DanInUticaTampa

This is how I would like it, though I have my doubts

dont forget incognito and better coaching/scheme

I asked you to please read my posts before you blindly reply to them, yet to decide not to. I never ever said Graham should apologize. Not once did I ever say that. Go show me exactly where I specifically said Graham should apologize. What I said was, graham should have admitted his sources were wrong. That is not me asking to admit blame. It is not his fault his sources were wrong. He should put the blame on where the info came from, the sources. But rather than admitting his sources made a mistake, he stood by them. I was never ever in this thread asking for TG to apologize. You are making that up. I never said he should twist the words of his source. Again, another thing you are making up. Go find where I said TG should twist, change words of his source. you won't find it, because it doesn't exist it is something you made up, because I did not say those things

one other point I wanted to add to this, this is actually a common thing. Usually with interviews . but the reporter will insert "sic" when there is something that is odd, thinks it might be wrong, or mean something else. I take it you must get most of your reading done on the funny pages of the news

or.... the reporter could just ask the source for clarification. like "wow! Whaley really went Rogue?! does that mean he didn't tell the pegulas? didn't tell rex? went behind the backs of the entire organization?!" I mean, I am not a reporter or anything, but if a source dropped a bombshell on me, or gave me something that didn't make sense, then I totally would ask a source for clarification. Which Tim obviously did because he came back and said, oh by the way, Terry Pegula knew about fred jackson's release

I am not saying he should re-interpret anything. This is another case of you not reading. If you ever read any news pieces where something was falsely reported, due to errors/bad sources, they issue a retraction. plain and simple. no apologizing, no re-interpreting anything. You really pull these things out of thin air when you quote me well, obviously amphibious, because sports writing is for entertainment purposes only. Like an extension of the funny pages. All laughs with nothing being accurate

It seems odd to me. But it would be pretty low for TG to completely make it up, or miss tweet it and blame it on sources. Because he said several times that it wasn't his word, it was the word of his sources. If this didn't catch on in the national media, it would have been forgotten by now. I know we all hate ESPN/ NFL network for obvious reasons, but I still watch them. It was pretty dishearting hearing them talk about this "rogue" story and talking in detail about how the bills are dysfunctional because there is no communication between the HC and GM. I mean, what a buzz kill over what has been a pretty exciting off season. Actually, yes, this probably would have been better. And would have been an easier pill for him to swallow too

Well, he did eventually come out and Admit that Pegula knew ahead of time about fred getting released. Not sure if about ryan and roman though.

Yes, admit that his sources used a bad choice of words. it was not his word, so he shouldn't apologize for that. He should have just admitted his sources used poor wording. In my opinion, that is what a good journalist would do. Whether they are reporting about a Niki Minaj concert, the stock market, or a little league baseball team, I have respect for journalists that do their job the right way. If their sources make something up or report wrong, then there is a retraction by respectable journalists. You think it doesn't matter because football is an entertainment topic so it doesn't matter since it isn't a serious issue, and that is fine. I personally like my journalism , sports or otherwise, to be a higher standard then what was displayed. There are plenty of journalists I have stopped following because of that. There are too many good journalists out there for me to follow someone that isn't meeting those standards.

One of the things people were talking about was that a lot of the leaks did start when he returned back to camp. Though being an assistant oline coach I am not sure how much he gets told. I am sure he got a lot more when he was an OC

Coller lying or not lying about playing college basketball is something completly funny. It is hilarious that it even came up in discussion. And the more that came out on it, the more it looked like Coller did play college basketball (and received college credit for it). So of all the things TG could pick to discredit a peer, he picks .... that. And I never said I was offended or Graham should apologize. Bu thank you again for not reading my posts....

My thinking is that there is someone(s) that are not whaley fans and they exaggerated the situation to make Whaley look bad in public. There really seems to be a lot of info about the bills getting leaked lately. I think the organization is becoming more aware of it, and I am sure they are going to tighten the communication at the very top Someone on twitter jokes that Kromer was one of the leaks just because of his reputation haha.

According to TG, that is the word that 2 separate sources used to describe it. So if that is true (I don't take TG to be an outright liar), he did is job right. He reported it using 2 seperate sources, which is fairly responsible because 1 source could make a mistake, but 2 is a lot less unlikely. A lot of these twitter reports go on a lot less. So he did well, so this is really on his sources. What bothers me is TG even came out later saying that Pegula knew ahead of time that Fred was getting cut.... and that is the opposite of Whaley going rogue. So instead of saying the sources used poor choice of words or something, he defended it in the most convoluted way. He was arguing the definition of "rogue" with people on twitter trying to explain that even though Whaley let most people know what was happening, there were "some" people that did not know, therefore he went rogue. And most people would look at that and think that rogue is very misleading in that case. And I just cannot bring myself to side with graham. And then him attacking Coller with this school yard shouting match was totally weak.

