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That would scare me. Whaley might panic and give away more picks to move up for him.Lombardi and schefter are talking Rueben Foster maybe be there for the first 1/3 of the 2nd round. I'd think that'd be a no brainer.
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So, should the Lions have passed on Calvin Johnson because they wasted first round picks on Roy and Mike Williams a couple years earlier?Maybe we should start doing what good teams do and not what the 0-16 Lions did.
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It's irrelevant what we've spent on Sammy, Woods, Goodwin, etc. Our WR corps needs to be upgraded in a big way. That doesn't mean we HAVE to use pick 10 on WR, but if the BPA is WR, the fact that we spent two number ones on Sammy three years ago makes no difference. That's what's called a sunk cost. Again, I'm fine with using a later pick or picks at the position instead, but this "no good team invests major resources in WRs" argument is no reason to pass on a guy like Williams or Davis.Always, I respect your thoughts. A few things:
1) Sammy is our elite receiver. We invested a #4 and another 1st round pick on him. I don't know if any team has invested that much on a wr besides Atlanta. And then there is Woods with a 2nd and Goodwin with a 3rd.
We keep throwing high picks on picks on receiver hoping they will make our qbs better. That is faulty logic. It should be the opposite way.
2) how many elite receivers are the reason their teams win? How many elite WRs have even won SBs?
The Pats had 2 top 10 TEs and a bunch of guys who would be 3rd WRs on most teams. The Steelers never draft WRs high. Kelce is the Chiefs best receiver. GB doesn't have a 1st round wr. The Seahawks have Jimmy Graham and 7th round Doug Baldwin.
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Rex?I could have sworn I saw somewhere that he was lazy, unmotivated and didn't really like football. I may have mixed him up with someone else.
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That's funny, trading into the top 5 for a QB has literally never worked, but trading up for WR has succeeded several times. But by all means, keep repeating this maxim.There's only one thing you trade up for if you're giving up a first-round pick or more, and that's a potential franchise QB. You don't for a WR. You do for a QB.
Eli worked out pretty well for the Giants in a tradeup.
And no, Eli does not count. First, the Giants were already in the top five and had used their pick on Rivers, who turned out to be as good as Eli (albeit without the rings). The trade was made because Eli refused to play for the Chargers, not because a team needed to trade up for a QB.
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I can't decide between them. Davis looks a little more explosive, but Williams has performed really well at a very high level of completion. Both will probably be good pros.I realize that most people like Davis better. But I was talking to someone in my network who LOVES Mike Williams. Said he would take him every time over Davis and that Williams will be great in the NFL. He just is such a physical player that you don't need to move around.
If you get Mike Williams you play him as the #1 WR (on the other team's best corner) and move Sammy around in the offense.
Analytics guys like Davis better, people I know that are more old school tape guys prefer Mike Williams.
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And I think the Pats would it, too.That's an interesting thought!! They can turn around and take someone like Derek Barnett at 12, Dalvin Cook at 33 and Obi Melifonwu at 52. That would be a nice start to the draft.
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How about this: Trade the no 1 pick to NE for Garappolo and Malcolm Butler?
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Well, the fact that the Bills hired him is certainly a red flag...his coaching style is obviously terrible - he hasn't won a single game.
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Do you think that will be McDermott's style? It's certainly possible, but I'm hoping to be pleasantly surprised.Well, he already had Bylsma. Bland, boring play not to lose.
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Why the panic?? The Bills' QB situation is the best it's been in decades. They have a top 20 starter who has started less than 30 NFL games, and a second year guy with huge upside. There is no urgent need to take a QB in the draft this year, especially in the first two rounds, and especially with no sure fire guy available. Taking someone like Dobbs or Kelly in round 5 makes far more sense for this team.Exactly. How can you not draft a QB when you have desperately needed one for 20 years and look yourself in the mirror? I guess you just pray that they all suck so that you don't look like a jackass.
Take a chance and grab one if you ever want to win a championship.
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But picking up the option allows them to use the franchise tag on someone else next year...Perhaps.
But it's really not necessary.
