John from Riverside Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 Even if you dont like his lack of GM experience.....this is one area we need to be extremely excited about.....he has scouted the upcoming players as a scout now he will have say on who is drafted...... I eagerly await Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 Even if you dont like his lack of GM experience.....this is one area we need to be extremely excited about.....he has scouted the upcoming players as a scout now he will have say on who is drafted...... I eagerly await Me too. I am confident that we will pick well and with a purpose. I am excited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hossage Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 I just want anyone who was associated in any way with the Maybin pick to be run out of town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddog69 Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 I just want anyone who was associated in any way with the Maybin pick to be run out of town. Sure. But they could keep anyone associated with the Byrd, Wood, Levitre, Nelson picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthICE Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 Uh with Modrak and Guy still here you think anything is changing? Now if Modrak, guy etal are fired and Nix brings in the entire SD scouting dept, maybe we do well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartacus Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 Uh with Modrak and Guy still here you think anything is changing? Now if Modrak, guy etal are fired and Nix brings in the entire SD scouting dept, maybe we do well. this is true although Nix has a different title, the Inner Circle Jerk is still intact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills1960 Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 If you overlook the maybin pick, (which i know is hard), it was a pretty good draft last year. anytime you get 3 starters and a couple guys with some potential is a good draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Syracuse Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 Uh with Modrak and Guy still here you think anything is changing? Now if Modrak, guy etal are fired and Nix brings in the entire SD scouting dept, maybe we do well. You have no idea who was in charge of the Bills war room nor do you know who was calling the shots for the last three years. Modrak was highly thought of during his time in Philly and those idiots bitched when he drafted McNabb. Why don't you give him a year before you start your annual B word and whine parade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cale Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 Well, that's the exact point isn't it? If we let the same guy calling the shots (ie, Wilson) call the shots when our pick comes around, then we'll be exactly where we started. If we let the talent evaluators have the final say, we'll be fine. This run an org by committee thing has to end. Nix has to nix all that. He has to say, "We can all have our opinions, but me and coach are deciding." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thoner7 Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 You have no idea who was in charge of the Bills war room nor do you know who was calling the shots for the last three years. Modrak was highly thought of during his time in Philly and those idiots bitched when he drafted McNabb. Why don't you give him a year before you start your annual B word and whine parade. I understand your point. His title is director of college scouting - but maybe Ralph/Dick have come in and said "I want Maybin" "I want Whitner" etc. IF that were the case then Modrak needs a set of nuts. He is the chief scout. He spend 364 days a year preparing for that one day. If he cannot tell some medling owner or BS coach to F off because the player they want blows then I dont want him running the draft room - no matter how good he may be. As head of scouting the axe falls on his neck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 I understand your point. His title is director of college scouting - but maybe Ralph/Dick have come in and said "I want Maybin" "I want Whitner" etc. IF that were the case then Modrak needs a set of nuts. He is the chief scout. He spend 364 days a year preparing for that one day. If he cannot tell some medling owner or BS coach to F off because the player they want blows then I dont want him running the draft room - no matter how good he may be. As head of scouting the axe falls on his neck. The problem is that it was probably never Modrak's call to begin with. His job isn't to actually draft players, but merely to scout them. I doubt he has ever had any more authority than to suggest a certain pick to Ralph Wilson, Marv Levy/Russ Brandon and Dick Jauron, and if they choose not to follow his advice, there's not much he can do about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 You have no idea who was in charge of the Bills war room nor do you know who was calling the shots for the last three years. Modrak was highly thought of during his time in Philly and those idiots bitched when he drafted McNabb. Why don't you give him a year before you start your annual B word and whine parade. That's just it, this franchise always has an out when it comes to draft picks. Now, they can say it was DJ's fault whenever something goes awry. Modrak has been part and parcel of each draft since 2001. So naturally he doesn't get any blame because TD was here. We've had him for 9 seasons now, so his book is pretty much written. We've give him 9 years, 4 of which weren't with TD. Does that mean those 4 can be blamed on DJ? See a trend here? Only the guy who's not here is to blame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthICE Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 