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Here's Fluties's stats from the 1999 season: http://www.nfl.com/players/dougflutie/game...amp;season=1999 In 15 games Fluties had: 3171 passing yards, 19 TD's 16 INT's, 476 rushing yards, 1 rushing TD. That's better than any QB we've had in a while on this team. Here's Johnson's for that year: http://www.nfl.com/players/robjohnson/game...amp;season=1999 Johnson sucked for 58 minutes of the Titans game. One of his fumbles was then turned into a TD by the Titans offense. The O-line was not used to Johnson's snap count, so they got a ton of false start penalties in the first half, which backed up Johnson to the endzone and ultimately caused a safety. I think some people think that the fans that defend Flutie call it "Flutie magic" or Flutie was a great QB. There were 2 main problems us Flutie fans had with the decision: 1. Flutie's had a 2:1 winloss record, while Johnson's win/loss record was 1:2. Flutie left Buffalo with a 21-9 record, while Johnson left Buffalo with a 8-18 record. Call it the defense for Flutie's success, but Trent Dilfer had the same success in 2000 when the Ravens won the superbowl. 2. The timing of the decision. If the decision had to be made to switch QB's, it should have been made much earlier in the season not at the end of the season. Switching QB's that late in the season threw off the snap counts on the O-line and a lot of the chemistry on the offense. It was the wrong decision at the absolute wrong time.
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Promo, I think Mike was exaggerating, but from what I remember, Kelly was sacked a lot. IMO, Kelly was NFL ready in high school, but still needed some developing, which is why Ted Marchibroda deserves some credit here. And, I don't get how people think the USFL developed Kelly into a great QB. Some of those teams in the USFL couldn't beat college teams. There's a reason why the USFL is no longer in existence. Bottom line, the Bills only drafted 2 quarterbacks in franchise history that have made it to the playoffs (with the Bills). That's pathetic!!!
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On the NFL network's special, the Top 10 QB controversies, even Wade Phillips said "In hindsight, Doug would have won us the game." People forget that Rob Johnson played lousy for 58 minutes of the game vs the Titans and only played good on the final drive. I look at Flutie as a better, smaller version of Trent Dilfer. And I also see similarities between the 2000 Ravens that won the superbowl and the 1999 Bills. Both the Bills & Ravens had great defenses which carried the team, but both had serviceable QB's that did enough to get the job done. Whether you win the game by 1 point or 50 points, the result is still the same.
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Another Bills quarterback article
Jerry Jabber replied to mike oxhurtz's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
It definitely has a alot of good points. Like you said, a lot of it has been mentioned already, but then again, hasn't everything else on the team been already mentioned as well. If Gailey can get production out of Tomczak, a guy that was completely clueless and an interception machine in Chicago, then Gailey can definitely get production out of one of the three QB's on the roster. I do agree with the author that the QB battle will be between Brohm & Edwards. -
I remember that Jim spent 3 years in the USFL before coming to Buffalo, but that's not my point. The Bills drafted Jim in 83' and he was the last QB that we drafted that has successfully developed into a franchise or even good QB. The Bills haven't had any success in developing QB's (at least since Kelly arrived). Look at Todd Collins, the first season he takes over for Kelly, he's taken in and out of the line up with Van Pelt, then shown the door the next year, sorry but one year as starter is nowhere near enough time to develop a QB. I'm not saying Collins is great, but he's still in the league and led the Redskins to a playoff berth a couple of years ago. Losman had a different coordinator about every season he was here and did the flip-flop game as well with Kelly Holcomb. I'm not saying saying Losman is great, but he did go to the UFL and win the championship there and is now back in the league...maybe it's just taking him longer to develop, like it did Drew Brees. Brees had 31 games in SD where he threw for under 200 yards, including 6 games where he threw for under 100 yards. Once SD drafted Rivers, Brees stepped up his game and became a better QB.
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LMAO!!! That never gets old! I agree with your assessment of the Jets. With Sanchez, I'm not sold on the guy yet, I'm interested in seeing how he does this year.
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Buffalo hasn't developed a QB since 1986 (Jim Kelly). Todd Collins was quickly shown the door, Losman & Edwards have both been badly mismanaged, so let's see what Gailey can do with Edwards. If Edwards gets the nod as starter and can't get it done this year, then he'll be out of here at the end of the season.
