Dave_In_Norfolk Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 FWIW, I got the sarcasm. Now, a question for you. Where is the liberal outrage and protest for the events that are taking place in Iran? Aren't liberals supposed to be peace loving, pro-human rights, and anti-government oppression? They certainly are when it comes to terror suspects in Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo. Does that same liberal compassion not apply to innocent citizens protesting a tyrannical government? Allow me to answer that for you. There is no mass concern because CNN, NPR, MSNBC, Janeane Garofalo, and Michael Moore are not telling you to be concerned. Typical liberal hypocrisy at it's finest. Sheep will be sheep. I'm just surprised that you have taken time away from the outrage over the murder of all the unborns to care about Iranians. Your compassion know no ends Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_In_Norfolk Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 Waited for his report from polling the American public's opinion on what he should have done. He didn't do that with Afganistan, he led and the people did follow. Same with health care. And I suppose doing something about global warming isn't going to be too popular either. Say what you want about him, but he doesn't just chase after opinion polls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Frenkle Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 Looks like some semblance of rationality has once again set in and another wingnut "outrage" has gone by the wayside. Don't worry, there will be at least three more this week. Fukkin idiots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 FWIW, I got the sarcasm. Now, a question for you. Where is the liberal outrage and protest for the events that are taking place in Iran? Aren't liberals supposed to be peace loving, pro-human rights, and anti-government oppression? They certainly are when it comes to terror suspects in Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo. Does that same liberal compassion not apply to innocent citizens protesting a tyrannical government? Allow me to answer that for you. There is no mass concern because CNN, NPR, MSNBC, Janeane Garofalo, and Michael Moore are not telling you to be concerned. Typical liberal hypocrisy at it's finest. Sheep will be sheep. Every news program I've listened to (mainstream, liberal, corporate sponsored, independent, et al) has covered it in great detail. Just like the President's comments, what would you have them do? Hold a peace rally? Candlelight vigil? What? What action could the flaming liberals among us take that would possibly appease you in all your human-rights insatiability? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 I'm just surprised that you have taken time away from the outrage over the murder of all the unborns to care about Iranians. Your compassion know no ends When life begins is just speculation. If you believe it starts at conception, then its hard to argue with the "Pro Life" group. Both sides of that argument should feel for the Iranians that were slaughtered by an oppressive government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 He didn't do that with Afganistan, he led and the people did follow. Same with health care. And I suppose doing something about global warming isn't going to be too popular either. Say what you want about him, but he doesn't just chase after opinion polls Regarding health care, when the president had committed himself to this idea of health care reform, most people were overwhelmingly supportive of health care, which most people still are, just not this one, but once people started seeing what was in this "reform", that's when people started running away from it, by that time, BO had spent too much political capital on this issue for him to turn back. In regards to Afghanistan, most people believe he made the right decision, which in my view there was no other logical decision to make than the one he did. All his military advisors Gates, Patraeus and McChrystal were advising him to move forward with hit, even the NATO commander was pressuring him to do so as well. In regards to global warming, most people believe that something has to be done, but once again, Cap and Trade just like Health Care Reform will prove to be unpopular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_In_Norfolk Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 Regarding health care, when the president had committed himself to this idea of health care reform, most people were overwhelmingly supportive of health care, which most people still are, just not this one, but once people started seeing what was in this "reform", that's when people started running away from it, by that time, BO had spent too much political capital on this issue for him to turn back. In regards to Afghanistan, most people believe he made the right decision, which in my view there was no other logical decision to make than the one he did. All his military advisors Gates, Patraeus and McChrystal were advising him to move forward with hit, even the NATO commander was pressuring him to do so as well. In regards to global warming, most people believe that something has to be done, but once again, Cap and Trade just like Health Care Reform will prove to be unpopular. The point is, if he is doing something the people support he's chasing after the polls If he does something the day by day polls are against he is thwarting the will of America. Can't really win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 The point is, if he is doing something the people support he's chasing after the polls If he does something the day by day polls are against he is thwarting the will of America. Can't really win I guess that's what being a president is all about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Big Man Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 Every news program I've listened to (mainstream, liberal, corporate sponsored, independent, et al) has covered it in great detail. Just like the President's comments, what would you have them do? Hold a peace rally? Candlelight vigil? What? What action could the flaming liberals among us take that would possibly appease you in all your human-rights insatiability? How about getting back to the security that we had under the Bush administration. How about calling this what is, a terrorist attack. Making DHS mean what it did a year ago. Not having paralysis by analysis. Profiling works. No attacks for 7 and half years and now 2 in 3 months under Obama's * administration. We are so PC and now have a Pres* that apologizes for our actions. Barry Obama* is making us weak. If we were a joke when GWB was in Office then we are comedy series with these clowns..the laughing stock of the world. The Prez.