spartacus Posted January 16, 2010 Share Posted January 16, 2010 the stars have aligned for the Bills to make Mike Leach their next HC at least his press conferences would be worthwhile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el Tigre Posted January 16, 2010 Share Posted January 16, 2010 at least his press conferences would be worthwhile You're right about that. Don't know how he'd do as a HC tho. College and the NFL are so different,it's hard to guess how well a guy will do when going from one to the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExWNYer Posted January 16, 2010 Share Posted January 16, 2010 the stars have aligned for the Bills to make Mike Leach their next HC at least his press conferences would be worthwhile Good gawd, not this shite again. Cue the Senator... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynical Posted January 16, 2010 Share Posted January 16, 2010 Awesome! We can change the Bills fight song to: Linky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uforesircher Posted January 16, 2010 Share Posted January 16, 2010 the stars have aligned for the Bills to make Mike Leach their next HC at least his press conferences would be worthwhile please just give the leach thing a rest - i'd rather have dj back than leach - and i'd rather go to an all night dentist before having dj back. hope that puts it in perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistolPeaTear Posted January 16, 2010 Share Posted January 16, 2010 please just give the leach thing a rest - i'd rather have dj back than leach - and i'd rather go to an all night dentist before having dj back. hope that puts it in perspective. so youre saying youre excited by the prospect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester43 Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 ah who the hell cares...at this point it's all deck chairs on the titanic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartacus Posted January 17, 2010 Author Share Posted January 17, 2010 ah who the hell cares...at this point it's all deck chairs on the titanic maybe Leach could lock Ralph in an equipment shed when he came meddling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF Bills Fan Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 I don't think high paid NFL palyers would go for Leach's style. He uses humiliation to teach lessons and that works in college but not at a level where guys are paid millions and are used to getting coddled to a degree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 I don't think high paid NFL palyers would go for Leach's style. He uses humiliation to teach lessons and that works in college but not at a level where guys are paid millions and are used to getting coddled to a degree. Come on, EssEff ...one incident - ONE - in a 23-year coaching career, and so far it's still just an allegation, and you're branding Leach a tyrant? Sure, Leach's methods may be a bit 'unusual'... Discipline, Mike Leach style: Cruel, unusual and hilarious but The Captain's methods don't even approach those of Alabama's legendary Paul 'Bear' Bryant... 'In 1954, entering his first season as Texas A&M's coach, Bryant held a 10-day summer training camp in Junction, Texas. With Bryant weeding supposedly weak players from the strong by prohibiting water breaks in 100-plus-degree heat, the two dozen to three dozen players who didn't quit became known as the Junction Boys in Aggie lore. If there was a line football coaches weren't supposed to cross, no one dared voice it in those days.' link- Dallas Morning News: Leach enters Woody Hayes' league as attitudes shift, scrutiny grows Anyway, it's absolutely ridiculous to think that Leach - who does hold a masters degree in sports science/coaching - would be so narrow as to use the same motivational techniques on an NFL pro athlete that he uses on his Texas Tech boys. It may be time for The Captain to augment his fascination with pirates and Geronimo with something new - maybe a certain frontiersman and wild west showman named Bill Cody? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynical Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 Come on, EssEff ...one incident - ONE - in a 23-year coaching career, and so far it's still just an allegation, and you're branding Leach a tyrant? Can you twist statements and side step the issue any better? SF Bills fan did NOT call Leach a "tryant". He said Leach uses "humiliation" techinques ... Sure, Leach's methods may be a bit 'unusual'... Discipline, Mike Leach style: Cruel, unusual and hilarious ... which you prove Leach does by the above link. Good job proving SF Bills fan right. but The Captain's methods don't even approach those of Alabama's legendary Paul 'Bear' Bryant... 'In 1954, entering his first season as Texas A&M's coach, Bryant held a 10-day summer training camp in Junction, Texas. With Bryant weeding supposedly weak players from the strong by prohibiting water breaks in 100-plus-degree heat, the two dozen to three dozen players who didn't quit became known as the Junction Boys in Aggie lore. If there was a line football coaches weren't supposed to cross, no one dared voice it in those days.' link- Dallas Morning News: Leach enters Woody Hayes' league as attitudes shift, scrutiny grows Nice job. The Dallas News story is about Leach's inability to adjust his techniques to conform to newer attitudes regarding discipline and motivation. Anyway, it's absolutely ridiculous to think that Leach - who does hold a masters degree in sports science/coaching - would be so narrow as to use the same motivational techniques on an NFL pro athlete that he uses on his Texas Tech boys. Actually, it is pretty safe to assume he will