BobChalmers

+1 La Canfora is one of the few non-idiots on NFLN. I believe he's spot on: 1. The Bills don't believe in Clausen 2. They have already scouted the heck out of mid-round QB's and that's where they'll get one - later. 3. There are four good OT's still on the board - one of them will be there for Buffalo at #41 and be (another) good value pick.

And btw, I would not be happy at all if they used the 1st round pick on an OLB. Maybin projects well there. Poz could fit. Kelsay and Schobel don't have positions unless they are at OLB. I'm not saying that Morgan might not be better than any of those guys at OLB, but I am saying I'd like to find out if it's even a position of need at all before we use the #9 pick in the draft on it, and leave a good OLT or NT on the board.

At one point I thought I read he was at 290. At 6-4 290# he is the prototype 3-4 DE. If he's really down to 266, he's more like the perfect DE for our old scheme...

You know - if they hadn't finally fired Jauron, we could not be sure they wouldn't have!

Morgan made a lot more sense to me before they picked up Dwan Edwards. Morgan would be a perfect 3-4 DE. As a 3-4 OLB, he'd be yet another player we're trying to convert from DE to LB. We've already got Edwards, Stroud, Spencer Johnson, and maybe Kyle Williams pencilled in as DE's in the new scheme - we need an NT. Clausen seems OK, but this QB class is so weak compared to what is expected for next year, I'd hate to reach on one now. I'd be happier taking a flier on Tebow in the 2nd. Trading down would be ideal if none of the right LT's or NT's are there. Problem there is, as always, you need a partner to make a trade.

Was this just a hook to get some sucker like me to remind you of Thurman Thomas or did you really forget him? Sam was really good - real pity about his knee.

Dating your sister? That's not the issue dude. The issue is that when he's in town, he's a possibility to be butt-bopping your sister whether or not you, and more importantly, whether or not SHE wants to or not. Even from a pure winning football question, since he's already a repeat problem-child, he's likely to do something else stupid/evil in the future, and get himself suspended for even more games. Not helpful.

So, basically, you didn't read a thing the OP posted? Time to make ICE run away again - who can we actually get at QB this year that's actually good?

That doesn't even tell the whole story! The Cowboys were 6-10 before Gailey. They went 10-6, 8-8 in two seasons with him as HC. They went 5-11 three straight years after him. It's more like the Cowpies flamed out once their only spark - Gailey - was removed. There is no limit to the number of stupid people with "cred" in the league. Just add Wooten to your list. As for Frazier - after the Bills failed so miserably in not hiring him, he immediately became the head coach of ______?? The OP should ask for his money back.

Your beliefs and a feelings notwithstanding, his one NFL HC experience is a documented fact. Cowboys immediately before Gailey became HC: 6-10 remnants of the aging super-bowl teams Cowboys with Gailey as HC: 10-6, 8-8 Cowboys immediately after Gailey was let go: 5-11, 5-11, 5-11 - three straight seasons of worse records than even Bills fans have had to suffer recently. That's not opinion - except for the part about Aikman/Smith/Irivin getting old - it's fact. His one chance at being an NFL HC his team did much better then before or after. He gets grief about mediocrity as the HC at Georgia Tech. Maybe he's not a strong recruiter - fortunately that's not part of his job here. That they hated him for never beating Georgia is comical - GT has rarely beaten Georgia.

And that person or persons would have been...? You should line up with DarthICE while he explains WHO the QB is lying around out there we are supposed to get to save the franchise.

FAIL POST Were you complaining about Dockery coming in? Was he cheap?? Did you see how he played when here? Do you understand the DC fans are thrilled to have him back and view him as their top OL? Was signing Walker the same year cheap too? Wilson wants them to win. He's tried a few different approaches (respected outside expert Donoschmoe, old friend Levy). Now he's hired Nix who is something in between - hopefully the best of both worlds - a guy with a good pedigree of success who earned some trust spending one season inside the organization last year. What "proven winner" HC are you referring to? Shanahan and Cower were offered plenty of money by all accounts. They didn't want to live in Buffalo. Ralph isn't responsible for the community, he is responsible for being willing to make less money than he could be by keeping them in Buffalo. Gailey is a proven winner - just not a big name the talking morons on TV were going to hype for you. Rather than count on them for facts, I looked them up myself. Gailey makes his teams better, nearly every time. He had one stint as an NFL HC and his team was much better with him for two years than the periods before and after. I can think of no better measure of an HC's impact, and see no reason why he can't be expected to do the same here. Ralph's doing what he can to win. If you want to complain that he blew it 20 years ago losing his temper and letting Polian and Butler go, fine. Since then, sticking with Jauron, bringing in Levy and Donohoe, changing the uniform colors - those were mistakes, but I don't see any reasonable proof they weren't well meaning mistakes. I wouldn't trade Ralph for Dan Snyder in a hundred years - and Danny boy down here in DC is all you need to know that spending money is no cure for anything in the NFL.

It does indeed - thank you, well put!

Scott Pioli stated he wanted to keep Gailey and promote him to HC but he thought the KC fans were too stupid to get the promotion of an unfamous name. Ever think of becoming a KC fan? You'd fit right in. I notice you're choosing to provide no statistics of his one HC stint in the NFL. That much is smart, eh, since Gailey took over a 6-10 Dallas team and turned them into 10-6 and 8-8 playoff teams. Then when Jones fired him (his mistake, he now says) the Cowboys immediately went 5-11 three straight years. Nope - he's been a failure all right - if you ignore his success, that is.

He had a few I guess - but is that outrageous for what was essentially a rookie OLT? I'll take a few false starts over sacks and holds, btw.

