[Who was the worst 1st Round Pick the Bills ever made?]

 

It's not even close....it's Walt Patulski

 

1st overall pick in the 1972 draft and the dude played 4 years here and did very little. Yes, he was better than Aaron Maybin and some of the others, but they weren't #1 overall picks. That matters. They had their choice of any player they wanted and ended up with him. Patulski is ranked #27 on the all-time NFL bust list, FYI

Wrong. Not even close to a bust.

[Who was the worst 1st Round Pick the Bills ever made?]

I didn't check every page but does anyone remember Walt Patulski?

You apparently don't. He was far from a bust. Four-year starter, who made 22-sacks (in an era when sacks were much rarer), and was thereafter traded for a second round pick that turned into Joe Devlin.

[Find me a versatile Corner in the draft]

If were talking versatile CB I think it has to start with Adoree Jackson from USC right? He won the Paul Hornung award for the nations most versatile player, I think he's played every position on that team.... WR (39 rec, 628 YDS, 6 TD- career since 2014), RB (15 carries, 92 YDS, 6.1 YPC AVG- career), PR/KR (79 KR, 2141 YDS, 27.1 AVG, 4 TD) (46 PR, 578 YDS, 12.6 AVG, 4 TD) and then you get to the defensive side , he had 55 total tackles, 2 TFL, 5 INT this season on defense. If still around in round 2 he would be the exact player that McDermott is talking about, he ran a 4.42 - 40 at the combine, great football AWR and has been said that he loves the game, can't really get more versatile than this guy if you ask me.

And he's the NCAA champion long-jumper!

[1st round pick want/don't want/surprise/think]

Want: Adams or Hooker

Don't Want: J. Allen

Dark Horse: Solomon Thomas

Think: Lattimore

[EJ Manuel signing with Raiders.]

 

EJ Manuel had an incredible advantage of 5 years at Florida State in a pro style offense, getting a ton of starts under one of the best offensive staffs in the country and entering the NFL at a fully mature 23 years old. If he still, 4 years later can't complete basic passes regularly, blows basic fundamentals like setting his feet when he throws, and locks onto WR's like Maverick from Top Gun then I don't think it was ever meant to be. Hell even Jimbo Fisher knew it when he admitted they had to scale stuff back for EJ, but could go full bore with Winston.

 

Sorry I don't buy that EJ was a good QB railroaded by bad coaching and circumstance. He just never was good enough to begin with and a major whiff by Nix and Whaley.

Yes, and this should have been obvious to anyone who watched the game against Florida EJ's senior year. Against the best defense he faced all year, he was virtually incapable of completing a forward pass despite all of FSU's talent on offense.

[Who was the worst 1st Round Pick the Bills ever made?]

Maybin, Williams, and Losman come close, but the winner has to be Walt Patulski. He was the first pick in the draft, an All American, and winner of other awards such as the Lombardi Trophy. As a Bill, he was as bad if not worse than all the other losers they've drafted at number one.

As noted above, this is completely and utterly false. Patulski started all four years he played for the Bills. He led the team in sacks his rookie year, while heading up an improved defense. He finished second in sacks (with seven) his second year. After starting for four years (and recording a total of 22 sacks in an era when teams did not pass much and sacks therefore were difficult to get), Patulski had a falling out with Lou Saban and was traded to the Cardinals in exchange for a second round draft pick, which the Bills used to select Joe Devlin. Patulski was hardly a bust, although he perhaps did not live up to his first overall selection, albeit in 1972, one of the worst overall drafts in NFL history. He was a far, far better player than the likes of Maybin, Losman, Mike Williams, McCargo, Hunter, Tuttle, Flowers, etc.

[Who was the worst 1st Round Pick the Bills ever made?]

Being #1 overall, and me being 100% Polish, Got to be Walt Patulski

 

Hey at least Rex Ryan remembered him

Stop with the "Walt Patulski was a bust" narrative. He really wasn't. Not even in the Bills' top 15 draft busts.

 

http://buffalonews.com/2016/11/19/busting-40-years-nfl-darkness-walt-patulski-explains-went-wrong/

[looks like cb or saftey for rd1 10]

If they can be had in the mid to late first round I think trading down for them would be a perfect scenario.

I agree, but don't think many teams will want to give up a second round pick to move up to 10.

[looks like cb or saftey for rd1 10]

I think they go WR in round 2, D in the first. Davis and Williams are probably mid to late first rounders.

[Who was the worst 1st Round Pick the Bills ever made?]

I go way back, but Walt Patulski or Perry Tuttle make the top of my list.

Patulski is not even in the top 15. There was an excellent article in the News about him recently. Patulski had a pretty respectable career. He was a great athlete who was severely hampered by some of the worst coaching in the history of this franchise.