use the same motivational techniques at the NFL level. He's egotistical and arrogant, and his "ways" have been successful. He continued using the same techniques even though attitudes shifted regarding those techniques. Instead of realizing he may have stepped over the line, he lashed out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zazie Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 Can you twist statements and side step the issue any better? SF Bills fan did NOT call Leach a "tryant". He said Leach uses "humiliation" techinques ... ... which you prove Leach does by the above link. Good job proving SF Bills fan right. Nice job. The Dallas News story is about Leach's inability to adjust his techniques to conform to newer attitudes regarding discipline and motivation. Actually, it is pretty safe to assume he will use the same motivational techniques at the NFL level. He's egotistical and arrogant, and his "ways" have been successful. He continued using the same techniques even though attitudes shifted regarding those techniques. Instead of realizing he may have stepped over the line, he lashed out. OR, maybe Adam James is just an entitled little prick who took the wind out of TTs sails for the next who knows who long, and his father is a creep and an ahole. Hmm, maybe thats it. Leach was a winner and his players graduated every time, that is huge. That said he is not a fit for HC as the Bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wing Man Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 Getting a strong feeling that Jim Fassel could be the next HC. Just a feeling, no rumor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynical Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 OR, maybe Adam James is just an entitled little prick who took the wind out of TTs sails for the next who knows who long, and his father is a creep and an ahole. And Leach got into a power struggle with the "entitled little prick" and lost. If Leach was half the "person" his defenders keep trying to make him out to be, TT does NOT cut him loose. And in case you haven't heard, Texas Tech recently hired Tommy Tuberville to be their new head coach. If Tubby comes close to matching Leach's success, in a couple of years, Red Raider fans will care less about Leach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 Can you twist statements and side step the issue any better? SF Bills fan did NOT call Leach a "tryant". He said Leach uses "humiliation" techinques ... ... which you prove Leach does by the above link. Good job proving SF Bills fan right. I was never trying to say EssEff was 'wrong', so I'm not quite clear on how I 'proved him right'. I was just stating that one ALLEGED case of abusing/humiliating a player over the course of a 23-year coaching career does not justify a generalization that Leach uses 'humiliation techniques'. Not sure exactly what your problem is, or who stole the jam from your donut, but didn't really think equating 'humiliation techniques' with 'tyranny' was that far of a reach and, since SF Fan didn't object, I guess he didn't either. BTW, exactly what issue did I "side step"? Nice job. The Dallas News story is about Leach's inability to adjust his techniques to conform to newer attitudes regarding discipline and motivation. The DN story was not about Leach's inability to adjust his coaching techniques. Not at all. Read it again. If that doesn't work, read it 3 or 4 more times. If that still doesn't work, there are reading comprehension clinics that may be able to help you. Briefly, the DN article was about a quantum shift in society's attitude toward and acceptance of the 'old school', military-type discipline methods of legendary coaches such as Bear Bryant, Woody Hayes, et al, and how Leach, Mangino, and others have fallen victim to that change. PM me for a list of reading comprehension centers in your area. Actually, it is pretty safe to assume he will use the same motivational techniques at the NFL level. He's egotistical and arrogant, and his "ways" have been successful. He continued using the same techniques even though attitudes shifted regarding those techniques. Instead of realizing he may have stepped over the line, he lashed out. Nice attempt at 'dumbest statement ever made on TSW'!!! LMFAO!!!!! :w00t: You're actually insisting that it's "safe to assume he will use the same motivational techniques at the NFL level", i.e., that he'll use the same methods on millionaire pro athletes that he uses on a teenager??? Besides being a ridiculously stupid notion, it would indicate your belief that, despite his masters degree in sports science/coaching and his law degree, Leach is completely unaware of the existence of an organization known as the NFLPA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 Has ever in sports history such a high visibility figure slipped into obscurity/oblivion faster than Mike Leach? There is zero outrage over that clown's firing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 And Leach got into a power struggle with the "entitled little prick" and lost.If Leach was half the "person" his defenders keep trying to make him out to be, TT does NOT cut him loose. And in case you haven't heard, Texas Tech recently hired Tommy Tuberville to be their new head coach. If Tubby comes close to matching Leach's success, in a couple of years, Red Raider fans will care less about Leach. .No. Absolutely wrong. Leach got into a 'power stuggle' with TT admin (i.e., AD Gerald Myers, Pres. Guy Bailey, Chancellor Kent Hance, et al) - NOT with Adam James. link - A detailed look at the Leach lawsuit As to who won and who lost, I believe the first preliminary hearing to decide that will take place on