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Yeah me too. The guy stinks.
Agreed. Denver made a huge mistake bringing in Peyton Manning last year.
No one said Revis is not any good. Just that at this point in his career, he's not worth the Jets' apparent asking price. Manning, by the way, was a free agent, so the Broncos gave up zero draft picks to get him. And of course if you can't see the difference between a franchise QB and a defensive back (albeit a very good one) then I'm not sure what else to say to you.
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Was hoping I wouldn't see Buffalo in the list of teams interested.
Me too. This team's track record with established stars brought in via trade or free agency is even worse than its draft record, if that's possible. It would be a huge mistake and is absolutely the wrong way to build a playoff team.
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The point is that most people here seem to think that Nix has no idea what makes a good QB because of his previous decision on Fitz and TJax and not realizing how good Russell Wilson and Kapernick were when he had a chance to draft them (I don't know is he does or he doesn't, I think he does know talent though pretty well). I was just pointing out that the guy that DID know what makes a great QB and realized how good Russell Wilson was going to be when he had a chance to draft him misfired on his first two, and maybe three chances, and got it right on his fourth.
And in the thread, I said I understand that he should have been taking one anyway, even with Fitz, and agreed he should have; a huge mistake. But that is moot now because he IS taking one.
Which is why I said, "Now, it's easy to say, and VERY true, that Nix should have been drafting rookies anyway. But the fact is, he's drafting one this year. So that argument is old and moot at this point."
Right, and as you point out, even the best talent evaluators (of which Nix certainly is not one) swing and miss regularly with QB prospects, which is why you need to continually try to bring in new prospects until you have your francise guy,hell, even after you have found your franchise guy. What on earth makes you think Nix is going to hit it out of the park with his (presumably) one choice this year?
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When everyone's major fault they have with him is he wasn't smart enough to recognize that Russell Wilson* had what it takes to be a starting NFL QB and chose to keep Ryan Fitzpatrick for two full years after it was clear he wasn't the answer. And nor was Tavaris Jackson.
The genius who did recognize that Russell Wilson was so good and drafted him, signed Charlie Whitehurst right away to be his starter. That tanked. The next year he signed that same Tavaris Jackson to be his starter. That didn't work so well. Then he signed Matt Flynn. He was promptly beat out by a third round rookie. His fourth try was Russell Wilson and he struck gold.
Now, it's easy to say, and VERY true, that Nix should have been drafting rookies anyway. But the fact is, he's drafting one this year. So that argument is old and moot at this point. If the guy you think is the smart one for recognizing QB talent hit on his fourth choice, why is it so hard to think someone else could?
And that is also ignoring that Nix loved Newton when a lot of other guys were wary of him and would have drafted him if Andrew Luck didn't screw us. And he liked Russell Wilson a lot, too, he just didn't pull the trigger when he had the chance and should have in retrospect.
*The same could be said for not selecting Kapernick, in retrospect, but Jim Harbaugh had just taken the job and had no history of taking QBs we could look at. Ozzie Newsome struck out a few times before Flacco. The list goes on.
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This is more gymnastics and speculation (regarding who Buddy like but did not actually draft). It's true that Seattle whiffed on Whitehurst, but at least they were constantly trying hard to upgrade at QB, even though in Hasselback they had a better option than Fitz. And that same burning desire to upgrade at the most important position led to them drafting Wilson even though they had just signed Flynn to a big $$ FA contract. As a result, they appear poised to challenge for the Super Bowl over the next few years. The Bills, meanwhile, sat on their hands and did not even try to draft a young QB to groom, regardless of what they thought of Fitz.
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That was a lot of writing...
Buddy Nix Drafted Aaron Williams over Dalton and Kaepernick...TJ Graham over Russell Wilson...
Sorry, but that's all I need to know...
Well, he also drafted Marcel Dareus over AJ Green, Julio Jones, Aldon Smith, and JJ Watt, etc, but folks here seem to want to give him a pass on that one.
Christ, I guess it's the bash Buddy thread, complete with hand wringing, vitriole and insult spitting. He whiffed on a QB. Yep he did. But he built some good trenches, got a star RB and at least half a good backfield. The payroll is in great shape with plenty of room. He locked in Stevie. We are in a better place to take the next step thanks to the Buddy. It's time to move on from Buddy and it seems we are. I just don't get the dripping bile and Buddy hate I'm reading.
The reason we are not ready to move on is that this buffoon apparently is still the GM of the Buffalo Bills and is positioned to squander yet another draft. When he is shown the door, I promise to stop beating this particular drum.
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These early mocks are useless, don't put too much stock in them. The combine and the seemingly endless draft process will change the draft board a lot. I like the Bills to go after a QB they see is worth it and go hard after a WR in free agency then spend the second rounder on a LB. WR is a huge need and if there isn't one at pick 8 or they want a QB at pick 8 I hope they realize that they need to invest big dollars at WR esp if there is one player there worth it like Bowe from KC.
