MIKE VICK IN BUFFALO.....WHAT???? No, not right now

[mob16151]

Yeah, he can, and he is.

 

Not many of you people actually watch football, do you? What Vick did off the field is egregious enough, but as bad a person as he is, he might be a worse quarterback. The guy is flat-out useless. The Bills are even more of a joke if they sign Vick and entrust their offense to him.

 

Dude look at thier career stats. He reallly can't be any worse than either TE or Fitz.

[grelit]

Only if Dungy comes with him...

[inkman]

Here we go again Vick's a scumbag without a conscience...the Bills would lose ticket sales bringing in someone like that

Apparently you don't know the psyche of the average Bills fan.

[mrags]

why don't we just sign OJ Simpson to play RB when he gets out of prison? At least he's actually played his position well. Vick's never been a good QB...just an athlete who can throw the ball with low accuracy on occasion

 

So your saying hes just like Trent Edwards or JP losman without the actual wins?

[I Billieve]

no doubt...people forget that. Little kids lost their best friends to that monster..so besides the fact that anyone who supports Vick has no love for dogs, they have a serious dislike of children as well....because children were hurt by that scumbag

 

 

 

This is one of the dumbest things I have read on this forum. Correlating liking Vick with seriously disliking children just shows me that some people on this forum shouldn't have contact with people outside there fantasy world.

 

My personal statement...

I like Vick being back in the NFL. The guy did something terrible but he served his time, he took his punishment. In addition, I have no disdain or negative feelings towards children. I would enjoy seeing Vick in a Buffalo Uni, I think he would do great things with this team (if we had a new coach).

 

Say no to drugs! Stay in School!

[Gordio]

ummm...you DO realize that football is a team game...Vick has no wins or losses...regular season or postseason

 

 

It is thinking like that, that has kept the bills out of the playoffs for the last 10yrs. I am going to make this simple for you. Look around the league & look at the good teams. Indy, NE, Cincy, Pitt, SD, Denv,Minn, NO,Philly, Dallas, Arizona, Atl etc.. all have good play from the QB position. You think that is a coincidence. Find a franchise qb & this team will make the playoffs even with all of their shortfalls. You put Brees on this team & they are no worse then 6-2 right now, probably 7-1 with the only loss being Miami. That is how important the qb position. This board has the opinion that the qb play is just one small function of the whole machine, it is just pure BS. I guess watching 10yrs of miserable qb play will do that to a fan base.

 

Now the question is; is Mike Vick the answer. I do not necassarily think he is the answer but I will say this he is better then anybody we got on the roster & it is not even close. He will be available next year, noway with the recent play of Kolb is Philly going to pay him 5.2 mill to play a handfull of plays each game. I would bring him in, it could not hurt. I am an animal lover(own 2 dogs) but the man has paid his time. Everybody deserves a 2nd chance.

[Gordio]

One more thing, for those who are saying he is not a good qb, I just do not think that is true. I have not watched a ton of Atlanta games when he was the qb but looking at his stats, no doubt his passing numbers our pedestrian, but I think what makes up for that is his rushing numbers. I just remember when he played against the bills in 2005 I believe, just seeing him run away from one after another defender like they were standing still, I was simply amazed. Here are his career stats. I dont think once figuring in the rushing tds are too shabby. Plus he has a .570 winning % as a starter.

 

 

2009 Philadelphia Eagles 6 6 2 33.3 1.0 6 1.0 1.0 0 0.0 0 0.0 5 0 0 0 0 42.4

 

2006 Atlanta Falcons 16 388 204 52.6 24.2 2,474 6.4 154.6 20 5.2 13 3.4 55 30 8 45 303 75.7

 

2005 Atlanta Falcons 15 387 214 55.3 25.8 2,412 6.2 160.8 15 3.9 13 3.4 58 27 3 33 201 73.1

 

2004 Atlanta Falcons 15 321 181 56.4 21.4 2,313 7.2 154.2 14 4.4 12 3.7 62 35 8 46 266 78.1

 

2003 Atlanta Falcons 5 100 50 50.0 20.0 585 5.9 117.0 4 4.0 3 3.0 49 7 2 9 64 69.0

 