Wednesday. As for Tuberville, Leach put TT in a great position to win the Big 12 title this coming season - possibly even a BCS contender - so Tommy's got some big expectations staring him in the face. The real measure of Tuberville will be 3-4 years down the pike, when his own recruits and coaching staff will be fully responsible and accountable for the success or failure of TT's program. Of course, by then Leach and his offensive prowess will be the talk of either the PAC 10 or the NFL, whichever route he chooses to continue his meteoric rise through the coaching ranks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted January 28, 2010 Share Posted January 28, 2010 Has ever in sports history such a high visibility figure slipped into obscurity/oblivion faster than Mike Leach? There is zero outrage over that clown's firing. Is that the 'new math' they teach at Provincetown CSD? 60,000 = zero??? Sounds like 'fuzzy math' to me. You may call it "zero outrage", but 60,000 members-strong (and growing 'virally') Team Leach (link) would disagree... Team Leach: Hoisting the Sails, Techsans for Truth Apparently, even ESPN isn't very proud of being used as a pawn in Craig and Adam James personal vendetta against Leach... Mike Leach story highlights importance of journalism ethics ESPN Ombudsman Responds to James-Leach Saga and Eviscerates Mike Patrick As for "obscurity/oblivion", a quick google search would have kept you making yet another in your endless litany of senseless statements. The Leach case is in court-ordered mediation - meanwhile, Texas Tech's own attorneys are providing fuel for another lawsuit against the James family, once Tech settles with Leach... Tech filings reveal lawsuit threatTech filings reveal lawsuit threat Texas Tech attorney says Craig James threatened to sue over now-fired coach's treatment of son In the meantime, Leach has moved to Key West, and is chillin' with Jimmy Johnson, Terry Bradshaw, et al at Johnson's new bar, Jimmy's Big Chill... Leach moves to Key West to recharge Chillin' at Jimmy's Place - "Hey Craig- think I'd rather be coaching your son's dumb ass than doin' this? Yeah, right!" ...no doubt thanking the James family for the vacation, the impending huge settlement, and getting him out of his 5-year contract after one year so he can resume coaching at a better venue in 2011 or 2012. There's talk of Maryland, possibly even the Oakland Raiders - or you might see him on FOX with his pals Johnson and Bradshaw. One place your sure to see him is the cover of Lubbock's 2010 Yellow Pages - Texas Tech AD,Gerald Myer, President Gus Bailey, and Chancellor Kent Hance need to look up a phone #, there he'll be... Ex-Texas Tech coach Leach on cover of Lubbock Yellow Pages ...with a full-page ad for his attorney, Ted Liggett, gracing the back cover! (No doubt Hance and Bailey have issued a campus-wide order to all students, faculty, and staff that all directories be banned - or at least have both covers removed, under penalty of expulsion or termination. ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted January 28, 2010 Share Posted January 28, 2010 Is that the 'new math' they teach at Provincetown CSD? 60,000 = zero??? Sounds like 'fuzzy math' to me. You may call it "zero outrage", but 60,000 members-strong (and growing 'virally') Team Leach (link) would disagree... Team Leach: Hoisting the Sails, Techsans for Truth Apparently, even ESPN isn't very proud of being used as a pawn in Craig and Adam James personal vendetta against Leach... Mike Leach story highlights importance of journalism ethics ESPN Ombudsman Responds to James-Leach Saga and Eviscerates Mike Patrick As for "obscurity/oblivion", a quick google search would have kept you making yet another in your endless litany of senseless statements. The Leach case is in court-ordered mediation - meanwhile, Texas Tech's own attorneys are providing fuel for another lawsuit against the James family, once Tech settles with Leach. In the meantime, Leach has moved to Key West, and is chillin' with Jimmy Johnson, Terry Bradshaw, et al at Johnson's new bar, Jimmy's Big Chill... Leach moves to Key West to recharge Chillin' at Jimmy's Place - "Hey Craig- think I'd rather be coaching your son's dumb ass than doin' this? Yeah, right!" ...no doubt thanking the James family for the vacation, the impending huge settlement, and getting him out of his 5-year contract after one year so he can resume coaching at a better venue in 2011 or 2012. There's talk of Maryland, possibly even the Oakland Raiders - or you might see him on FOX with his pals Johnson and Bradshaw. One place your sure to see him is the cover of Lubbock's 2010 Yellow Pages - Texas Tech AD,Gerald Myer, President Gus Bailey, and Chancellor Kent Hance need to llok up a phone #, there he'll be... Ex-Texas Tech coach Leach on cover of Lubbock Yellow Pages ...with a full-page ad for his attorney, Ted Liggett, gracing the back cover! (No doubt Hance and Bailey have issued a campus-wide order to all students, faculty, and staff that all directories be banned - or at least have both covers - removed, under penalty of expulsion or termination. ) I'm sorry, but I'm going to need for you to make a stronger argument. More proof please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted January 28, 2010 Share Posted January 28, 2010 I'm sorry, but I'm going to need for you to make a stronger argument. More proof please OK... Link - "Damn! Nope, no fun goin' on here in Key West. Why the !@#$ am I doin' this, when I could be in beautiful Lubbock coachin' that dickwad Adam James, and talkin' to his a-hole dad five times a day???" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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