* is more worried about cramming a shady healthcare bill down our throats( where there is 66% opposition by the by) than creating jobs or stimulating the economy the right way or dealing with the all to real threat of global terrorism which comes from the same radical religion he himself is a part of. No wonder we wants to take it easy on Iraq, Iran and Afganistan. We all better wake up before it is to late. Mid-term elections in 2010 will prove he and his experiment has failed. I just hope that the next Rep. Pez. in 2012 can clean this HUGE mess up. That potential bomber had ties to terrorist that Obama* set free from Gitmo. Kinder , gentler my ass. Lay these bastards to waste. Look at whats happening in Iran, large majorities are going up against radical gov't. and getting killed because of it, seem familiar. No one cared about Hitler until he came for them. Don't wait until he comes for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Big Man Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 How very liberal of you. I'm sure that you approve of weakness as a foreign policy strategy. Dude he is obviously trolling . When small minded people run out of ideas that is what you get. School yard tactics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Big Man Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 Yes and Bush should have left the classroom immediately.....that's where I categorize this rubbish as well........... Bush was in Office for 8 months when this happened and there were 3000 deaths. He was trying not to raise hysteria. Cool and collected, then he got down to business. Bush said the people that did this would hear from us soon and they did. now Obama * is apologizing for that. I fail to see the comparison but good luck fitting that square peg in that round hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RI Bills Fan Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 Dude I'm obviously trolling . When closed minded people like me run their mouths, this is what you get. School yard tactics. Namecalling, and Horse Manure disguised as a weak political debate. Fixed that for ya... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 Bush was in Office for 8 months when this happened and there were 3000 deaths. He was trying not to raise hysteria. Cool and collected, then he got down to business. Bush said the people that did this would hear from us soon and they did. now Obama * is apologizing for that. I fail to see the comparison but good luck fitting that square peg in that round hole. Yeah, they heard from us all right. Taliban reconstituted, OBL still livin' large. Then again, Bush admitted he really didn't think about OBL that much so it's not surprising they would divert resources AWAY from Afghanistan to support the war in Iraq. Bush and Co. took their eyes of the prize and as a result the perpetrators of 9/11 have been allowed to regroup, re-orgnaize, and recruit more terrorists for their cause. That staged bull-horn moment at ground zero had a lot of us believing we'd get the bastards. Little did we know our leadership didn't really give a crap about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary M Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 I think Ghandi would have disagreed, But George Washington wouldn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ieatcrayonz Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 But George Washington wouldn't. Maybe Ghandi was ahead of his time and hiding explosives in all of that underwear he always had on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary M Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 If the Iranian government is to be overthrown, it is the place of the Iranian people to do that, not ours. And if they do it, they should be able to implement any form of government they want, not one that is forced upon them. Unfortunately, people, innocent civilians die when things like this happen. I am glad that the French didn't think like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim in Anchorage Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 Yeah, they heard from us all right. Taliban reconstituted, OBL still livin' large. Then again, Bush admitted he really didn't think about OBL that much so it's not surprising they would divert resources AWAY from Afghanistan to support the war in Iraq. Bush and Co. took their eyes of the prize and as a result the perpretators of 9/11 have been allowed to regroup, re-orgnaize, and recruit more terrorists for their cause. That staged bull-horn moment at ground zero had a lot of us believing we'd get the bastards. Little did we know our leadership didn't really give a crap about that. Thats like saying because Adolf Eichmann was able to hid in South America for 17 years WWll was a failure. When are you people going to going to understand 8 years of no terrorist attacks was the goal, not some frail raghead hiding in a cave in Pakistan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 I think Ghandi would have disagreed, given that India is now the world's largest democracy. And I don't recall citizens taking to the streets with guns in Eastern Europe in the 80s. In the past century, those groups that took up arms against their gov't ended up just replacing one form of oppression with another, as in Cuba and China. I doubt those in America who stockpile weapons because they're afraid of this "socialist" president would be very tolerant of those that differ with their views if they were in power. And they wouldn't leave it up to the voters to decide. The 1984 scenario. Dude, they've been that since 1947. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 Thats like saying because Adolf Eichmann was able to hid in South America for 17 years WWll was a failure.When are you people going to going to understand 8 years of no terrorist attacks was the goal, not some frail raghead hiding in a cave in Pakistan? The Eichmann comparison is a bit of a stretch to say the least. You can do better than that. And if the goal was simply no more terrorist attacks then that should have been stated instead of the ludicrous "dead or alive" crap spewed by bullhorn boy. Everyday those bastards in the Taliban and al-Queda are held unaccountable is another day of dishonor to the fighting men and women sent there to bring them to justice. I'm pretty sure that the goal WASN'T to let the Taliban and al-Queda re-emerge as powers after the sacrifices made to dismantle them. I don't think I'm alone in wanting those responsible for attacking us brought to justice. But if you're OK with it what can I say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim in Anchorage Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 And I think Ghandi would have disagreed, given that India is now the world's largest democracy. I don't recall citizens taking to the streets with guns in Eastern Europe in the 80s. In the past century, those groups that took up arms against their gov't ended up just replacing one form of oppression with another, as in Cuba and China. I doubt those in America who stockpile weapons because they're afraid of this "socialist" president would be very tolerant of those that differ with their views if they were in power. And they wouldn't leave it up to the voters to decide. The 1984 scenario. They didn't need to. Reagan projected a strong, Decisive foreign policy and bankrupted their Soviet masters as a result. Do you think todays "well I certainly respect the protesters in Iran, and as soon as I check in with France I will get back to you" policy would have resulted in the break up of the Soviet Union? ' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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