DanInUticaTampa

I am not a conspiracy guy, but at times I almost thought they ignored those because they just got tired of calling penalties on the raiders. The raiders are a good team, but they aren't going to get far with that type of playing. Having all those penalties are going to kill their season. also, it was ridiculous every time a penalty was called and they acted like they didn't understand why the flag was thrown. It has to be a result of sloppy coaching.

yes. that whole middle of the field is where this battle between the pats* offense vs bills defense will be decided

doubt it. I thought heard was outplaying troup in preseason, and they don't need that many linemen.

what is even more crazy is all the love brusci gave us all week. I never thought I would see him get so excited over the bills. You would think he was a bills homer the way he was talking.

that will be a first

yes. would have been better drafting someone else and keeping greer.

this stuff is so mysterious. it isn't an injury, but an illness that is going to last all season? I can't tell if it is super serious or very lame.

Which is why I hope newton continues to be good. Otherwise, I would be pretty worried when this group uses a high pick on a QB.

c'mon guys. we all know stevie is the best rapper of all time.

it's ok. We will move up to 29 after we beat the chiefs

I'd hope that happens. Last year's experimental year is over. I am hoping now after a year with the team, the coaching staff knows what works and doesn't work with these players.

also, no way the afc west have a loser win the division two years in a row. the division winner will at least be 9-7 there.

chargers haven't really impressed this preseason, but I consider them a dark horse for the superbowl this year. They looked good last year, and now they got jackson back.

pretty much.

Kinda like the list with the exception of Switzer. I only saw two preseason games, and I am not sure if I recall him.

gotta hope easley delivers. roos has some potential. And gotta hope jones and nelson continue to develop but hangartner was a surprise to me. the guy at the very least seemed like a good depth option, considering the depth we currently have.

from this thread, it looks like NGU misunderstood an article by JW that he didn't read, but gathered the info from other posters? I mean, I remember that article. I don't remember it saying that Overdorf was behind the trade. I remember it saying he "handled" the trade, but that is completly different. Why are people arguing semantics? And NGU, I like you and all, but I when halftime wrote this: then you said: There really is no "if" about it. The article never calls overdorf the triggerman, or the guy that made the call on the trade. And people on the boards reacted like it was part of the "ralph is cheap" conspiracy. I like you a lot, and appreciate all the inside info. But if you misunderstood "overdorf handled the lee evans trade" to be "overdorf made the call to trade lee evans," then I think you made a mistake with misunderstanding something or not reading the full article. Kelly has nagged you to be more specific about how the trade was handled. Really because, if overdorf did handle the trade, but didn't pull the trigger, then JW's article is correct and not untrue like you suggest. He doesn't even go on to call it "inside information" either. That overdorf comment was a very small part in a long article that talked about numerous things. It wasn't headline news he was putting up. imo, this was a misunderstanding on your part that just lead to more misunderstandings on everyones part. It seems people are not even sure what they are arguing about, including you. And I might be misunderstanding the arument as well, since I just quickly read through it in the past 15 minutes.

Naw, they would trade him away for like a 5th or something.

I agree with some of the opinion, but the facts are so wrong. Merriman is old? No he is not. CJ spillar hasn't been good 2 years running? No, that was just one year. nothing behind kelsey and merriman? Moats (yes, i know he is ILB for now) can very well be our poor man's verision of merriman as a pass rusher and carrington has been marvelous at the position. At the very least, those two are decent backups. Then there are some good developmental players behind them like coleman and battan, that I wouldn't start, but they have potential. Really, the only thing I agree with is the offensive line. Which is sad, but true.

agreed

I wouldn't say the lions have an "elite" defensive scheme, and they rattled brady pretty well. They just have some really strong players up front, which we have as well. The williams and dareus combo should be really great. On another note, I am pretty worried about this week. If the lions defense was able to tear apart the pats*, I really hope they don't make lunch meat out of our offense and we leave with an injury or two. I know we played well against the jags, and I know our oline stood up to suh pretty well in regular season last year, but after that pats* game, I am a little worried. We have come close to beating them a couple times as a worse team, so I wouldn't say it is imposible. I would just say we aren't favored to win either game.

it was posted somewhere. But on a side note, the best part is he has the phins going 3-13. Just as long as they don't get luck, that does look purdy. I don't think we are going to be 9-7, but if we finish third in the division, that would definently be a step in the right direction.

I really hope this season is worth it. I am postive we will be better than last year, but if we are able to at least finish 8-8, I would be so pleased. I still find it hard to believe 8-8 or better will happen, but I don't think it is out of the realm of being possible. we will have a better idea how bad/good this team is after some regular season games.

so what was the really wierd think in this more than obvious top 5 list? Is there more in the rest of the article we can't see that is the "wierd" part?