I personally like the idea of trading for Matt Flynn (A third rounder no more than that) and using the top two picks to address other needs. That's mostly because I like Flynn better than I like the QB's in the draft and think we could use the picks better elsewhere.
I tend to agree with everything you say here, except I think the Bills should be open to taking one of the two highly rated TEs (Ertz or Eifert) in the first round (if they can trade back) or in the second instead of a WR. Talk about a position that has been ignored for decades! Good WRs seem to be plentiful in this draft and can usually be found in the lower rounds.
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We had Brian Brohm, a former 2nd round pick on our roster year one, he failed, Levi Brown was drafted, failed, Thigpen had played for Gailey but he didnt work out and then he brought in VY, that didnt work and they broght Tjax in. Clearly none of these worked but I hardly call it "ignoring" the position
"Ignored" perhaps is not the right word. It is more accurate to say that Nix failed to invest any real assets in trying to improve the position. Brohm and VY were free agents who had been released. Brown was a 7th round pick and Tjax was obtained for a 7th rounder. That constitutes a failure to invest in the future of the franchise at a position of extreme importance and need. Other franchises that were less needy invested far more trying to improve at QB. Those franchises have reaped significant return on their investments.
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Except no one is sticking up for Buddy Nix. Everyone is saying he failed. I have said it over and over. There are/were simply logical reasons for both his picks and why he and the Bills failed.
Yes, and I suppose there were logical reasons why Jacksonville selected a punter one pick before Seattle took Russell Wilson, and KC selected some anonymous O-lineman a couple picks before that. But both of the GMs who made those logical (at the time) picks are now in the unemployment line. Our moron is preparing to tank the Bills' 2013 draft.
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No. Two years in a row the offense was decimated by injuries, woefully lacked talent at WR, got abused by having an abysmal defense, and at least this year got crappy QB play and crappy coaching for the entire season. But I don't think Russell Wilson or Colin Kapernick would have won more than 1-2 games, and I think guys like Andy Dalton and Kirk Cousins would have fared as bad as Fitz.
I never cease to be amused by the mental gymnastics that you and some others around here are willing to go through to excuse the inexcusable.
The facts are as follows: That in 2010 the Patriots, who already had arguably the best QB of all time on the roster, spent a 3d round pick on Ryan Mallet. Mallet might not turn out to be anything special, but then again, he might. I wouldn't bet against him. At any rate, he's a far better prospect than anyone on the Bills' current roster. That in 2011, with the second pick in the second round, the Bills picked yet another DB. Two picks later, the 49ers moved up 9 slots (giving up 3 picks to Denver) to select Colin Kaepernick, whose 10th NFL start will be in the Super Bowl. That in 2012, after Fitz had proven beyond all reasonable doubt that he was at best a career backup in the NFL, Buddy surrendered an extra draft pick to move up several slots in the 3d to pick TJ Graham, despite the fact that other, better WRs were still on the board. A few picks later, Seattle, who had just spent tens of millions of dollars on a shiny new FA QB, selected Russell Wilson. Wilson just finished what might have been the best rookie season of any QB in the history of the NFL. (I can hear the Buddy supporters now: "He hasn't proved anything! Time will tell!.") In the 4th round, the Redskins, who a couple days earlier had traded a king's ransom for RG III, selected Kirk Cousins, to widespread laughter and derision by many here and around the league. No one is laughing now. (I know, "Cousins hasn't proved anything." Right, and Fitz certainly has.)
These are the facts and there just is no way to spin them in Buddy's favor. He should have been fired the second the final gun sounded at RWS against the Jets. Now we are stuck in a situation where there is no obvious franchise QB in the draft, and at least three QB needy teams are picking in front of us. There will be huge temptation to reach for a QB with the first round pick. That might be the right move, but the real problem is that Buddy apparently is the one who will be pulling the trigger. He has demonstrated sustained incompetence at evaluating and drafting QBs (among other positions) and he should not be within a country mile of the Bills' draft room this April.
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I like Fitz, but he lost may at the end when hes said they have to find a way to fix Fitzpatrick.
I agree. That statement proved that he is completely out of touch with what has been going on with the Bills for the past six months. I disregarded the entire article at that point.
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LOL................what a weak counter-argument
No list needed, since it would not really prove anything. Many All-Americans succeed, some fail.
Funny, no one wants to debate with the "professional NFL scouts all put him in the top 15 picks" argument.
They must be blinded by "hype"..................lol
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I question how many actual scouts still have him in the top 15 after the revelations of the past week. In the NFL, everyone is insanely physically gifted. For the most part, what separates the ones who succeed from the ones who don't is their mental attributes. (Example: Ryan Leaf vs Peyton Manning.). At best, Te'o has some serious issues upstairs. Doesn't mean he's a bad person, but I would want him no where near my team.
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Never has a franchise so richly earned such skepticism. Keep up the good work.
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Wow. RT @Gil_Brandt: Julio Jones is best WR in @nfl. Better than Megatron. Better hands, stronger, same speed. #SFvsATL
Pretty Bold statement I'd say.
