The Cincinnati Kid

Most people get kicked out of college for cheating, so I am willing to bet that most people do not go this route. Also, its rumored that an education below the Mason-Dixon Line ain't quite the same as one from above it... Not trying to offend anyone, just saying.

being more enthusiastic and sounding more positive is not a change in tone? Are you a musician/singer? Otherwise his tone changed IMO.

I think that we are sometimes lump the current guys calling the shots with the former guys calling the shots. Donahoe was an idiot, Marv was not a personnel guy and Russ Brandon...I won't even go there. Nix is a personnel guy. He has been a coach and scout all his life. He is not going to make the same mistakes that these other guys made. Brandon just didn't know what he was doing, plain and simple. Marv drafted guys he couldda made better but his HC was awful so it didnt work out, and Donahoe was arrogant and made luxury/flashy picks on teams that needed more than luxury. I do not associate any of the prior regimes with the current one. It just doesn't make sense.

I think if somehow Darius and Miller are both there at 3 we take Miller because I believe, and this is based on absolutely nothing, that Nix and Chan like the two DL they drafted last year (Troup, Carrington). IMO pass rush is the weakest position on this team with OL being next. I know we were horrible against the run, but we had to play Stroud who sucked and Dwan got hurt and missed a bunch of games before the rookies were really ready. FWIW Carrington looked gigantic last year and moved well, I thought. I think we are going Miller unless he is not there, no matter who else is around.

Miller and Maybin only have two things in common: The 1st letter of their Last Name and the Position they play (even tho Maybin was drafted as a DE). Miller has a solid body of work at FBS level playing in the Big 12. The dude is bigger and faster than Clay Matthews, he is adding muscle and weight to his frame (last i heard he was up to 250 ish) and he is explosive as demonstrated by his 10' 9" broad jump at the combine. He is a unique pass rusher who can get his torso parallel to the ground without losing leverage and he can cover with the best of the LBs. He and Dareus are the safest picks in this draft. No doubt.

I watched the interview with Chan on NFLN and I really thought that it was obvious who the choice was just by his tone and the way he talks about each prospect. Miller is their guy... http://www.buffalobills.com/media-center/videos/Chan-Gailey-on-the-draft/3146831f-a0a4-4a0c-9950-c3ab960e1936 See what you think.

I am in total agreement as well. Nicely said. I am in the Miller/Dareus camp as well. Personally, I think that Green is the Dark Horse Candidate to go Number 1 to Carolina. That would set off a whole string of god-knows-what... Bills overlook Newton and take the Defender Denver passes on.

I dont think you can judge a draft after 1 season of play. I think you need 3-4 years before you judge a draft. Personally, I like Troup and Carrington. We'll see. Jury is still out.

Dankenstien: When you are done pumping gas for people let me know. When you are done fixing other people's toilets let us know. When you have finished kissing the feet of the people you work for let me know. Have some respect for what people think. This is what a message board is about. It is not for what you are doing. You need to grow up and get a freaking education.

I just dont understand why people on this board feel the need to Hate on peoples opinions. I have mine and you have yours. That doesnt make me irrational or illogical. It makes it my opinion. Eric Crouch won a National Title and Heisman, is he an Icon? I serisously doubt it. As it pertains to the conversation with King, if I read between the lines, which I try to do when people in Newton's position talk, then I am seeing it as him saying he is selfish, cares about himself, as an ego the size of Alaska, and that he thinks he is entitled to everything that he is going to be handed. Its just my opinion. I am not wrong, or illogical for having it. Its what I believe based on everything that I read and heard thus far concerning Cam Newton.

I'm not WRONG. I have my opinions. You have yours. You are not wrong. I am not wrong. You take it your way, I take it mine. Why is he signing endorsement deals anyway? He hasn't done anything! To me saying he wants to be an ICON and ENTERTAINER regardless of the context says a lot about who he is and his desires. It makes me not want him on the team that I cheer for. I know I wouldn't pick him if I were Nix. Thats just me. I respect your opinion to write it off as something said innocently said. Thats fine for you. Its not fine for me. Personally, being an ICON is a lot more than having one good year in college and winning a BCS title...Tee Martin. Being an ICON of the game of football takes Super Bowl Championships not BCS titles. If you think you are going to waltz right into the NFL and be an ICON because you one 14 games at the D-1 level of college football...Wow...The NFL and D-1 are not even close to the same animal. Terrifying if that is the way he thinks. But thats just my opinion.

http://www.cbssports.com/#!/nfl/story/14966135/top-100-dazzling-qb-duo-cant-get-separation I was really surprised to not see Kyle Williams on this list. I did not think Stevie would be out Honorable Mention. He had a great season, but its only one season and most of the guys on the list have been at it for a few years.

