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What are your thoughts about the Honey Badger? I saw a mock draft that had the Bills taking him in the 5th or 6th round.
He's an undersized DB from the SEC. I can see the Bills taking him in the first or second round.
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I'm comfortable with Sanchez staying on the Jets as well.
Nice spin. I think we all know it was Wannstedt's vanilla defense; let's see what Pettine does with those players Buddy acquired.
OK, it was a cheap shot.
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That's awesome. Couldn't have happened to a better organization.
Don't look now, but the Bills are in a similar situation with Fitz. The only difference is that Sanchez has shown he can win games, at least under certain circumstances. He certainly carved up Buddy's defense the first week of the season.
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"Better #'s" is too general a test. Would he be a winning qb? A qb that takes his team to playoffs ? Take his team to a coin toss of getting to super bowl ? No, no I don't believe fitz would.
Look at the highlights from smith: I see a guy with a much better arm, better mechanics, better footwork, can run a more up tempo offense, faster when he takes off running , and more presence on the field
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXX9mJAW--Q&feature=youtube_gdata_player
One thing on smith id like to see a stronger arm down field , but still its better than fitz. But the list of flawless QBs is extremely small.
At end of day, The takeaway about SF defense, harbaugh with QBs and smith, should be a focus on building a dominant defense, a coach that can get the best out of QBs, and a QB that can win with the setup. Smith has shown he can, and IMO its obvious his skills are superior to fitz, who IMO wouldn't be sucessful on the 9ers.
I agree with this. I also agree with those who say it's unlikely we will find a franchise QB in this draft. As I understand Fitz's contract situation, though, the Billls are probably less able to afford Smith than the 49ers are, since cutting Fitz apparently would not result in much savings. Something has to be done, though. I just cannot watch another season of Fitz; would much rather see a 3d round rookie or even T-jax.
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$8.5MM for a backup QB seems pretty rich. I can't see them paying that price or any other team willing to part with a draft pick and paying that sum when they can get him in FA for less money. I expect he'll get his wish and be released.
They might wait a year to restructure K'nick, but it won't be any longer than that. I wouldn't be surprised if that happened this off-season, especially if they win on Sunday.
I believe under the new collective bargaining agreement, the 49ers cannot re-structure Kaepernick's contract, even if they wanted to, until the end of NEXT season.
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After watching (some of) the TrainWreck Bowl, just say NO to any QB at #8. Gotta go D with either a DE or LB.
Dion Jordan
Barkevious Mingo
Damontre Moore
At least one of them should be there.
I agree. Seems like a bad year to desperately need a QB. On the other hand, there will probably be a few good ones available to a patient (and smart) team in the middle rounds.
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hindsight is 20-20. There is a no given that a AJ Green, Julio Jones or Aldon smith would have succeeded here. Heck, even a Mario Williams had a piss-poor average season. It is not just the players...It is the coaching staff, building the winning mentality.
If that's the case, then we should just give up because no one can ever know anything, and we can never pass judgment on any GM because different players who we could have taken (and who have been wildly successful on other teams) might have sucked here. The only thing we do know is that after three years of Buddy running this team it is still a bad team with a dreadful defense and no QB.
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Really???
Why would they cut him? Why wouldn't they trade him?
Fitz is on a $8,885,000 per year contract.
Surely some team in the league will perceive a QB who's team was 4 points away from the SB last year & who had a 104.1 QBR this year.......who only is going to cost $7.5M, to be worth trading a 7th round draft pick for.
You are correct. Someone will offer a draft pick for him and if it's not high enough, SF will just keep him. He is apparently a very good teammate. And as someone pointed out, Kaepernick makes less than $1 million/year.
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Q: How do you know when you've lost an argument?
A: When the only response you have left looks something like this:
Don't you have algebra homework to do? School on Monday comes faster than you think. And given your prior posts, you make a great case for longer school days.
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So every GM who hs whiffed on some players is a buffoon. So the GM's who let Urbik go, Pears go and who thought Cordy Glenn was a guard....what are they? JJ Watt could be the next Roid bust and Dareus could have a huge year next year. You probably thought Eric Moulds was a bust because his first two years were awful. You can't just cherry pick the bad without crediting him with the good. We are strong in the trenches thanks to Buddy. He's being phased out so quit the bile.
Not sure if all the GMs you mention are buffoons but this one sure is. And hearing him interviewed on the radio cements my opinion of him. (By the way, I doubt the GMs who cut Urbik and Pears are losing much sleep over those moves. Despite the clamor here, the Bills' o-line is very far from elite--it is merely better than it was when it was putrid a couple years ago.)
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Hey genius, a better coach turned around the team with mostly the same personnel and QB they had in 2010.
So says you. I'm pretty sure there was a substantial influx of new talent to go along with the new and improved coaching.
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Oh Christ --- are you kidding me? San Fran was one game away from the SB without Kaepernick at QB. What the Hell, it's okay to be a hater of the GM and QB but pick a made-up argument that can't be debunked so easily.
