Jerry Jabber

Thanks Jethro!

Honestly, I'm just a frustrated fan. If the Bills would have made the playoffs a couple of times within the last 13 years, I wouldn't be so frustrated with them. When you shell out a few hundred bucks every year on the NFL Sunday ticket, buy merchandise, and make the trek to Buffalo for an occasional game, you expect better results than what we have been seeing. I checked RF365.com, the site is back up, but when you click on an article, you get a blank screen with the following message: "No input file specified."

Thanks Joma!

http://www.buffalorumblings.com/2013/6/10/4415240/jairus-byrd-planning-to-skip-buffalo-bills-mandatory-ota. "This news isn't remotely surprising, as this minicamp is Byrd's last bit of leverage before a July 15 deadline for the two sides to agree to a long-term deal. If July 15 comes and goes without a contract, Byrd will only be able to sign a one-year deal with the club, and he'll have the option of abstaining from joining the team until as late as November 12." "Byrd can't be fined for his absence, as he's currently not under contract (he hasn't signed the franchise tender the team put on him in early March). His continued absence will undoubtedly be a disappointment for all parties involved, but again: July 15 is the date to really worry about."

Thanks anello, I appreciate it! You and Goose wrote some great articles as well. It was nice having one site to discuss all things related to Buffalo and sports. I didn't care much for some of the political & religious rants by some members, but otherwise, I enjoyed our time on RF365.

I agree!

Conner was a good writer, I enjoyed most of his articles, but the guy that took over for him [Anthony Bialy] was a bad writer. RF365 was good while it lasted.

Irsay screwed Baltimore and Modell screwed Cleveland. Bills have been been getting screwed for the past 13 years. Otherwise, congrats to the Ravens on winning the Superbowl and getting their rings.

Since 1980, I haven't drank the OBD kool-aid in 2001 when Rob Johnson was named starter, and this year. After 13 years of missing the playoffs and getting my hopes up every year that they are turning things around, I need to see results first before I have anymore OBD kool-aid. Seeing is Billeving!

I'm still here (steveb). It sucks about RF365, but we kind of knew it was going to happen sooner or later. How has everyone been doing? Have you been able to locate the rest of the RF365 crew?

:thumbsup: I think the kool-aid at OBD has been a by-product of Monsanto since 2000, as the Bills win loss record since then is 82-126.

He said bad, awful things...and I fell down the stairs...and my shoes fell off!!

Is this guy a special teams player? I don't see him sticking on the Bills just as a WR.

Back to the topic at hand, hopefully Jim will feel better soon and have a speedy recovery from his surgeries.

I wonder if the Bills ever make it back to the playoffs, will they tear down the goal posts (like in 1988) and throw a parade for the team? The Bills have been an embarrassment for such a long time. Maybe the new youth movement can turn things around?

http://www.buffalobills.com/news/article-2/OTA-Practice-Notes---Day-6/46b8d837-9186-4aea-af60-b3ddffe57730 "Rookie connection strikes again EJ Manuel and undrafted rookie receiver Da’Rick Rogers again hooked up for a deep ball Thursday. Bills fans keeping track will remember Manuel and Rogers already connected deep once last week and once for an 80-yard touchdown Tuesday. On Thursday, Rogers ripped right up the seam and Manuel’s throw was on the money. Seventy yards later the duo had its third big play of OTAs." Should be interesting to see if this will continue throughout mini-camp, training camp, preseason etc... Andy Dalton & AJ Green were both drafted in the same year by the Bengals and have been good together since. It would be great to see that same chemistry with Manuel, Rogers (and hopefully the rest of the Bills WR's).

The Bills are 82-126 over the past 13 years. They have averaged a 6-10 record over those 13 years (6.3 Wins, 9.7 losses). So, by going with the stats, 6-10 sounds about right at this point in time. As far as how I think the Bills will do, as of right now, I have no clue. With a new coaching staff, new offensive & defensive strategies, and a new QB, it's very hard to give a prediction at this point in time. Is Hackett better or worse than Gailey (as OC)? Is Pettine better or worse than Wannstedt? Is Marrone better or worse than Gailey (as HC)? Anyone can point to the previous successes that Marrone, Pettine & Hackett had prior to coming to Buffalo, but they have to prove it here. Many people talked up how Gailey worked with scrub QB's (Tomczak, Stewart, Fielder & Thigpen) and got the best out of them. Same with the success Wannstedt had as being a DC, but look at how they did in Buffalo? They failed miserably. I'm not trying to be pessimistic, but seeing is Billeving!!

I would have more confidence if Lovie Smith was the Bills HC vice Doug Marrone. While some on here say that Syracuse's record was abysmal before Marrone arrived, the fact remains the same that his record at Syracuse was .500. So, he took a terrible team and made them mediocre...doesn't exactly inspire confidence that he can get the job done here in Buffalo. Now, I hope I'm wrong and Marrone has the same success as the Harbaugh Bros, but after 13 miserable seasons (to borrow a quote from Boss Hogg [buddy Nix]) "Show me the baby!"

My point to everyone that is in favor of hiring a college coach (such as Jim & John Harbaugh and Pete Carroll), that there are equal (if not more) college coaches that fail as NFL head coaches. The retred coaches I was referring to are those that had successful records as HC's, such as Lovie Smith, Marty Schottenheimer & Bill Cowher (not Dick Jauron & Chan Gailey). Just a few years ago, an overwhelming majority of Bills fans wanted Bill Cowher as our HC. Actually, it was one guy 10 years ago: Steve Spurrier (2002-03, Redskins HC) Nick Saban, Miami Dolphins HC 2005, 2006 (7 years ago) Bobby Petrino, Atlanta Falcons HC, 2007 (6 years)

Don't know what that rate is, but choosing a guy with a .500 win pct as a college HC is a huge gamble.

Just because the college game has changed doesn't mean it less risky to choose a college HC now than in any other period before. The option play is the new, hot phenomenon in the NFL. Have you seen John Harbaugh use the option play with Joe Flacco in Baltimore? No. A head coach has to be able to be a successful game manager (be able to make successful game time decisions/adjustments), be able to get the most out of his players and work together as a team. It has nothing to do about college football having more success than in recent years. For every successful HC that comes from the college ranks, there's more coaches that fail.

So what you're saying is every single college coach from now on that gets selected to be an NFL Head Coach is going to be successful because the game has changed? That's a very bold prediction! I'd say hiring Marrone is a huge risk given his short amount of time as an OC in the NFL, short amount of time as a college HC, and especially Marrone's head coaching record at Syracuse was 25-25 (.500 win pct). Choosing Manuel at the #16 spot when NFL experts all stated he was a 2nd round choice is huge a risk. If Manuel doesn't workout (like Todd Collins, JP Losman, and Trent Edwards) then the Bills will go through another QB search again in 3-4 years. Why?

I have no expectations for the Bills this season (so far). We have a new coaching staff, new offensive and defensive strategies, and we don't know who will be the starting QB come Week 1, so it's very hard to say how well/poor the team will do. One thing is for sure, after 13 miserable years, I'm not hoping or thinking playoffs until it actually happens.

How so? Lovie's defense's have been very good, and Norv has been a good OC wherever he's gone as an OC (just not a good HC).

For every Jim & John Harbaugh, there's a Nick Saban, Steve Spurrier and Bobby Petrino. :thumbsup: