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i must have missed that. Link?....scary part is published reports about his struggles to run the Scout Team....
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Are you Watson fans concerned that his "fastball" only hit 49 MPH at the combine? I am. I used to be a fan of using the 10th pick on him, but for QBs, this stat seems to be the equivalent of a WR running a 4.80 40-yard dash--a huge red flag.
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I read it (a long time ago) and I remember them obsessing over Youkilis for half the book, God of Walks, or something like that. OPS was the super-stat, if I remember correctly, and the key was valuing players by sabremetrics over old fashioned stats. Good read.
Yes, and unfortunately the obsession with walks and "working the count" caught on around the league and is now a major contributing factor to three and a half hour baseball games, which are now the norm.
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1) Atlanta has a franchise qb and had a couple bad years before this year. And they drafted ONE receiver since then in the 4th round (2015, Justin Hardy).
2) the Texans spent 2 picks in the 20s on WRs. Completely different than one at 4, 10, & another 1st rounder to boot.
They were forced to give a terrible contract to a qb they got rid of a year later. Now, they have no qb.
3) good qbs make good WRs. Right now, no other receiver will look great since we don't have a great throwing qb. Sammy is the only mouth to get feed consistently and he probably doesn't get the ball enough.
Again, look at the Steelers and how they draft WRs. Wr is a cool position. But if your oline sucks and your qb isn't good, receiver is the definition of a dependent postion.
The Steelers have been very good at drafting and developing WRs in the lower rounds, no question about it. We have not been as fortunate (or as good).
Aren't you concerned about the fact that Watkins is going to be on year four of his rookie deal this year? Assuming we pick up his option, he's only under contract for two more seasons. We need another potential no. 1 receiver on the roster, don't we?
How would you feel about taking Howard at 10? I'm starting to warm to the idea, despite that the league-wide history of taking first round TEs is not great.
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I really like Davis and I really like Williams.
But there is not one example of a successful franchise that has ever invested 2 top 10 picks on WRs 5 years apart.
You've made this point before and, although there might be some truth to it, I don't think it's a reason not to take Williams, Davis or Ross if one of them happens to be the best player on the board when the Bills pick comes up.
First, I can think of a few successful teams that have invested heavily in the position. For example, Atlanta made a huge investment in the position when they traded up for J. Jones (one of the only instances I can think of where a first round trade-up actually worked) and Houston has recently used two first round picks on WR. More importantly, though, there is no logical reason a team shouldn't invest heavily in the position. Which team is better off, a team that landed two outstanding WRs with their first-round picks in successive years, or a team who landed an outstanding WR with their first round pick two years ago but then drafted a mediocre front seven player with their first rounder the year after?
Also, I disagree that WR is a "dependent position" in the NFL. Having one or more game-breaking WRs opens up the field and creates opportunities for the entire offense, not just in the passing game. You don't need a "franchise QB" for your offense to benefit enormously from having WRs who can create mismatches for the defense. And vice versa: Look at what happened to the Bills offense the past two years when Watkins was sidelined.
Lastly, in the Bills' case, the cupboard is bare at WR, other than the oft-injured Sammy. It's clearly an area of need. And don't forget, teams DO need lots of WRs. They aren't like QBs--teams generally carry six of them and there are often three on the field at the same time. And as a bonus, many of them also contribute heavily on special teams.
IMO, the only reason for the Bills NOT to draft a WR at 10 this year would be if none those guys is the BPA.
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Good, that rules out the Bills, which is fine since Seattle wants "a mint" for him, according to the article.Sherman is involved in the trade effort, but hes looking to play for a contender and wouldnt cooperate with trade talks if the talks are with a bad team.
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Did I ever say Hasselbeck was good? The TEAM went 5-3 with him at QB, which undermines the most frequently mentioned excuse for Luck--that he's surrounded by a bunch of bums.Huh? He threw 9 tds in 8 games and they missed the playoffs a year after going to the afc championship game.
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40-year old Matt Hasselbeck did pretty well in 2015 playing with that pathetic cast of characters, didn't he?...how the hell can you judge Luck as overrated with the cast of characters that fumblin', mumblin', stumblin' Grigson put around him along with Chucky in the HC seat?..throw in "BUZZED" Irsay for good measure......you don't consider those to be mitigating circumstances in Luck's performance to date?...YOU can do better than THAT IMO...........
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However, unlike the unwavering belief that many posters have that they have to "stick to their guns" and dig into their foxholes, I think Taylor still could be the long term answer.
No, it's not possible for a quarterback to improve after 29 NFL starts. It's never happened.
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Does he not already have shoulder problems ? Sometimes I think bama players are overrated because of so much talent around each other.
Seems counter-intuitive, but there might be something to this. As a group, they certainly don't seem to live up to expectations.
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Why would Seattle, a very smart team that knows Sherman best, be willing to let him go and potentially replace him with a rookie from this year's draft? Because 10 aging core players command 60% of their cap allotment. And none of them play offensive line. If I recall correctly, Seattle had the lowest paid OL in the NFL last year and paid the price. To stay relevant, and spend appropriately by position, they need to jettison some big contracts.
Do you think you know more than Schneider? Nope. I think he knows a thousand times more than me and the average fan. But situations dictate decisions. Trading Sherman away might make sense for the 'Hawks. If Schneider was GM of the Bills he'd probably be trying to acquire Sherman. Different situation.
What makes Sherman more valuable to the Bills than to the Seahawks? He's not necessarily. It's all about opportunity cost and cost-benefit analysis. It might be a bit easier for the Bills to bear the cost of Sherman's contact than it is for the 'Hawks who would get a much cheaper rookie (draft pick) in return.