Hey Genius, in 2010, the 49ers went 6-10 in the weakest division in football and fired their head coach. So they must have had a few other holes to fill when they drafted Kaepernick in the 2011 draft. Next time, please pick an argument that can't be debunked so easily.
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you not looking at the holes this roster had....again the only reason he ended up in San Fran was they don't have the lack of talent Buffalo does- so they take a flyer on Kaepernick if it doesntr work no one cares or remembers. Not fair
Rubbish. Take a look at what the 49ers' record was the year before they drafted Kaepernick. They had been a bad team for a long time.
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You renegotiate the contract before the trade, obviously.
True, but you're still talking about a guy who's pushing 30, just came off ACL surgery and has a history of never being happy with the contract he just signed. No, thanks.
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Yeah me too. The guy stinks.
Agreed. Denver made a huge mistake bringing in Peyton Manning last year.
No one said Revis is not any good. Just that at this point in his career, he's not worth the Jets' apparent asking price. Manning, by the way, was a free agent, so the Broncos gave up zero draft picks to get him. And of course if you can't see the difference between a franchise QB and a defensive back (albeit a very good one) then I'm not sure what else to say to you.
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Was hoping I wouldn't see Buffalo in the list of teams interested.
Me too. This team's track record with established stars brought in via trade or free agency is even worse than its draft record, if that's possible. It would be a huge mistake and is absolutely the wrong way to build a playoff team.
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The point is that most people here seem to think that Nix has no idea what makes a good QB because of his previous decision on Fitz and TJax and not realizing how good Russell Wilson and Kapernick were when he had a chance to draft them (I don't know is he does or he doesn't, I think he does know talent though pretty well). I was just pointing out that the guy that DID know what makes a great QB and realized how good Russell Wilson was going to be when he had a chance to draft him misfired on his first two, and maybe three chances, and got it right on his fourth.
And in the thread, I said I understand that he should have been taking one anyway, even with Fitz, and agreed he should have; a huge mistake. But that is moot now because he IS taking one.
Which is why I said, "Now, it's easy to say, and VERY true, that Nix should have been drafting rookies anyway. But the fact is, he's drafting one this year. So that argument is old and moot at this point."
Right, and as you point out, even the best talent evaluators (of which Nix certainly is not one) swing and miss regularly with QB prospects, which is why you need to continually try to bring in new prospects until you have your francise guy,hell, even after you have found your franchise guy. What on earth makes you think Nix is going to hit it out of the park with his (presumably) one choice this year?
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When everyone's major fault they have with him is he wasn't smart enough to recognize that Russell Wilson* had what it takes to be a starting NFL QB and chose to keep Ryan Fitzpatrick for two full years after it was clear he wasn't the answer. And nor was Tavaris Jackson.
The genius who did recognize that Russell Wilson was so good and drafted him, signed Charlie Whitehurst right away to be his starter. That tanked. The next year he signed that same Tavaris Jackson to be his starter. That didn't work so well. Then he signed Matt Flynn. He was promptly beat out by a third round rookie. His fourth try was Russell Wilson and he struck gold.
Now, it's easy to say, and VERY true, that Nix should have been drafting rookies anyway. But the fact is, he's drafting one this year. So that argument is old and moot at this point. If the guy you think is the smart one for recognizing QB talent hit on his fourth choice, why is it so hard to think someone else could?
And that is also ignoring that Nix loved Newton when a lot of other guys were wary of him and would have drafted him if Andrew Luck didn't screw us. And he liked Russell Wilson a lot, too, he just didn't pull the trigger when he had the chance and should have in retrospect.
*The same could be said for not selecting Kapernick, in retrospect, but Jim Harbaugh had just taken the job and had no history of taking QBs we could look at. Ozzie Newsome struck out a few times before Flacco. The list goes on.
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This is more gymnastics and speculation (regarding who Buddy like but did not actually draft). It's true that Seattle whiffed on Whitehurst, but at least they were constantly trying hard to upgrade at QB, even though in Hasselback they had a better option than Fitz. And that same burning desire to upgrade at the most important position led to them drafting Wilson even though they had just signed Flynn to a big $$ FA contract. As a result, they appear poised to challenge for the Super Bowl over the next few years. The Bills, meanwhile, sat on their hands and did not even try to draft a young QB to groom, regardless of what they thought of Fitz.
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That was a lot of writing...
Buddy Nix Drafted Aaron Williams over Dalton and Kaepernick...TJ Graham over Russell Wilson...
Sorry, but that's all I need to know...
Well, he also drafted Marcel Dareus over AJ Green, Julio Jones, Aldon Smith, and JJ Watt, etc, but folks here seem to want to give him a pass on that one.
Christ, I guess it's the bash Buddy thread, complete with hand wringing, vitriole and insult spitting. He whiffed on a QB. Yep he did. But he built some good trenches, got a star RB and at least half a good backfield. The payroll is in great shape with plenty of room. He locked in Stevie. We are in a better place to take the next step thanks to the Buddy. It's time to move on from Buddy and it seems we are. I just don't get the dripping bile and Buddy hate I'm reading.
