
mannc
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It depends who the substitute QB is. If Allen goes down and Mitch Trubisky plays the whole season, it’s a different answer than plugging in a lower level NFL starter, like say Geno Smith or Brock Purdy. With those guys, 11 wins is possible. The Bills’ o-line is top 5, maybe top 2 or 3, in the NFL, and that raises the floor considerably…
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7 hours ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said:
who cares.
As far as off season thread topics go, this one is in the top 10%…
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4 hours ago, boyst said:
I supremely believe Kelce is overrated. A system TE benefiting from Willford Brimley and Brittany Mahomes husband.
I think his positives are his ability to sit down in open space and find green spaces. He also has good hands.
I don't think he is efficient for running routes or being much more than a check down guy. He has been completely taken out of games far too often.
They played the position and were at least able to chop block and chip.
Kelce gets butthurt if he has to touch anyone.
That’s just not true
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1 hour ago, boyst said:
no. they did . they blocked. pretty good for a tight end too.
LOL, they were basketball players
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2 hours ago, boyst said:
I wasn't t disagreeing with you.
There are maybe 3 elite tight ends in the league that are difference makers. Thats the problem. The very good are not as good as they get credit for because the competition and equivalency is so watered down
George kitttle, for example, is an elite TE but probably not even top 10 in the last 30 years. Same with Kelce. I don't know if one right end playing right now beats: Antonio Gates, Tony Gonzalez, Gronk, Shannon Sharpe, Vernon Davis and Greg Olsen are just off the top of my head.
These guys blocked, ran routes, and didn't live in a super big passing league.
Wait, you’re not suggesting that Antonio Gates or Tony Gonzalez (or Vernon Davis, for that matter) ever blocked anyone, are you?
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6 hours ago, stuvian said:
I attribute some of his failure to meet expectations to mediocre QB play
Know what’s really funny about Kyle Pitts? The players who the Falcons could have taken instead of him…to name a few, Jamar Chase, Penei Sewell, Pat Surtain, Micah Parsons…a truly abysmal draft pick, and a perfect example of why the Falcons are an utterly irrelevant NFL franchise.
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5 hours ago, Augie said:
The hype was super high, and he looked like a freak to me coming out. I live right here in Atlanta, so since he doesn’t play for UGA I don’t hear much about him.
I’m like a bird watcher when I have a rare Falcons gear sighting.
Can confirm. A Falcons’ regular season game gets about 50% as much attention there as the Univ. of Georgia spring scrimmage (no lie).
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39 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:
Was that 5th round receiver also not the unquestioned #1 receiver of a team helmed by the MVP who went to the AFC championship and awarded a lucrative new deal? College is college, and the pros are the pros. There's no objective data to suggest MHJ didn't have an exceptional rookie year. You're complaining because it wasn't as exceptional as somebody else. Welcome to NFL football.
By my count, at least 4 rookie receivers clearly had better rookie seasons than the greatest WR prospect of modern times…hell, if he hadn’t gotten hurt, Keon Coleman would have been breathing down his neck. 🤣🤣🤣
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3 hours ago, SoCal Deek said:
This seems like a talking point. In what way is it a rugby play? And if it is….isnt a simple pitch play one also? OJ made a career out of that one.
In rugby, when the ball is near the goal line, the team in possession often forms a scrum and simply tries to push the ball over the line by shoving the other team backwards, just like the tush push. As you may recall, until fairly recently, it was a penalty for another offensive player to "aid the runner" by pushing him forward. No idea why or when that ancient rule was changed. And no, a simple pitch play isn't really a rugby play (perhaps more of a Rugby League play), although it certainly happens in Rugby Union, too.
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1 hour ago, BullBuchanan said:
Harrison was the Card’s unquestioned WR1, the 4th overall pick in the draft, and the alleged best WR prospect of the past decade…amazing that his numbers were roughly equal to the Bills’ 5th round slot receiver…
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21 hours ago, JohnNord said:
What was his issue last season? I didn’t get the impression is was strength relatedCorrect. He’s not very quick or explosive…massively overrated—and overdrafted—because of his college helmet and his father…
16 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:at least he's smart enough to not get caught...
So far…
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It’s a rugby play that has no place in football. Get rid of it.