Difference between the option and franchising him is just a few million bucks against a massive amount of available cap space next year..............and that buys them a whole year to either extend Sammy long term while he is a year younger........or maybe just to decide if Sammy is going to heal or turn into a Bill Walton-like foot injury career disaster.
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Absolutely, which is one reason I laugh when people say WR is a "dependent" position, and not worth a high draft pick unless you a so-called "franchise QB."I noticed that Tyrod had a lot more time later in the season once Watkins came back...that extra safety that defenses can't walk down into the box makes an enormous difference.
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So says you. This entirely subjective opinion is certainly not supported by the players' comparative statistics, is it?Winston is a real QB you can build a team around. TT is just a guy that we are paying money to because McDermott coaches scared.
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If you can't see how much more fun it would be to follow a team with a Winston or Mariotta as the QB of the team vs a Bills fan who has to spend months watching as his team "watches film" on his QB and asks him to take a paycut I don't know what to tell you.
You do realize that Tyrod Taylor's numbers as an NFL starter are at least as good as Jameis Winston's, right? (Taylor actually had a significantly higher QB rating than Winston in both 2015 and 2016 and that's not even taking into consideration Taylor's contribution in the running game.) People are in love with Winston because of his potential (and rightly so), but both he and Taylor have approximately the same number of NFL starts. So why can't you "have fun" following a team with Tyrod Taylor at QB?
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So EJ would now be a franchise QB if only he had sat behind Kevin Kolb his rookie year? You'll never convince anyone of that.Ej Manuel.
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Name one.There are a ton of young qbs who are ruined because they play too early, struggle, & then get tossed aside. .
Yeah, the NFL is really struggling, isn't it? No one watches any more...4) the NFL badly needs a minor league.
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Even during the Bills' Super Bowl years, when the Pats were lousy, they were a tough out for the Bills. I was at Foxborough to watch Kelly and Co. lose to a crummy Pats team in 1992 (IIRC).Bledsoe years were good for the Pats, they had a few other pockets of very good seasons as well.
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Interesting...no Hooker, Adams or Peppersok, our Top 5 on our board: In order
1. Solomon Thomas- DE Stanford
2. Corey Davis- WR W. Mich
3. Marshon Lattimore- CB OS
4. OJ Howard - TE Bama
5. John Ross- WR Wash
Imo
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Do you believe Tasker? This draft is far more loaded than last year and Cardale went at the end of the 4th. What has he done other than spend a year in Buffalo with David Lee?
EJ got WORSE after 4 years of Bills coaching!
I don't necessarily agree with Tasker, but I don't agree with you that this draft is far more loaded at QB than last year. To me, they look about the same, with maybe a bit more depth this year. I don't see that Cardale has done much to help his stock since he was drafted a year ago, but I don't think he's hurt it either. I'm not sure what the Bills' coaching staff or FO think of Cardale, or what the buzz is about him around the league. The point is, he's not going get cut unless he really looks awful. I think folks who want the Bills to use a high pick on a QB this year are going to be disappointed. In fact, I won't be surprised if they don't draft any QB this year.
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But many here say Cardale is a bust and will be a training camp cut.On the John Murphy show 1/2 hour ago, Tasker said that Cardale would likely go in the second round in this draft if he were in it this year. They mentioned he would be right behind Trubisky in terms of Qb rankings. They didn't mention where Trubisky was in those rankings compared to Watson, Mahommes and Kizer though.
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Around here we call them busts after playing the 4th quarter of game 17, with an interim HC in his 1st game
True. One "fan" has already labeled Cardale a failure because has not progressed as rapidly as his "contemporaries" (i.e., Russell Wilson, Kurt Cousins, etc) and someone else said he obviously sucks because he didn't start his rookie year. Until a guy gets a meaningful opportunity to play, you don't know what he can do. We are now going into year three of Tyrod Taylor and the team is still not sure what they've got. (I know many will argue that point.) That's why "drafting a QB every year" is a bad idea.
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Oh.Shaq, Ragland, Seymour, possibly washington will be starters this year.
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That's funny, I count zero starters from last year's draft. At least so far.and if they can come away with 3/4 starters like they did last year fan should be extremely happy
if we trade out of 10
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