2002 Atlanta Falcons 15 421 231 54.9 28.1 2,936 7.0 195.7 16 3.8 8 1.9 74T 44 8 33 206 81.6

 

2001 Atlanta Falcons 8 113 50 44.2 14.1 785 6.9 98.1 2 1.8 3 2.7 52 11 4 21 113 62.7

 

TOTAL 80 1,736 932 53.7 21.7 11,511 6.6 143.9 71 4.1 52 3.0 74 154 33 187 1,153 75.6

 

 

Rushing

Year Team G Att Att/G Yds Avg Yds/G TD Lng 1st 1st% 20+ 40+ FUM

2009 Philadelphia Eagles 6 12 2.0 27 2.3 4.5 0 11 3 25.0 0 0 0

 

2006 Atlanta Falcons 16 123 7.7 1,039 8.4 64.9 2 51 55 44.7 11 1 4

 

2005 Atlanta Falcons 15 102 6.8 597 5.9 39.8 6 32 41 40.2 5 0 5

 

2004 Atlanta Falcons 15 120 8.0 902 7.5 60.1 3 58 49 40.8 10 3 3

 

2003 Atlanta Falcons 5 40 8.0 255 6.4 51.0 1 43 14 35.0 2 1 1

 

2002 Atlanta Falcons 15 113 7.5 777 6.9 51.8 8 46T 44 38.9 10 3 5

 

2001 Atlanta Falcons 8 31 3.9 289 9.3 36.1 1 35 15 48.4 6 0 1

 

TOTAL 80 541 6.8 3,886 7.2 48.6 21 58 221 40.9 44 8 19

 

 

Receiving

Year Team G Rec Yds Avg Yds/G Lng TD 20+ 40+ 1st FUM

2009 Philadelphia Eagles 6 -- -- -- 0.0 -- -- -- -- -- --

 

2006 Atlanta Falcons 16 1 1 1.0 0.1 1 0 0 0 0 0

 

2005 Atlanta Falcons 15 1 -14 -14.0 -0.9 -14 0 0 0 0 0

 

2004 Atlanta Falcons 15 -- -- -- 0.0 -- -- -- -- -- --

 

2003 Atlanta Falcons 5 -- -- -- 0.0 -- -- -- -- -- --

 

2002 Atlanta Falcons 15 0 16 -- 1.1 16 0 0 0 1 0

 

2001 Atlanta Falcons 8 -- -- -- 0.0 -- -- -- -- -- --

 

TOTAL 80 2 3 1.5 0.0 16 0 0 0 1 0

 

 

Defensive

Tackles Interceptions

Year Team G Comb Total Ast Sck SFTY PDef Int TDs Yds Avg Lng

2009 Philadelphia Eagles 6 0 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 0.0 --

 

2006 Atlanta Falcons 16 0 -- -- -- 0 -- -- -- -- 0.0 --

 

2005 Atlanta Falcons 15 3 3 0 0.0 0 0 -- -- -- 0.0 --

 

2004 Atlanta Falcons 15 1 1 0 0.0 0 0 -- -- -- 0.0 --

 

2003 Atlanta Falcons 5 0 -- -- -- 0 -- -- -- -- 0.0 --

 

2002 Atlanta Falcons 15 0 -- -- -- 0 -- -- -- -- 0.0 --

 

2001 Atlanta Falcons 8 0 -- -- -- 0 -- -- -- -- 0.0 --

 

TOTAL 80 4 4 0 0.0 0 0 0 0 0 -- 0

 

 

Fumbles

Year Team G FUM Lost FF Rec Rec Yds Yds TD OOB Sfty TB

2009 Philadelphia Eagles 6 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --

 

2006 Atlanta Falcons 16 9 3 -- 2 1 0 4 0 1 0 0

 

2005 Atlanta Falcons 15 11 5 0 -- -- -- -- -- 0 0 0

 

2004 Atlanta Falcons 15 16 7 0 4 -- 0 -- -- 0 0 0

 

2003 Atlanta Falcons 5 4 1 -- 1 -- 0 -- -- 0 0 0

 

2002 Atlanta Falcons 15 9 6 -- 1 -- 0 -- -- 0 0 0

 

2001 Atlanta Falcons 8 6 5 -- -- -- -- -- -- 0 0 0

 

TOTAL 80 55 27 0 8 1 0 4 0 1 0 0

 

 

 

 

 

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[dbringer]

Would you take Mike Vick/Dick Jauron or Trent Edwards/anybody else?