Another player the Bills could have drafted instead of an underperforming defensive tackle.
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So he was a victim of a hoax in that someone tricked him into believing he had a girlfriend who in fact did not exist? And someone believes this? How is it possible for someone to be your "girlfriend" if you've never met her? I'm sorry, I can't see any circumstances under which T'eo is anything other than the perpetrator of this hoax.
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or the way people will take any thread on any topic and somehow link it to some point from another topic they want to make
Hey, if the shoe fits . . .
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Didn't want us to draft him, and now I really hope we don't draft him.
Yep, he's appears to be a fraud and I don't want the Bills to draft him, even in the 7th round. A modern day Brian Bosworth.
The funniest part of this thread is all the Manti fans inventing alibis and excuses for him without any factual support whatsoever. Kind of like the way some contributors here twist themselves into pretzels trying to come up with an excuse for Buddy failing to draft a QB the past three years.
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Because outside of taking a big risk on not much of an upgrade in Dalton, or a HUGE risk in catching lightning in a bottle with Russel Wilson, the Bills havent been in a position to acquire a QB that would be any sort of upgrade to Fitz.
Yes, what a HUGE risk it would have been to use our 3d round pick on an unbelievably successful college QB from a major program. We would have missed the chance to pick TJ GRAHAM!! Imagine where would be without him.
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Not lazy. Spurrier was also regarded as an innovator in college who would bring his "fun and gun" game to the pros. It didn't happen.
The Petrino reference was comparing Petrion's bolting from Louisville to the Falcons and back to the college before the end of the season. Given Kelly's very public vacillation between staying in Oregon, leaving for the NFL, then staying in Oregon, then leaving for the NFL--I thought the possibility that Kelly could pull a Petrino was possible, and the comparison was therefore obvious.
I see no evidence so far that Kelly is "infinitely smarter" than Spurrier.
It is like saying, "Doug Flutie didn't make it in the NFL, therefore Russell Wilson will fail too." Spurrier and Kelly are completely different people, completely different coaches, and use completely different systems. And, oh yeah, Spurrier was hired by the Redskins 11 years ago. I think it's safe to say that the NFL has changed enormously in that time.
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Eagles def have the weapons, but they still need a QB who can run that offense. Wonder who the new Oregon coach will be. Nike will prob pay $$$$$$ to get a top coach there. Who is left? Lovie Smith??!!
It is unlikely that the Ducks will go outside the program for the next hire. Supposedly, Mark Helfrich (Kelly's right-hand man) is set to take over. There are some boosters, however, who are pushing for a splashy hire like Chris Peterson of Boise State. I don't think that will happen though. I think they will go for continuity.
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Not this one.
He will have zero impact in the NFL. Zero. See "Steve Spurrier".
Then, see "Bobby Petrino".
That is a lazy comparison. I can't say for sure that Kelly will succeed in the NFL, but to state that he will have "zero impact" because Petrino and Spurrier failed is utter nonsense. Kelly is infinitely smarter and harder working than either of those guys.
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The Patriots had the fastest time per play in the NFL this season at 24.9 seconds. Under Chip Kelly- Oregon was 20.9. That's fast. #Eagles
Going to be interesting to see how defenses try to keep up.
Contrary to popular belief, the Ducks did not run plays at blur speed at all times. They never huddle, but they have three different speeds (medium, fast and blur) at which they run plays and they change up the timing during the game. This prevents the defense from adjusting.
It will definitely be interesting to see how he adapts to the pro game. I don't think he will just install the U of O system in Philly and let it rip, but certainly he will be aggressive and innovative. I predict he will be a big success and I'm jealous of the Eagles. Not unhappy with Marrone, though.
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I saw that show when it was on a few years ago... I will get shredded for this, but its very tough to not root for the guy. I can't stand him cause he constantly beat the Bills but he effectively started out as a complete scrub and is now considered one of the best ever. I happened to sit next to his family at the first or 2nd Bills game that he played in 2000 or 2001. They were very normal people and were just rooting for their son. Yes, he comes off as arrogant now, yes he's the son of satan because he dominates, but seriously, how can anyone not respect what he's done. One of the best ever, if not the best ever, from very humble beginnings. Dude looked like he should have been playing Everquest in a Michigan dorm room all day rather than working out for an NFL team's draft board back in the day...
Totally agree. He is the best ever to play the position. How can you not respect him?
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Sounds to me like another Rob Johnson. Got a big contract on the strength of one great game.
Problem with Rob Johnson was not his contract, but rather the fact that we gave up a 1st round pick for him, and of course the fact that he sucked. I doubt Seattle will get more than a 4th for Flynn. Pretty sure they signed him as UFA.
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Thanks for posting. Great article and I think relevant to many of the posts here of late re drafting a QB. Would like to see the ESPN show.
Darrelle Revis traded to Bucs
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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True, but you're still talking about a guy who's pushing 30, just came off ACL surgery and has a history of never being happy with the contract he just signed. No, thanks.