I don't think you are reading my posts. I never said TG made a mistake. First you called me a hater, and I am not a hater. Then you are saying that I said TG made a mistake, and I never said that either. If you are going to keep quoting me, please learn to read my posts before responding. You are putting words in my mouth for things I am not saying nor portraying. I honestly think you are not reading my posts and just typing random thoughts...

I am not sure what your post has to do with what I wrote? Except for the part at the end about "how sad it is" commentary. I have nothing "Cryptic" to say about how is family must be ashamed of him or whatever. If he has family, I am sure they care very much for him and I highly doubt his reporting or work has any negative side effects. I sure it is the opposite and they are very proud of him. when I said it was "sad" I was referring to the disappointment I personally feel in seeing a reporter I generally like take part in petty arguments with his media peers and deliver reports from questionable sources. I never said I hated the guy or thought his family should be ashamed of him, so I have no clue where you pulled that from. I was simply pointing out why I like him and criticizing what I consider flaws. And all humans have flaws, so just because I feel he insnt perfect I don't hate the guy or (your words now) "something ridiculous like that"

It is sad, because I have really enjoyed TG's human interest stories (like the Talley Article). And I am sure he is a good guy in real life. He comes off as a nice guy on TV. On the internet though.. he has just a very annoying personality. Very defensive, petty, argumentative, and he does it so much I really think enjoys the contraversy of fighting with people online. And besides that, I really think his "sources" are pretty much dried up compared to what other reporters have. JW, Rodak, carucci all seem to have much better sources based on their recent track record. Even national members of the media have much better sources than him, and that is more sad since he should have an advantage by being in the area. the 2 sources that used the word "rogue" with him were obviously not good sources. They were either flat out wrong or they had an agenda to throw Whaley under a bus. TG should have just admitted his sources screwed up instead of trying t o twist it that he didn't mean "rogue" to mean what people generally think it means by its definition. It is sad, because his human interest stories are wonderful and I am glad he is doing more of them. But his reporting and online behavior is really damaging his reputation with his readers and it will hold him back from reaching his full potential

Getting one via trade is a possibilty too.and after the next cuts, there might be more kickers available. Your list isn't our only options.

I cant realistically think that Whaley did this without talking to rex/ownership. Whaley said he consulted with the pegulas about this. IF whaley did not consult with ownership but he publicly said he did, I would imagine he would get fired. I think the "honesty" think fred was talking about had to do with something other than whaley not talking to ownership

I think there is a good chance brown gets cut. keep 3 RBs and a FB

im thinking this too. Especially since we are keeping a FB presumably. I think brown is still on the bubble

It's also not as fun to ask cassel. What is a bit ironic is that EJ seems to be handleing it a lot better than Cassel. Cassel who has been on several teams and lost/won jobs several times, I would have thought Cassel would have handled it better than EJ. I really think EJ thought he had a chance to win the competition. He played better than I have ever seen him play, and I really think he played to compete. Not just to try to audition for other teams. If we trade him, I wouldn't be surprised. But I would prefer to keep EJ and cut cassel. or keep both. but EJ should stay and develop.

After watching this steelers game, I know exactly what the bills should do at QB. play all four of them! QB by committee, these defenses won't know what hit them! Do what you did today. Have EJ start out there, take them by surprise with some deep passes and a quick score. Send cassel out there next, have him chip away for a couple drives with short throws to tire out that defense. When that defense is tired, throw Taylor out there. Have him manage the game from the pocket, do his crazy runs (defense will be too tired to stop him). after a few Taylor series', put EJ back now that the defense is totally lost and confused by all the different QB play. Have EJ put the knife into them with his deep passes. After we are up 100% vs our oppenents, send out sims to give the boys a rest. It is the 4 headed monster. be ready!

I am a EJ fan and he is the one I was really pulling for, but I am not sure he should start week 1. He doesn't seem like the best right now. And I don't think the team will really support him 100% if he starts without signifcantly beating out the other two. I think that the bills really need to invest more time into though. Eyeball test says this guy is much better than he was a year ago, and potential is still there. He has the physical talent. Mentally,he is reading the defenses better and seeing the field better. He looks more confident and less timid. He is making better presnap reads. He isn't that far off being the best pocket passer that we have. He isn't the franchise QB that we need, but he has had good improvement and I think he will continue to get better. I just don't think he is ready to beat out the other 2 guys yet. If I had to put money on it, I woudn't be surprised if by week 8 he develops into the best QB on the roster by a good margin. Not saying she should drop everything and start him, but I bet he will keep getting better fast with this better coaching.

It wasn't excuse back then. We really were vanilla. then we unleashed the real deal in the regular season.... super vanilla!

We are over hyped, but I also think our QBs are getting knocked down way more than they should. All three have played well in preseason, and it is pretty easy to argue that the QB position will be more productive than last year, not matter which 3 get picked. All those sports talking heads that act like we have the worst QBs, that there are 28 backup QBs that are better than all our QBs, and so on are all very wrong in my book. But I think the hype with the excitement for the team has been pretty crazy. Not as much with the talking heads, but nfl fans in general just seem to have gotten into the hype, not just bills fans.