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11 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:
Next up: “Dak Prescott is the most amazing QB and leader I’ve ever played with…”
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54 minutes ago, Billsfed1 said:
Been listening to a few pods on the schedule and one of the recurring points I’ve heard is “wish the bye week was a little bit later”.
The Eagles had their bye week last year in week 5 and won the Super Bowl. They also (like the Bills) had to play 3 games prior to the Super Bowl and they even won under those conditions.
I’m not entirely convinced it matters. The Lions had a bye by winning the NFC last year and they were out in the Divisional round so I think while it may be nice to have it mid-season or perhaps a touch later…not completely necessary in my book.
What do you think?
Makes very little difference. Some teams that get late byes are already all but eliminated, so the bye does them no good at all.
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5 minutes ago, Einstein said:
Wow the Jets are gonna be 1-3 or 0-4.
No reason they can’t beat the Steelers and Dolphins. That’s actually a pretty easy opening stretch.
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12 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:
Got one:
Bills at Steelers 11/30 4:25 PM
I expect the wheels will have come off the Steelers by then…
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6 minutes ago, Gregg said:
If this is true, then the Giants could be looking at an 0-4 start. Again, IF TRUE.
Update: Giants face draining first month
Art Stapleton of NorthJersey.com and USA TODAY reports that the Giants will face an overwhelming first month of the season with the following games:
Week 1 at Washington Commanders
Week 2 at Dallas Cowboys
Week 3 vs. Kansas City Chiefs (primetime)
Week 4 vs. Los Angeles Chargers
The Giants are in a very tough division…their schedule was never going to be easy.
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1 hour ago, ProcessTruster said:
An example of a team that is screwing it up is Cleveland; they are trying to win games. The Saints are playing it beautifully now that Carr is retiring. Tank and grab Archie Manning's grandson... what a story that will be.
How can you say Cleveland is screwing up? They finished with the second worst record in the league, then fleeced the Jags out of next years first round pick. They are well-positioned to grab a QB in next year’s draft. And it’s not at all clear to me that they are trying to win games in 2025.
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2 hours ago, Virgil said:
To start, I am not banging the table saying either are great quarterbacks, but they are clearly capable of starting in the NFL. They may not be great, by any means, but they are way better than who the Saints and Steelers plan on putting on the field.
Granted, the Giants just signed Winston, but then signed Russel (named the starter) and drafted Dart. The Saints took a guy in the second round, but he is far from a sure bet of being NFL ready, let alone week 1 ready.
Am I missing something here. How are the Saints and Steelers not all over these trades? I can’t imagine the asking price is big. If in a fan of either team, dreading this upcoming season as is. If in a HC of either team, am I not also fighting for me job? Granted Tomlin appears to be untouchable at times, but for how long?
Just thoughts.
Winston delivers street free agent-level quarterbacking at this point in his career. Cousins is older and banged up and should not be starting anywhere. Ousins is a better option than Winston, though.
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3 hours ago, Billsfed1 said:
I don’t think his size matters really. If he’s staying on the lighter side perhaps that means he’s emphasizing the receiving portion of his game.
The point is, he’s often hurt. Being undersized is likely one reason for that. He’s not built like an NFL TE.
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1 hour ago, sven233 said:
There are rumors going around that it will be Bills vs Bengals on Sunday Night Week 1. THey said it on the Buffalo Plus podcast yesterday and I have seen it a couple other places too.
If true, man......probably no tougher matchup for our overhauled defense to have to work the kinks out against right out of the gate.
Not sure if this is what Allen will be part of announcing or if it will be something else, but it is something that's out there.
It would be great. Bengals always start slow…plus they have a new coordinator, crappy o-line, lotta new players on defense. Best time to play them.
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58 minutes ago, Aesop said:
I believe in Super Bowl every year. Especially since 17 has been at QB.
Have to. Teams with HOF quarterbacks in their prime do not have rebuilding years. It’s just not acceptable.
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The problem is that the AFC is just so loaded…the four best QBs in the league (all future HOFers) and a few HOF coaches. Home field really is huge and luck plays a big part. Things have to break just right. One thing in the Bills’ favor is that the AFCE is weak, which should make it feasible to get the top seed. Baltimore has a tougher road…KC probably does too.
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11 hours ago, The Jokeman said:
Easily Fitz.
This is the only answer…
Who is the worst franchise QB in the NFL?
in The Stadium Wall
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