The reason we are not ready to move on is that this buffoon apparently is still the GM of the Buffalo Bills and is positioned to squander yet another draft. When he is shown the door, I promise to stop beating this particular drum.
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These early mocks are useless, don't put too much stock in them. The combine and the seemingly endless draft process will change the draft board a lot. I like the Bills to go after a QB they see is worth it and go hard after a WR in free agency then spend the second rounder on a LB. WR is a huge need and if there isn't one at pick 8 or they want a QB at pick 8 I hope they realize that they need to invest big dollars at WR esp if there is one player there worth it like Bowe from KC.
I personally like the idea of trading for Matt Flynn (A third rounder no more than that) and using the top two picks to address other needs. That's mostly because I like Flynn better than I like the QB's in the draft and think we could use the picks better elsewhere.
I tend to agree with everything you say here, except I think the Bills should be open to taking one of the two highly rated TEs (Ertz or Eifert) in the first round (if they can trade back) or in the second instead of a WR. Talk about a position that has been ignored for decades! Good WRs seem to be plentiful in this draft and can usually be found in the lower rounds.
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We had Brian Brohm, a former 2nd round pick on our roster year one, he failed, Levi Brown was drafted, failed, Thigpen had played for Gailey but he didnt work out and then he brought in VY, that didnt work and they broght Tjax in. Clearly none of these worked but I hardly call it "ignoring" the position
"Ignored" perhaps is not the right word. It is more accurate to say that Nix failed to invest any real assets in trying to improve the position. Brohm and VY were free agents who had been released. Brown was a 7th round pick and Tjax was obtained for a 7th rounder. That constitutes a failure to invest in the future of the franchise at a position of extreme importance and need. Other franchises that were less needy invested far more trying to improve at QB. Those franchises have reaped significant return on their investments.
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Except no one is sticking up for Buddy Nix. Everyone is saying he failed. I have said it over and over. There are/were simply logical reasons for both his picks and why he and the Bills failed.
Yes, and I suppose there were logical reasons why Jacksonville selected a punter one pick before Seattle took Russell Wilson, and KC selected some anonymous O-lineman a couple picks before that. But both of the GMs who made those logical (at the time) picks are now in the unemployment line. Our moron is preparing to tank the Bills' 2013 draft.
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No. Two years in a row the offense was decimated by injuries, woefully lacked talent at WR, got abused by having an abysmal defense, and at least this year got crappy QB play and crappy coaching for the entire season. But I don't think Russell Wilson or Colin Kapernick would have won more than 1-2 games, and I think guys like Andy Dalton and Kirk Cousins would have fared as bad as Fitz.
I never cease to be amused by the mental gymnastics that you and some others around here are willing to go through to excuse the inexcusable.
The facts are as follows: That in 2010 the Patriots, who already had arguably the best QB of all time on the roster, spent a 3d round pick on Ryan Mallet. Mallet might not turn out to be anything special, but then again, he might. I wouldn't bet against him. At any rate, he's a far better prospect than anyone on the Bills' current roster. That in 2011, with the second pick in the second round, the Bills picked yet another DB. Two picks later, the 49ers moved up 9 slots (giving up 3 picks to Denver) to select Colin Kaepernick, whose 10th NFL start will be in the Super Bowl. That in 2012, after Fitz had proven beyond all reasonable doubt that he was at best a career backup in the NFL, Buddy surrendered an extra draft pick to move up several slots in the 3d to pick TJ Graham, despite the fact that other, better WRs were still on the board. A few picks later, Seattle, who had just spent tens of millions of dollars on a shiny new FA QB, selected Russell Wilson. Wilson just finished what might have been the best rookie season of any QB in the history of the NFL. (I can hear the Buddy supporters now: "He hasn't proved anything! Time will tell!.") In the 4th round, the Redskins, who a couple days earlier had traded a king's ransom for RG III, selected Kirk Cousins, to widespread laughter and derision by many here and around the league. No one is laughing now. (I know, "Cousins hasn't proved anything." Right, and Fitz certainly has.)
These are the facts and there just is no way to spin them in Buddy's favor. He should have been fired the second the final gun sounded at RWS against the Jets. Now we are stuck in a situation where there is no obvious franchise QB in the draft, and at least three QB needy teams are picking in front of us. There will be huge temptation to reach for a QB with the first round pick. That might be the right move, but the real problem is that Buddy apparently is the one who will be pulling the trigger. He has demonstrated sustained incompetence at evaluating and drafting QBs (among other positions) and he should not be within a country mile of the Bills' draft room this April.
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I like Fitz, but he lost may at the end when hes said they have to find a way to fix Fitzpatrick.
I agree. That statement proved that he is completely out of touch with what has been going on with the Bills for the past six months. I disregarded the entire article at that point.
How did SF know in 2011
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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He called Buddy and asked him who he was going to draft.