[timba]

Vick is definitely a skilled player, but as a person is a POS. He may have paid his debt to society, but I don't believe he deserves the right to make millions of dollars again. I SEE him doing the right things, but I think he's doing them for the wrong reason. I see him as a person who's sorry that he got caught, not a person who's sorry that he did it.

[BuffOrange]

I guess I don't understand the morality debate. He's a scumbag and whether or not he deserves a '2nd chance' he's going to get it from someone - we all know that. But like someone else said that doesn't mean I have to be the one that gives it to him, or that I have some obligation to feel good about rooting for him.

 

And stop referencing the GB playoff game. Favre turned the ball over a billion times in that game and Culpepper won a playoff game there too.

[Maddog69]

I will take Vick as long as Dungy comes along with him to be our new HC

[loyal2dagame]

roscoe parrish- arrested for DUI

 

ko simpson- arrested for hindering a police investigation

 

marshawn lynch- arrested for hit and run

 

marchawn lynch arrested for possession of weapon

 

donte whitner- arrested for aggravated disorderly conduct and resisting arrest

 

travis henry- while in buffalo- arrested for attempted sexual misconduct for trying to have sexual contact with a 15yr old girl

 

anthony hargrove- Arrested for resisting arrest, harassment & criminal mischief after allegedly striking a police officer outside a nightclub

 

rodney wright- Arrested on four charges, including driving while intoxicated after he was involved in a three-car accident in a suburb of Buffalo.

 

charles rogers- Arrested in the parking lot of a New Jersey go-go bar and charged with committing aggravated assault, making terroristic threats, resisting arrest and disorderly conduct.

 

sheldon jackson- Arrested on misdemeanor charges of driving with a suspended license and marijuana possession

 

 

 

 

now, i'm not trying to make light of what vick did. but bills fans have been rooting for criminals for years. including a child molester.(travis henry)

 

and you guys still rooted for them........ players who commited crimes against people and children

 

but some poeple will not give vick a chance because he did horrible, horrible things to animals?

 

wtf is wrong with society these days that crimes against animals take precedence over crimes against people?

 

again, I in no way think what vick did should be accepted by any means. i'm just stating that everyone that is a bills fan have been rooting for people that in my view have done worse.

[cowtippur]

Would you take Mike Vick/Dick Jauron or Trent Edwards/anybody else?

I'll take Edwards and new HC, but also a qb in the draft to sit for a year. By then we should know for sure one way or the other on Trent, and have either trade material in our drafted qb or have him ready to go.

[Mike in Syracuse]

I will take Vick as long as Dungy comes along with him to be our new HC

 

This might actually be the one way I could agree to allow this dirtbag on our team. Dungy would essentially be a karma equalizer.

 

That said, I don't think there's a snowball's chance in Miami that he'll wind up here.

[toddgurley]

Did you just hear Dungee?

 

So that explains the early rumors. I case you missed it Dungee just confirmed that there were discussions about Micheal Vick early this year. I believe his exact words were "they talked about him being an option".

 

What's that?? Oh that's the Buffalo Bills jumping the shark.

 

 

This is another TO move. Its not to make the football team better, its a marketing ploy-TO SELL TICKETS, just like TO was

[Guest dog14787]

roscoe parrish- arrested for DUI

 

ko simpson- arrested for hindering a police investigation

 

marshawn lynch- arrested for hit and run

 

marchawn lynch arrested for possession of weapon

 

donte whitner- arrested for aggravated disorderly conduct and resisting arrest

 

travis henry- while in buffalo- arrested for attempted sexual misconduct for trying to have sexual contact with a 15yr old girl

 

anthony hargrove- Arrested for resisting arrest, harassment & criminal mischief after allegedly striking a police officer outside a nightclub

 

rodney wright- Arrested on four charges, including driving while intoxicated after he was involved in a three-car accident in a suburb of Buffalo.

 

charles rogers- Arrested in the parking lot of a New Jersey go-go bar and charged with committing aggravated assault, making terroristic threats, resisting arrest and disorderly conduct.