[Who was the worst 1st Round Pick the Bills ever made?]

Troup could be the worst because (a) it was a huge reach for need and (2) the guy picked immediately after him, who just happened to have WNY roots and should have been the obvious choice.

[Would Mccoy for Sherman make sense for both sides?]

HELL NO!!! (In my Stephen A Smith voice)

Don't worry, Seattle would laugh in Whaley's face if he proposed such a trade.

You said the draft was deep at RB. Why would Seattle give up a top 4 DB for an aging RB. They can just draft a young RB and keep Sherman

They wouldn't even consider it. I doubt they would give us a 4th round pick for McCoy.

[Some Thoughts As EJ Walks Out The Door]

Things I will remember about EJ's time in Buffalo:

 

His comeback against the Panthers in the home opener of his rookie season.

 

His picture perfect handoffs to Fred Jackson.

 

His beautiful touchdown pass to JJ Watt.

 

His 7 TD performance against the Jaguars in London.

 

I own 10,000 shares of EJMLL.

 

Please share your fondest EJ memories.

Who can forget his hard count that left the Jets rolling on the turf, laughing?

[Seems WR at 10 for sure]

This draft is deep enough that players in the 3rd or 4th this year would have gone in the second last year.

 

No need to panic.

In other words, it would be a good year to have a fourth round pick...

[EJ Manuel signing with Raiders.]

I am surprised Jacksonville did not sign EJ. He's already proven he can win games for the Jaguars.

[Tom Brady-The Greatest of His Era, Not All-Time]

 

Todays athletes are far superior IMO....the training is better, they have nutritionist, psychologist etc.....that's why world records fall every year....take an athlete for the 70s vs today, it's night and day....hell, the guys from that era marveled at today's NFL players....

This really isn't debatable.

 

And I think the rule changes have been overblown, as well. The main reason the NFL is more of a passing league today is that coaches have realized that passing is the best way to move the football and score points. This has always been true in the modern era, but coaches who were raised on "three yards and a cloud of dust" were just slow to come around to it. The best teams have almost always been the ones with the best QBs, going back to the very first Super Bowls.

[Mike Williams just ran an unofficial 4.53 40 at pro day]

Why? Because he ran a 4.22 40?

Yeah, it's not like Ross was a very productive receiver at UW, right?

[Free Agents 2017 edition]

 

@albertbreer

Pats offered Dont'a Hightower $10 million per last summer. I'd expect new deal to come in at a base of $10M-$11M/year. Tough market for him.

Yep, times are tough...

[If you had to choose 1 out of the 10, who would it be?]

The #10 pick this year for a 2nd Round pick this year and a 3rd next? Seriously? thank God you're not the GM.

Yeah, every team in the league would be lined up to make that deal.

[Tyrod's new restructured contract - the details]

Tyrod Taylor's contract is a "bridge deal"

 

http://www.buffalorumblings.com/2017/3/14/14921390/buffalo-bills-quarterback-tyrod-taylors-contract-is-a-bridge-deal?utm_campaign=buffalorumblings&utm_content=chorus&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter

I would call it another "prove it" contract. The guy has less than 30 NFL starts. It is not at all clear that he has hit his ceiling.

[Bills lose 3rd & 4th rd. draft picks in '18 due to stupidity]

As to the topic at hand, why don't we wait and see if/when Zach, Gragg, Bryant, Hunter, Tate, etc sign anywhere before we go blasting the organization for not betting a FA loss.

Don't forget EJ!

[Ball velocity numbers from Combine are in]

 

Well, yeah, you're right about what you said. It's done by radar. There is also a margin for error with both measurements, I believe.

 

More of what I was getting at was that it's not a terminal velocity measurement or a release point one. It's measured at 30 yards so it's only a sign of what velocity they generate at a certain fixed point. Not every throw is travelling that far in the air so it's not really a damning thing in itself. It can be for deep passing but it's not exactly a death nail measurement and arm strength can be worked on through physical and technical maturation.

Maybe so, but the numbers still tell a pretty bleak story for the sub-54 MPH group.

[Ball velocity numbers from Combine are in]

Wouldn't touch any of these QB's with a 5000000 foot pole.

Thanks. Another highly insightful observation. And as usual, supported by compelling evidence.

[Who's good with OJ Howard at 10?]

The history of tight ends drafted in that neighborhood is not good. Not good, at all.

[Tyrod's new restructured contract - the details]

 

People who point to the Colts as an argument for tanking ignore the unique reality of that situation.

And the fact that they have been playing in the worst division in NFL history since Luck came into the league. And the fact that Luck was out of college eligibility that year, unlike Darnold, and had no choice but to go there.