Wasn't he essentially hurt most of the year? Didn't he look pretty solid in his limited action while he was healthy? I'm interested in hearing what I missed watching the games - I don't remember ever being very upset with what I saw from him, but maybe I've forgotten. It just seems like so much of the screaming about the state of our offensive line was ignoring the fact that 3/5 starters were out much of the year. Please - tell me which games I should look back at - I have them recorded - to find where Bell sucks - particularly for a guy coming in with so little experience and room to continue developing physically.

Matt Ryan, who went to a team with a good OL and played his first year with one of the most productive RB's in the league running behind that line, you mean? That Matt Ryan? Or maybe you mean Joe Flacco, because he was succeeding on a team with a bad OL and questions at DL and LB? (Ngata and Ray Lewis suck) If we think we have a NT and an OL Fred Jackson can run for 1600 yards behind, by all means, grab the best available QB. C'mon, the Jets in our own division showed us exactly how to get it done. Draft/sign a stud OL (LT, C, plus G in FA, in their case), assemble a tough defense, THEN get your QB the next year. It's really not that hard to see, and the pattern is all over the place on successful teams. The Detroit's of the league, on the other hand, go through high-pick QB's every few years, then wonder why they never can find the right one. Their newest one will be a broken down "bust" in a few years - count on it. One should feel very sorry for David Carr, who had all the tools, looked great at first (Trent Edwards?) but after multiple 50+ sack seasons, understandably lost some of the confidence needed to succeed as a QB.

Hey - to be clear - I loved the Flutie acquisition, and was disappointed a few months later when they spent draft picks on Johnson before they had even seen if Flutie was good enough. I was very willing to believe Flutie's monster CFL success would translate enough to stick with him. AND Flutie was good enough in my opinion. I'm just not blind to the fact that he clearly faded physically over the course of that second season, which made it not necessarily stupid to put Johnson in there. He was small and old and it was easy to see how tired his arm was getting. Maybe if he split time early in the season he would have had enough gas left to even help win a super bowl, but as it was, he looked worn out. MOST importantly, I'm just saying, the QB DID NOT "TAKE US TO THE PLAYOFFS". Few QB's outsisde of Peyton Manning and Dan Marino types do that. The thinking that the NFL is about finding the perfect QB is the thinking that keeps giving the same teams nice early draft picks to keep trying to find that guy every year, while ignoring the trenches, and wondering why they can never find a successful QB to play behind their crappy OL. After Flutie/Johnson, we had the moron Gregg Williams coming in and dismantling one of the very best defenses in the league so he could force his own 46 on what had been one of the longest running original 3-4 success stories. "Fixing" what wasn't broken, and ensuring that we were going nowhere for a decade, no matter what QB we brought in. That Tom Donanhoe looked at the Bills, listened to Greggo, and decided defensive scheme was the problem was really all the proof needed that TD was incompetent. Sorry, Chris Mortensen.

Mind you, that was with the #1 (and/or close to it) defense in the NFL. Of course, the all-important QB position is measured in wins/losses, right, so if the defense carries some stiff to the playoffs, he's actually not a stiff, but a "winning QB". Never mind that RoJo lost almost as many yards as he gained taking stupid sacks, and Flutie's limited arm clearly started to fail him over the course of a season, as anyone could see him using more and more body twist to make basic throws in December (and losing accuracy in the process). But you can call that "taking us to the playoffs" if you'd like. Let's pick up Trent Dilfer while we're at it - he "took" the Ravens to a Super Bowl win, after all.

Spot on. Don't be the team to jump on the 3-4 bandwagon late - be the team to grab the under-valued 4-3 guys. And 4-3 doesn't have to mean Tampa-2 with its (arguably) too-small LB's and pressure on the MLB to drop way back in coverage. Gregg Williams' 4-3, is a derivative of the old Bears (Buddy Ryan) 46 defense. Nothing wimpy and small about it, and it's still around on several good defenses around the league. That attacking 4-3 defense's main weakness, btw, is that it puts a lot of pressure on the DB's, especially the CB's, to play tight man coverage, and what do you know, DB's are the strength of the Bills' defense, so why not? I never could understand why we kept drafting DB's when one of the main features of the Tampa-2 is not putting much pressure on the CB's to man cover.

So, only the first pick of a draft is important to you? Go back and pick up your XBOX controller - you left it on the floor in the middle of your Madden game.

Right, so Cameron goes 1-15 in his stint as a HC, and the team goes 11-5 after he's fired. Gailey's 2-year stint is 18-14 (0-2 playoffs) taking over a 6-10 team, and the team sinks to 5-11 for three straight years when he's gone. They are in what way even similar? Both successful OC's?

Which would explain why, in his one stint as a HC, Gailey was able to take over an aging 6-10 Cowboys team and lead them to 10-6, 8-8, and two straight playoff appearances? Then they went 5-11 three straight years after he was fired? Because he's demonstrated he lacks what it takes to be a HC? Seriously - why do so many "fans" take the time to post stuff with absolutely nothing to back it up? I mean - at least the lazy/ignorant national media types are getting paid to look foolish by saying stuff they can't back up - you're doing it for free!

Another fan out to prove Scott Pioli right?

I saw little from Hangartner that made him look like enough of an upgrade over the too-small/weak guys we've had there the past several years. He's better, but still not great. Given the need for a really strong Center to work against the NT's in our division particularly, Wood needs to be the answer at Center if healthy, otherwise we should draft another one. As for Incognito, I'm all for tough and mean o-linemen, but this guy seems to repeatedly cross the line to just stupid and out-of-control. 15-yard personal fouls are not a way to generate offense and score points.