 

sheldon jackson- Arrested on misdemeanor charges of driving with a suspended license and marijuana possession

 

 

 

 

now, i'm not trying to make light of what vick did. but bills fans have been rooting for criminals for years. including a child molester.(travis henry)

 

and you guys still rooted for them........ players who commited crimes against people and children

 

but some poeple will not give vick a chance because he did horrible, horrible things to animals?

 

wtf is wrong with society these days that crimes against animals take precedence over crimes against people?

 

again, I in no way think what vick did should be accepted by any means. i'm just stating that everyone that is a bills fan have been rooting for people that in my view have done worse.

 

The world is full of animal lovers, especially folks who love dogs and feel that what Vick did is unforgivable. While I don't feel the same way myself personally, I understand why some folks would be up in arms over Vick possibly coming to Buffalo.

 

I wouldn't worry though, Vick is a Lousy QB and I honestly don't see the Bills having any interest in him, specially considering he hasn't even shown flashes of his former running capabilities which is all he ever had going for him to begin with because he sure wasn't a very good QB. Without Agle Crumpler, Vicks career would have tanked long ago and this is coming from someone who has followed Vick throughout his career.

 

Guys got all the talent in the world, but doesn't read and react to defenses well enough to play the QB position properly. Vick simply doesn't have it upstairs, at least in my opinion.

[May Day 10]

I hate what Vick did and cant cheer for him.

 

However, I would be more irate because of the Bills FO.

 

It would be so obvious that this is a move by Russ Brandon to falsely spur ticket sales again one season, without the Bills committing too much green in the way of a leaner meaner front office or a head coach. They wouldnt have to pay for a 1st round QB either. Im not going to fall for it again. If they sign Vick and do not do anything else significant, I think it is very obvious they plan on milking everyone in Buffalo until the lease is up or Ralph dies.... when it is time to bolt for Toronto.

[wonderbread]

Those that are anti MV just think he can come here and get pounded by the Bills horrible O-line.

 

otherwise its all a Ploy by Brandon. This team is going to be the death of us all.

[Red]

just heard it and it will happen.. Russ will be looking to sell some seats next year and this will be it. Say hello to 73,000 at the Ralph again

 

You know, I have been looking at this as a positive until I read this post.

 

Unfortunately, with a marketing guy making all of the key football decisions, I think that you are right.

 

Cynical as it may be, and until the Bills get a real football man at GM, methinks that this reeks of another marketing ploy to sell seats and attract Toronto fans than it is to field a real TEAM.

 

I was excited about the possibility, but then realized who is doing the talking. Brandon.

 

I'd feel much better with a real football GM making the call, and with Modrak and Guy gone, and perhaps Dungy as head coach.

[BuffOrange]

roscoe parrish- arrested for DUI

 

ko simpson- arrested for hindering a police investigation

 

marshawn lynch- arrested for hit and run

 

marchawn lynch arrested for possession of weapon

 

donte whitner- arrested for aggravated disorderly conduct and resisting arrest

 

travis henry- while in buffalo- arrested for attempted sexual misconduct for trying to have sexual contact with a 15yr old girl

 

anthony hargrove- Arrested for resisting arrest, harassment & criminal mischief after allegedly striking a police officer outside a nightclub

 

rodney wright- Arrested on four charges, including driving while intoxicated after he was involved in a three-car accident in a suburb of Buffalo.

 

charles rogers- Arrested in the parking lot of a New Jersey go-go bar and charged with committing aggravated assault, making terroristic threats, resisting arrest and disorderly conduct.

 

sheldon jackson- Arrested on misdemeanor charges of driving with a suspended license and marijuana possession

 

 

 

 

now, i'm not trying to make light of what vick did. but bills fans have been rooting for criminals for years. including a child molester.(travis henry)

 

and you guys still rooted for them........ players who commited crimes against people and children

 

but some poeple will not give vick a chance because he did horrible, horrible things to animals?

 

wtf is wrong with society these days that crimes against animals take precedence over crimes against people?

 

again, I in no way think what vick did should be accepted by any means. i'm just stating that everyone that is a bills fan have been rooting for people that in my view have done worse.

 

My God this is the most tilting argument ever. "I'm not defending Vick, but I'm defending Vick".