regarding as an arrogant jerk by many who had come in contact with him. Since the Georgia story first broke, there have been almost daily stories emerging of local encounters where the guy came off as borish, arrogant or rude. Obviously, winning 2 Super Bowls in 5 years bought him a lot of acceptance. But most people were fine seperating Ben the jerk, from Ben the Super Bowl winning QB. With the exception of the most die-hard Steeler fans and Ben supporters, this latest episode and the graphic details that came out have eroded people's willingness to compartmentalize the QB vs. the Jerk (and possible rapist). His demeanor and appearance (greasy mullet / golf shirt) at his statement Tuesday night was viewed by many as indicative that he still does not get it. (He apparently got it before meeting with Goodell yesterday as he was sporting a new suit and haircut less than 12 hours later). Again, I don't think it will happen. But in the best interest of the Bills, I have been quietly pushing a "BANISH BEN TO BUFFALO" trade rumor. Some will ask what's the difference between Ben being the face of the Bills and the face of the Steelers. It' simple - the Bills have done enough to embarrass themselves the past 10 years. They have also been willing to deviate from their "character guy" philosophy on lesser talents. My feeling is if they're going to go for a guy with character issues, go for a franchise QB like Ben. (If it were to happen, I would just make sure my sister and nieces stay away from any of the places he is likely to hang out). Reality check - when the commotion dies down, the Steelers will most likely come to that same conclusion and Ben won't be going anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 I said in a post yesterday that as much as Bills fans bleed red, white and blue, Steelers fans devotion to the team (as opposed to any player) is remarkable. The City paints the friggin' fire hydrants black and gold! Right you are - I lived in SW PA for 11 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kota Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 Offer up our first round draft pick for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninSixburgh Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 Offer up our first round draft pick for him. The rumblings here are that it would take two first rounders (or a first rounder and a first round caliber player) for any serious consideration to begin. In my opinion, if I'm the Steelers, that makes sense. One experienced 2 time Super Bowl winning QB age 28 /in his prime = at least 2 first round players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPS Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 Right you are - I lived in SW PA for 11 years. Mark Miller? Whatever. Hey...Jim Kelly was no prince when in his prime. Granted, he was no rapist, but he possessed the "earned arrogance" of any great athlete. You can't put them up on that pedestal his whole life, give him a different set of rules because he can chuck it 70 yards and then ask him to play checkers in the park. Obey the law. Win games. If he ruffles a few feathers along the way, it will all be forgotten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saundena Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 So I guess they wouldn't take Lynch, Hardy and Whitner for Big Ben. Correct, but if we still had Ko "I'm with the Buffalo Bills and I'm worth millions" Simpson, they would prolly accept! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 Mark Miller? Whatever. Hey...Jim Kelly was no prince when in his prime. Granted, he was no rapist, but he possessed the "earned arrogance" of any great athlete. You can't put them up on that pedestal his whole life, give him a different set of rules because he can chuck it 70 yards and then ask him to play checkers in the park. Obey the law. Win games. If he ruffles a few feathers along the way, it will all be forgotten. ??? I was just commenting on the Steelers' fans and their ardor for their team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongLiveRalph Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 The rumblings here are that it would take two first rounders (or a first rounder and a first round caliber player) for any serious consideration to begin. In my opinion, if I'm the Steelers, that makes sense. One experienced 2 time Super Bowl winning QB age 28 /in his prime = at least 2 first round players No doubt. #9 pick overall and former 1st-rounder Lynch sounds good to me. Plus Ben is used to getting sacked (47 in '07, 46 in '08, 50 in '09) so he will feel right at home behind our O-Line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steely Dan Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 Just say no to dog killers and rapists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninSixburgh Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 No doubt. #9 pick overall and former 1st-rounder Lynch sounds good to me. Plus Ben is used to getting sacked (47 in '07, 46 in '08, 50 in '09) so he will feel right at home behind our O-Line. Actually, I think 1st rounder, plus Lee Evans is something the Steelers might give a sniff. They'd probably still want something else (like a future 2nd round pick). Since they dumped Santonio Holmes, they need a top line receiver. Evans in Pittsburgh would be a good fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBud Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 The Stillers fans should get Ben's mom a plane ticket to where Ben is and have her slap him sense into him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninSixburgh Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 Just say no to dog killers and rapists. I whole heartedly agree with one minor clarification: Just say no to "convicted" dog killers and rapists! Consider "accused but never charged" dog killers and rapists! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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