Even if you dont like his lack of GM experience.....this is one area we need to be extremely excited about.....he has scouted the upcoming players as a scout now he will have say on who is drafted...... I eagerly await Are you sure it was him that was the top guy for SD or was it AJ Smith? I am still awaiting proof of how much Nix really did for SD. Yeah he is an SEC Scout, so what? That doesn't make you GM material Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 Are you sure it was him that was the top guy for SD or was it AJ Smith? I am still awaiting proof of how much Nix really did for SD. Yeah he is an SEC Scout, so what? That doesn't make you GM material AJ Smith's background has always been in scouting pro personnel, Nix's was in college scouting where he was under Dwight Adams. Then both moved to SD with Butler, and if anyone who doesn't engage in revisionist memory would recall that Butler's first few years of drafts & FA acquisitions in SD were disasters (There's a reason you get to pick at the top of the draft for a few years in a row). Butler & Co also weren't very good in their head coach selections. Interestingly that Chargers got much better when Smith became GM and Nix was in charge of pro & college personnel. BTW, why should you need proof now when it never stopped you from ranting before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthICE Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 You have no idea who was in charge of the Bills war room nor do you know who was calling the shots for the last three years. Modrak was highly thought of during his time in Philly and those idiots bitched when he drafted McNabb. Why don't you give him a year before you start your annual B word and whine parade. We have given him 9 years, he sucks time to move on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthICE Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 AJ Smith's background has always been in scouting pro personnel, Nix's was in college scouting where he was under Dwight Adams. Then both moved to SD with Butler, and if anyone who doesn't engage in revisionist memory would recall that Butler's first few years of drafts & FA acquisitions in SD were disasters (There's a reason you get to pick at the top of the draft for a few years in a row). Butler & Co also weren't very good in their head coach selections. Interestingly that Chargers got much better when Smith became GM and Nix was in charge of pro & college personnel. BTW, why should you need proof now when it never stopped you from ranting before? I want to see the proof. Seems the fans of Nix being promoted think he is the reason the chargers are so good. Something about so many of his draft picks being pro bowlers. Well if they were his picks then he ran the draft for them. And you bring up another point, who is going to handle free agency? As you said that is not Nix's nitch. Surely we aren't keeping John Guy and modrak to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanInUticaTampa Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 I want to see the proof. Seems the fans of Nix being promoted think he is the reason the chargers are so good. Something about so many of his draft picks being pro bowlers. Well if they were his picks then he ran the draft for them. Well, you see, I don't know what kind of proof you want, but I guess I can explain to you how the nfl and football works. Now, there is this thing called the draft. The one who makes the final decision on the draft choices is well, the GM. In san diego, when ALL those pro bowlers came into the team, buddy nix was the assistant GM and Director of Player Personnel. Now, I am not a genius or anything, but most people would understand that he was 2nd in command on those draft choices, and thus, being a MAJOR player on those choices. If you need more proof than that, like warroom footage, then you must be one of those conspiricy nuts that bitches about the moon landing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 I want to see the proof. Seems the fans of Nix being promoted think he is the reason the chargers are so good. Something about so many of his draft picks being pro bowlers. Well if they were his picks then he ran the draft for them. And you bring up another point, who is going to handle free agency? As you said that is not Nix's nitch. Surely we aren't keeping John Guy and modrak to do that. What proof do you want on December 31, 2009? That Chargers drafts and street free agent signings from 2001 through 2008 have been head and shoulders above what Bills have done over that time? What more could you ask for before the guy even had a chance to arrange his office furniture? If Bills had signed Gettelman what proof do you have of his GM credentials? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flbillsfan#1 Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 I want to see the proof. Seems the fans of Nix being promoted think he is the reason the chargers are so good. Something about so many of his draft picks being pro bowlers. Well if they were his picks then he ran the draft for them. And you bring up another point, who is going to handle free agency? As you said that is not Nix's nitch. Surely we aren't keeping John Guy and modrak to do that. We will have to wait & see how the Bills draft & how S.D. drafts this year. That should give us a fair idea of Nix's ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flbillsfan#1 Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 Are you sure it was him that was the top guy for SD or was it AJ Smith? I am still awaiting proof of how much Nix really did for SD. Yeah he is an SEC Scout, so what? That doesn't make you GM material Nix was assistant GM for S.D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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