All good points, but I'm still suspicious. Why jettison Sherman instead of some of the other big contracts? And why be so public about it? I think the Seahawks view Sherman as being on the downside of his career and I think they are tired of his act. I hope he doesn't end up in Buffalo unless he can be had for a third round pick or less, which seems unlikely.
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Ok, we'll just agree to agree then....😆That was what I talked about earlier in the thread. (Why they would)
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They will draft a QB in round 1; only question is whether they try to move up to do so. I could see it...i heard an interview with their play by play guy yesterday. He was convinced that they love Savage and the only reason he hasn't taken the starting job already was bad luck with injuries. He talked up Weeden as the #2 but did think that they would draft someone as well.
I think he's full of BS on Savage. If he was the plan all along they never would have given Osweiler that absurd contract.
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Oh, I get that part: He's past his prime and they think they can replace him with a cheaper, younger option. (They are probably sick of his act, too, although they won't say it publicly.) I just don't know why a team like the Bills would give up a prime pick for him at this point in his career.It doesn't say the Bills would do that. It talks about why Seattle would be open to a trade
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I don't believe that for a second. They aren't going into the season with Tom Savage and Brandon Weeden.Dammit, was hoping they might trade up
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McShay on HOU taking a QB: "Knowing what Bill O'Brien looks for in a QB & the mental component involved, none of the NFL Draft QBs can help"
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I read it, but it doesn't really explain why the Bills should trade a high draft pick for 29-year old player the Seahawks are willing to move on from, especially in a year when the draft is so deep at CB.it is outlined in the link I posted above.
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Anyone who wants to trade a high draft choice for Sherman needs to be able answer these questions:
Why would Seattle, a very smart team that knows Sherman best, be willing to let him go and potentially replace him with a rookie from this year's draft? Do you think you know more than Schneider? What makes Sherman more valuable to the Bills than to the Seahawks?
I just don't see it. This guy is 29 years old and is unquestionably past his prime, even if he's still very good. Oh, and he's a jackass.
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No, The fact that Tyrod's numbers were significantly better when he had a healthy Watkins available is always ignored by the crusaders--and those who are appalled at the idea of drafting a WR in the first round this year.Did we have Sammy for this game?
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Yeah, that's about what I expected from you. Which Oregon QBs have I promoted? Only one I can think of is Marcus Mariota. I'll gladly own up to that one. Go back to pimping Mr. 6-5.Why don't you cry a little louder and tell us more about all the Oregon qb's that should be starting for the Bills ? You're the king of terrible takes but I like the emotion. Guess you've forgotten the raiders and steelers games too.
Fact based arguments of badol ? Lol. He lost his press pass over his Lesean McCoy megafail.
Best qb since Kelly = aka 25th in passing yards sandwiched between Simien and Tannenhill. Puleeeze
1-7 vs .500 teams = don't caaaaaaaaare. Get it together Mann. Here's a nice clip for ya if you're tired of the Baltimore one. Check out EJ baby !!
Can't even pass for 190 yards while down a million. Sad. You're better than this.
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John from trade this crappy qb way back in 2016 ! Tyrod blows and you know it.
Your anti-Tyrod crusade is easily the most tiresome and asinine crusade in the history of TBD, and that takes in a lot of territory. To summarize, your unrelenting crusade is based on the following unrelated premises: (a) That the undeniably best QB the Bills have had since Drew Bledsoe (and probably going all the way back to Jim Kelly) sucks, and (b) an ACC quarterback whose career record against Division 1 college opponents is 6-5, is going to light up the NFL.
The thing about crusades like yours--aside from the fact that they contribute nothing to the board--is that people tend to remember them and, when they are proven to have been baseless or just plain wrong, the crusader is judged accordingly. What's particularly pathetic about your crusade is that you've never backed it up with anything except references to the opening game against Baltimore this year, the supposed NFL ranking of the Bills' passing attack in 2016, and a series of juvenile comments that quarterback X "pansed" Tyrod. Meanwhile you have never really responded to fact-based arguments of people like BADOL, who have pointed out that Tyrod, while maybe not a grade-A franchise QB, brings a lot of value to the table that cannot be easily or cheaply replaced.
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IMO, this is the most realistic and attractive trade down scenario for the Bills. They move back a little and recoup some of the late round picks Whaley has donated to other teams.The Saint's are openly looking for a Drew Brees replacement, and the Browns desperately need a QB, so I see the Browns trading up two spots to snag him. I used the draft pick trade "thing" from CBS to determine the picks worth. 10th is worth 1300 while 12th is worth 1200. The Browns 4th and 5th round picks equal around 100 together making it an even trade.
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wasn't talking about mocks. I meant here on TSW. My recollection is that Shaq was a very popular pre-draft pick.Like which mocks, Mannc? The closest I saw was Walter Football, which predicted we'd take Ragland at 19, not Shaq. NFL had us taking Rankins after Ragland went 1 pick ahead.
I don't have ESPN Insider etc so I don't see some of the most popular - maybe some of those predicted Shaq?
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You might be right about the mock drafts on espn, etc. I recall Shaq getting the most votes in the pre-draft poll on TSW, though. FWIWNot true, I looked. In fact you should too because it's funny to see where they had players going (Zeke to cleveland etc.).
They simply have no idea. Every mock is 90% wrong
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Really? A LOT of folks predicted the Bills would take Shaq last year.The only 1st round guys that have been successfully predicted in the last 30 years are Bruce and Dareus.
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