Yes, watching him play football, in what seems like a very vanilla system*, I thought Cam Newton was the best football player in the College game. He probably is the best football player in the draft. I, personally, feel that being a FOOTBALL player is extremely different than being a Quarterback. The best football player on the Bills is probably Kyle Williams. Should he line up at QB because he is our BEST player? I sure hope not. Maybe our best athlete is CJ Spiller, but I don't want him at QB either. Newton saying that he wants to be an ICON and ENTERTAINER is terrifying. Look dude, the NFL will go on with or without Cam Newton, no doubts. Cam Newton will not be millionaire without the NFL. He certainly won't be a millionaire for long if he'd rather be an ICON than a Quarterback. I seriously doubt that any QB currently in the HoF went into the league thinking they were going to be an ICON within a few short years. I am pretty sure all of those guys went into the NFL thinking that they wanted to WIN and do everything that it takes to win. Its just my opinion and feelings about things. A huge part of drafting guys, especially in Rd 1 of the draft where there is so much money being handed out is knowing their personality. You don't get that from just watching a guy play football. You get that by listening to what he says and how he acts between the games in college and the draft night. Tebow said all the right things. Newton is not. I wanted Tebow after watching him play football, and even more after listening to him and how he was going to work harder than ever to be the best he could be. Not once did he talk about being an ENTERTAINER or ICON. If you work hard enough it comes. If you rely on your god-given talents, sometimes that isn't enough. Just remember Boobie Miles from Friday Night Lights...dude shouldda lifted some weights. You can't just look at the tapes. Its just not enough information. There is so much more than what a guy has done in between the white lines. Thats why guys like JaMarcus Russell sucked.

Thing is, there is a lot of smoke blown this time of year. The Bills are holding a good hand at 3. They need to play the bluff as well as the cards. We'll see what happens in 10 days.

I am thinking in the same area as the OP. I am looking at 3,500 yards 25-31 Tds 12-17ints. I will be very happy with that season. Its more than adequate numbers for an NFL season.

Thats a leader. Invite everyone over, put up in your home for a week and get to work. I love it. Go FITZ!

As is so often repeated here and everywhere, teams are not going to tip their cap as what they are thinking pertaining to ANY prospect. That being said, do you really think the Panthers would come out and say: "this guy is not for us, he is too dumb"? NO. Of course not! Neither would any other team picking in the top 5-10 picks. They want to use it as bait. They are always looking to gain an advantage. If you can get another team to believe that you really might pull the trigger on a kid that has some ??? then you are at an advantage because now you are creating a crisis for other teams and when there is a crisis people will do some interesting things. All I am saying is that there are some serious concerns based on the little information that we as fans get. None of us sat down and talked football with Gruden or Newton, so we dont know what we dont know. We can only judge off of what is shown to us. That is certainly the media's choice. Maybe Newton really can handle the "verbage" of an NFL playbook, but from the snippet that I saw, I am pretty certain that it would be a long and winding road to get there. That scares me. I don't like that. I dont want that. I am with Hindsight and every other person on here who DOES NOT want Cam Newton in Buffalo. I'll be the first to admit that after watching him all season at Auburn I was all about getting Cam Newton in B-lo, but during the predraft process, with everything, positive and negative that have come out surrounding Cam, I have completely changed my mind. I wouldn't touch him with a 10 foot pole. He is gonna steal a Christmas that we've been waiting 11 years for....

Obviously, it was hyperbole. I am sure Hindsight, like all of us here, is into the draft and watches the clips, reads the articles and makes judgements and assessments based on all of those things. Of course it was overboard, but really, not by much. If you are going to be an "Icon and Entertainer" you'd better be prepared when the camera goes on, and in this case Newton was not ready. He is a very controversial figure in this draft for a myriad of reasons. The fact that he couldn't remember a single play from the Auburn offense and went on to say that all he had to do was look at a number on the sidelines is scary. If you know that on #36 you are supposed to fake a handoff and then run left and thats all you know...wow... I wouldn't want to give that guy $40 million either. Of course, if you have the deep pockets and are willing to sign away $40 million to some kid who has about as much chance of failing at his job as succeeding, please, go ahead and write that check good sir.

I agree with Pete!

I agree with hindsight, although this sounds more like foresight...

Perhaps, but what is more likely is the talent evaluators for the NFL Draft look at certain aspects of a player's game that translate into success in the NFL. Guys at DL with good uppper body strength, long arms, a quick first step off the snap of the ball, above average agility, etc are likely to be drafted higher and will have higher expectations once in the NFL. Its just what they're looking for when evaluating players. I guess you could call it a script...

I think the Bills will stand pat at 3. Nix says if your guy is there you better take him cuz there is no promise he'll be there later

Craziness man. Absolutely crazy.

I think we can. I don't think the defense has to be dominating. I think they have to be much better, but they do not have to be the 2000 Ravens (or was it 2001?). I think that Fitzpatrick will be everything we could get out of any other QB with a FULL Training Camp and Preseason as the Number 1 guy. I've watched all the tape from this past season, and I think that he just has "it." I understand that he does't have the physical tools that Peyton and Brady have, but thats alright. He has plenty of tools that will lead him to success in this league. He has a more than adequate arm, his footwork is excellent, his leadership skills are tremendous, and he makes players around him better. David Nelson had an excellent season, so did Stevie Johnson because of Fitz. The team just seemed to play harder when he came in from week 3 forward. There is so much to be said for having a full season and then a full TC under your belt before taking the field in the opening weekend. The timing and chemistry between yourself and every player, not just the WRs, is so much better and more fluid. The guys will begin to see the same things that Fitz sees and will anticipate his checks at the LOS, they'll be able to be one additional step ahead because they'll have seen it and thought about it before he makes the call, instead of reacting to the call when its made. I like Fitz. I think he is more than capable of taking this team places. I am excited to him lead the Bills, I hope for the next 5-7 years.

Correct, I am not at the practices and I have never met Aaron Maybin. Maybe he can catch, maybe he can run a route. I don't know. I know he is a good enough athlete to at least let him try. Here is a thought, think about what you are reading before typing something stupid in a response.