Steely Dan Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 If the trade deadline hadn't passed yet and Philly called Russ and offered Peters for Eric Wood and Shawn Nelson would you want Russ to Get'r done? Even though the Bills desperately need a tackle I'd still say no. The two players the Bills got are worth more than Peters to me. Wood is a stud and Nelson shows a lot of promise. JMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewildrabbit Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 Yea but it still doesn't diminish the stupidity of the Bills not trying to find a replacement OT in the draft or free agency. It is the O line that has made this team so horrid offensively and the tackle position to be exact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steely Dan Posted November 19, 2009 Author Share Posted November 19, 2009 Yea but it still doesn't diminish the stupidity of the Bills not trying to find a replacement OT in the draft or free agency. It is the O line that has made this team so horrid offensively and the tackle position to be exact. They didn't know that Butler would be gone for the season, but I agree they should have had better depth. JMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 If the trade deadline hadn't passed yet and Philly called Russ and offered Peters for Eric Wood and Shawn Nelson would you want Russ to Get'r done? Even though the Bills desperately need a tackle I'd still say no. The two players the Bills got are worth more than Peters to me. Wood is a stud and Nelson shows a lot of promise. JMO The trade isn't finished yet. Most likely it will go like this: Bills get: 1) Wood 2) Nelson 3) a 6th rounder next draft Bills give up: 1) Peters 2) a first-round draft pick in the next two years which they use to get a decent LT to replace Peters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynical Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 The JP ship has sailed. I agree with rabbit that the Bills should have done more in the off season looking for his replacement. Thinking they could go into the season with Walker and/or Tinkerbell at that spot was a horrendous mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ (not THAT RJ) Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 The JP ship has sailed. I agree with rabbit that the Bills should have done more in the off season looking for his replacement. Thinking they could go into the season with Walker and/or Tinkerbell at that spot was a horrendous mistake. Indeed. For what it is worth, by the way, the Philly media are all over Peters for not being willing to play with minor injuries. Howard Eskin (well-respected local reporter and radio guy) refers to him as the "Pillsbury Doughboy," and argues that Peters has lots of talent and no desire, especially now that he has made his big bucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 Does anyone pay attention to how Peters is playing in Philly? Why would you pay anyone that kind of money for an average player? How many sacks has he given up? How many games has he missed due to injury? PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 Indeed. For what it is worth, by the way, the Philly media are all over Peters for not being willing to play with minor injuries. Howard Eskin (well-respected local reporter and radio guy) refers to him as the "Pillsbury Doughboy," and argues that Peters has lots of talent and no desire, especially now that he has made his big bucks. How does a guy keep his mind on his job when he's worried about his contract? PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricojes Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 Does anyone pay attention to how Peters is playing in Philly? Sadly, many do. There is a post a week regarding Peters. Some people just like to play the "what if" or "should of, could of, would of" game. A perfect example is all the Orakpo posts, nothinig you can do but B word about it and some here sure can... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ (not THAT RJ) Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 How does a guy keep his mind on his job when he's worried about his contract? PTR BTW, that quilt is pretty awesome. You obviously chose your in-laws well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonidas Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 Does anyone pay attention to how Peters is playing in Philly? Why would you pay anyone that kind of money for an average player? How many sacks has he given up? How many games has he missed due to injury? PTR Exactly. Peters is having an average year at best. I heard a report somewhere that he's given up four sacks and has missed what, two games already? I try not to pay attention to it...but it's hard. Look, Langston Walker wasn't up to the task. Fine. Demetrius Bell doesn't appear to be either. In hindsight Oher would have been a good pick at #11 (especially over Maybin who I really think is gonna bust), but paying Peters would not have solved the problem. Ask the Philadelphia faithful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnTheRocks Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 push Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conch Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 One in the hand is with two in the bush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 BTW, that quilt is pretty awesome. You obviously chose your in-laws well. Thanks for noticing. My wife and in-laws are big into the fabric arts, now my daughter is too. FYI that avatar does not convey how large that quilt really is. A real work of art IMO. I love it. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastMode54 Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 here's the latest note on Peters Eagles LT Jason Peters (ankle) put in a full practice Wednesday and will almost certainly start Sunday. Don't expect any surprise de-activations this time. Peters is taking a lot of heat for being soft and not playing through nicks in practice or games. Peters will protect Donovan McNabb's blind side in a game the Eagles figure to pass the ball at least 65-70 percent of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynical Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 Exactly. Peters is having an average year at best. I heard a report somewhere that he's given up four sacks and has missed what, two games already? I try not to pay attention to it...but it's hard. Look, Langston Walker wasn't up to the task. Fine. Demetrius Bell doesn't appear to be either. In hindsight Oher would have been a good pick at #11 (especially over Maybin who I really think is gonna bust), but paying Peters would not have solved the problem. Ask the Philadelphia faithful. The truly sad part is while Peters is 'average', he is still better than his replacements. Yes, Peters has missed 2 games. Walker, his first replacement, has been cut, never making it to regular season. Tinkerbell, his second replacement is now gone for the year, and was the most penalized OL this year. Don't want to pay Peters huge money for average play? Fine. But you better have a legitimate plan in place to replace him. When they announced they were going with Walker, I knew then it was going to be a disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 Indeed. For what it is worth, by the way, the Philly media are all over Peters for not being willing to play with minor injuries. Howard Eskin (well-respected local reporter and radio guy) refers to him as the "Pillsbury Doughboy," and argues that Peters has lots of talent and no desire, especially now that he has made his big bucks. That was my fear should the Bills have paid him what he wanted. I think ultimately, they should have found a replacement. But for all of his contract squabbles, and hold-outs, the Bills actually got the better end of this deal. For starters, they were able to obtain both a first round draft pick (used to select Wood) and a later round pick next year. Considering that he was an undrafted college TE which cost the Bills nothing, that is a pretty good return on investment. Secondly, his contract squabbles were an undermining influence to the team. He had just signed a contract, and before the ink is even dry he then demands a new one, holds out, and really hinders the team with his absence. Thirdly, the comments made by the Bills that they wanted to get tougher on the offensive line was a reason why Dockery, Preston, and Fowler were released. Giving the number of sacks Peters gave up last year, and his annoyingly selfish contract demands, and with the News now coming out of Philly, could it be that he was one of the weaknesses that the staff was talking of? Finally, Wood is a stud and perhaps the brightest prospect drafted by the Bills for the offensive line in almost 2 decades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WellDressed Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 ???????? No sane GM would even CONSIDER that trade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnTheRocks Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 The trade isn't finished yet. Most likely it will go like this: Bills get: 1) Wood 2) Nelson 3) a 6th rounder next draft Bills give up: 1) Peters 2) a first-round draft pick in the next two years which they use to get a decent LT to replace Peters Can someone fill me in a little on this bold part? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WellDressed Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 Indeed. Howard Eskin (well-respected local reporter and radio guy) . RJ, where do you get Howard Eskin being respected. The guy golfs alone, no one will play with him. He golfs at Ashbourne and is always a single. I have run into him a dozen or so times, I know of no one who likes that clown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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