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  1. Things I will remember about EJ's time in Buffalo:

     

    His comeback against the Panthers in the home opener of his rookie season.

     

    His picture perfect handoffs to Fred Jackson.

     

    His beautiful touchdown pass to JJ Watt.

     

    His 7 TD performance against the Jaguars in London.

     

    I own 10,000 shares of EJMLL. :censored:

     

    Please share your fondest EJ memories.

    Who can forget his hard count that left the Jets rolling on the turf, laughing?
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    Todays athletes are far superior IMO....the training is better, they have nutritionist, psychologist etc.....that's why world records fall every year....take an athlete for the 70s vs today, it's night and day....hell, the guys from that era marveled at today's NFL players....

    This really isn't debatable.

     

    And I think the rule changes have been overblown, as well. The main reason the NFL is more of a passing league today is that coaches have realized that passing is the best way to move the football and score points. This has always been true in the modern era, but coaches who were raised on "three yards and a cloud of dust" were just slow to come around to it. The best teams have almost always been the ones with the best QBs, going back to the very first Super Bowls.

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    Well, yeah, you're right about what you said. It's done by radar. There is also a margin for error with both measurements, I believe.

     

    More of what I was getting at was that it's not a terminal velocity measurement or a release point one. It's measured at 30 yards so it's only a sign of what velocity they generate at a certain fixed point. Not every throw is travelling that far in the air so it's not really a damning thing in itself. It can be for deep passing but it's not exactly a death nail measurement and arm strength can be worked on through physical and technical maturation.

    Maybe so, but the numbers still tell a pretty bleak story for the sub-54 MPH group.
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    People who point to the Colts as an argument for tanking ignore the unique reality of that situation.

    And the fact that they have been playing in the worst division in NFL history since Luck came into the league. And the fact that Luck was out of college eligibility that year, unlike Darnold, and had no choice but to go there.
  5. Did he just become a bad tackler in NO? Because he was very sure tackler here in Buffalo IIRC.

     

    Just found this article from December about his time in NO:

    http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/like-it-or-not-jairus-byrd-is-one-of-saints-best-defenders-122516

    Thank you. The irrational Byrd hatred runs deep here. As Cover 1 recently documented, Byrd is still playing at a pretty high level and would be a welcome addition to the Bills' defensive backfield.
  6. The bullpen comparison is terrible. A pitcher isn't graded on his warm ups, he's graded on pitching live or in a game simulation where he would warm up and then pitch as if he was in a real game. His velocity in those two situations should be the same. What's most concerning about a low velocity at the Combine is that there's no reason a QBs mechanics shouldn't be as perfect as that QB is currently capable of. The more common problem is a great velocity at the Combine where there is no pass rush or distraction due to reading a defense/calling audibles/etc., but seeing a worse velocity in game situations due to a player's mechanics breaking down.

    Exactly,
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    Adam SchefterVerified account @AdamSchefter 54s55 seconds ago

     

     

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    Former Bengals G Kevin Zeitler expects to sign with Cleveland, per sources. Big day for Browns O line. Highest paid guard in NFL history.

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    People here love to laugh at the Browns but they are building a Dallas-like O-line and they have a sh-t-ton of draft picks this year, in a very deep draft. And a boatload of picks next year, too. They might very well make the playoffs before the Bills do,
  8. Exactly. In retrospect, it's clear that a lot of people on this board overvalued Tyrod, saying that his existing contract was a bargain. It wasn't. That's why the Bills never were going to bring him back on that existing contract. This is a fair deal, and probably the best the Bills could do at QB for the next year or two. But let's not kid ourselves -- it is a "bridge QB" deal, and the bridge is to a full rebuild starting as soon as 2018, depending largely on how this season plays out.

    The fact is, until Wednesday, no one on this board really knew if TT's contract was a bargain or not. Apparently, the market for his services was not as hot as some suspected. It happens. I would not call his new contract a bridge though; I think it's another "prove it" deal for a guy who has started less than 30 NFL games and has shown tantalizing promise, but also real weaknesses. Bridge contracts are for known mediocrities like Brian Hoyer.
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    Look at that list of the top 25%ile in that article. It's a sad list, some several years into their careers. Velocity didn't help these guys.

    You're missing the point. The numbers suggest that being able to throw the ball with a lot of velocity doesn't mean you will succeed in the NFL, but NOT being able to do so means you almost certainly won't. Hence the concern about Watson.
  10. No the metric is great. The problem is that qbs receive wildly varying training. Measure them 2-3 years into their nfl careers (when they've all received pretty similar training) and then judge. It's a scout's job not just to assess combine velocity, but to project where it might be with the proper training. Velocity in and of itself is hugely important.

    I think we agree that it can be a useful metric, but with all due respect, you're just speculating WRT the training these guys might or might not be getting. I would imagine they are all working on their velocity going into the combine, knowing that scouts will be paying attention to it.
  11. I'm skeptical of any metric that tells me Colt McCoy has as strong an arm as Cam Newton. Nevertheless, it does seem to have value as a cutoff point. Having a really strong arm doesn't mean you're going to make it in the league, but if you can't fire it at least 54 MPH, there's not much hope. Similar to 40 yard dash times for WRs, it would seem.

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