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OBD Members 2010 Predictions Thread
Jerry Jabber replied to BUFFALOKIE's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
1. Jets 12-4 2. Bills 9-7 3. Patriots 8-8 4. Dolphins 7-9 -
Fans that don't like the yankees always say that "they buy the championships", but those same fans would have loved to have had Steinbrenner as their team's owner. RIP George.
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I heard Poz bulked up to 242lbs.
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Mr. Vick, He is ....the most interesting man in the world
Jerry Jabber replied to Mr. T's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
I might not always fight dogs, but when I do... -
Mr. Vick, He is ....the most interesting man in the world
Jerry Jabber replied to Mr. T's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
I love his quote (something along these lines) "No one's had to endure, what I had had to endure". Vick, you didn't have to endure anything, you did it to yourself. Once you made it to the NFL, you should have distanced yourself from your troublemaking friends/associates. -
IMO, Nix knows what to look for in a QB. At SD, Nix took part in drafting Drew Brees in 2001. Also, a few years later, Nix took part in drafting Eli Manning, which ultimately SD swapped out with the Giants for Phillip Rivers. Out of the 3 QB's mentioned, 2 of them have won the Superbowl. IMO, Nix didn't feel the QB's that were available in this years draft were the right one's, so he passed on them, which I can't say I blame him. Why take a QB that you don't have a ton of confidence in and possibly be stuck with him for another 3 to 4 years, then have to draft another one? We've seen this too many times since the mid-90's with the Bills: Collins, R. Johnson, Losman and now possibly T. Edwards. If Edwards, Brohm or Fitz can't get it done, then Nix will address the QB situation next year when there are better QB's in the draft.
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Here's an article that you should find interesting: http://www.realfootball365.com/articles/bills/14829 I agree, Jauron was a disaster.
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List of whipping boys we should have kept
Jerry Jabber replied to GrudginglyPessimistic's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Sounds like you're either a relative of Littman or Wilson. I don't worship Polian or think he's God, I just know he was the best GM in Bills history and one of the best GM's in the NFL. I blame Ralph for being cheap and too stubborn. None of us exactly know what went on between Littman & Polian, so I'm not gonna guess. But, I'd rather have the guy on my team that built a superbowl caliber team (which ultimately brought in a lot of money to team) versus the guy who counts the money. What's your excuse for John Butler's & A.J Smith's exodus to San Diego? While we can all be thankful to Ralph for bringing the Bills to Buffalo and keeping them here for 50 years, but he's also a meddling owner and has screwed up time and time again. That's the reason why no big name coach would want to come here and no big name free agent (like McNabb) would want to come here. It has nothing to do with cold weather either, New England & Pittsburgh both play in cold weather cities, but both have great owners. -
List of whipping boys we should have kept
Jerry Jabber replied to GrudginglyPessimistic's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
How do you that Polian didn't try working with Littman instead of fighting him? Do you know this as fact or just a guess? Polian was with the Bills at that time for more than 5 years (at least). If he Polian was a problem maker, like you're portraying him out to be, then why didn't Polian start a fight with Littman back in the late 80's instead of waiting how many years later? Bottom line, Ralph got cheap and ordered Littman to pinch pennies. -
List of whipping boys we should have kept
Jerry Jabber replied to GrudginglyPessimistic's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Polian was trying to win a superbowl and Littman was penny pinching and holding Polian back. I'm not saying Polian is 'holier than thou', but you don't fire the guy who turned your 2-14 team into a Superbowl contending team. Say what you want about Polian, but his teams have gone to the Superbowl 6 times. Granted, Polians teams only won 1 out of 6 Superbowls, but what Bills fan wouldn't accept that? -
First, you shouldn't write everything in capital letters. When you write in all caps, that means you're shouting, lower case letters please. Second, I can see Johnson and Easley having the most success this year. I think Hardy will get a chance at the #2 WR position, but will get beaten out by Johnson. I can see Hardy primarily used as a red zone threat.
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Hank Bullough
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Nope, but IMO the Bills should sign Adams as a stop gap, that way they can ease Bell or Wang in and those 2 can learn from a veteran.
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List of whipping boys we should have kept
Jerry Jabber replied to GrudginglyPessimistic's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
+1 How does Darcy Regier still even have a job?