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8 hours ago, Dr. Who said:
Complete lack of judgment in those who want to add Brown to the mix in order to get the WR they covet. Who is going to plausibly replace him in the lineup? The Bills invested the time to develop him, and now they should what, put La'el Collins in there to replace him? Van Demark did not look good on the right side in the snaps he took at RT.
I've yet to hear an intelligent reply to these concerns from the enthusiasts for pay any price to get a top 3 WR.
Spencer Brown is going nowhere. Why would the Bills want to create a gaping hole at one of the most important and difficult positions to fill? They aren’t nearly that foolish.
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58 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:
Barry Bonds wants a word with you!
And the Bosa brothers
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Harrison Jr: NY Giants
Odunze: Chicago Bears
McConkey: KC Chiefs
Thomas, Jr. Jaguars
Worthy Buffalo Bills
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6 minutes ago, H2o said:
The defense got lucky one time, on the Hardman fumble which was at the goal line. If they score there, it would have iced the game. It was a mistske by Hardman and the ball actuallybounced in our favor for once. We forced a single punt. We couldn't stop them on their last possession as they simply ran out the clock. The defense sucked that game and generally couldn't stop a nose bleed. The only reason it was close is because we had a 14 minute edge in time of possession. Everything we did was methodical. Diggs whiffs on a bomb, defender pushes Dawkins into Josh's legs, and Bass misses a kick. Story of the Bills. But the defense didn't save us by any means.
Almost 8 yards per play vs just over 4 yards per play. Not really very close.
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This is why I think there will be at least six WRs drafted tomorrow …
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15 minutes ago, Virgil said:
Today on WGR, they were talking about someone they trust from the Athletic saying the Bills are trying to trade up into the top 10 for Rome Odunze
Bears don’t have a second this year, so I suppose they could be tempted by 28 and 60 plus the Vikings’ second next year…
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27 minutes ago, longtimebillsfan said:
I doubt we will be moving high enough to draft one of tge top 3 wrs.
Thank you. No one in the top 10 is interested in moving to 28, and the Bills’ first next year is a devalued asset because the assumption is that it too will be a late pick. A move up to the mid-teens is possible, but that’s about it. Although I do think it’s possible that Odunze slides to that part of the draft…
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5 minutes ago, DCOrange said:
I’m absolutely dreading watching them draft Maye
I'm not...
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27 minutes ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said:
I can’t wait to watch McCarthy fall out of the first round. He’s this year’s Will Levis in terms of receiving so much first round hype post bowl season and leading up to the draft.
I can't wait to watch the Patriots draft him third overall...
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2 minutes ago, Brandon said:
I wouldn't be surprised if Worthy goes as early as to the Dolphins at 21. Even if he goes in the 2nd, the Bills would have to blow their draft pick load to get Odunze and wouldn't have much left in this draft or the next to use to acquire another 2nd.
The Dolphins have so many other dire needs, they would be insane to take a WR at 21...
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Just now, JaCrispy said:
Don’t like it…
Odunze is GOOD at everything but he’s NOT ELITE at anything…
I think it would terrible cake to trade up for him…Rather take a chance on Thomas, who has elite speed…👍
I love Odunze, and he seems Billsy (in a good way) but I don’t think he goes in the top 10 like most here assume. I could see the Bills trying to get him if he makes it to 12….
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7 hours ago, SoTier said:
Gabe Davis was a fourth round draft pick so he was taken on Day 3. He probably outplayed his draft position somewhat, and he was probably a bargain at $4-5 million (which is JAG money for a WR) but he surely wasn't worth the $13+ million a year that he got from Jacksonville; he simply isn't fast enough or consistent enough. The Bills already have a couple of guys on their roster capable of replacing a significant amount of Davis' production: Khalil Shakir and Curtis Samuel.
The Bills do need to add two outside WRs (WR1 and WR2) before opening day. Most likely, the WR1 will come from round 1 or 2 of the draft. The Bills may take another WR on Day 3 or they may sign a veteran after June 1. They might do both.
The Bills have the second best QB in the NFL playing behind a solid OL with a dynamic young starting RB who is a threat in both the running and passing games. Shakir and Samuel are both competent WRs. They have a pair of young TEs who give them the ability to use 2 TE sets to effectively run or pass the ball. The sky is not falling on the Bills offense.
But how we gonna compete without Jordan Phillips and Latavius Murray???? I’m telling you, we’re doooomed!
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4 hours ago, BullBuchanan said:
I know you didn't ask me, but I sure didn't. I think I have posts around here saying they had no chance to win a Super Bowl somewhere around the Bengals or Broncos game and I got lambasted for it. Then everyone acted surprised when we lost to KC, but I expected it the whole season. I saw how we won and how we lost and I knew it wouldn't be good enough in January and February and it wasn't.
Also, it seems like you don't know how betting odds work. Being a "favorite" by a bookmaker has nothing to do with how likely you are to win. It has to do with compensating against the expected action so that the bookmaker doesn't end up on the losing side of an outcome. All it means is that Vegas is expecting action on the Bills.Good for you
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13 minutes ago, 90sBills said:
You’re comparing the Bills situation with teams that have won it all. We’re not those teams. If the last few years should’ve taught us anything it’s that Allen alone isn’t enough. As long as we have him this team would automatically compete for a title is fallacy. He needs a complete team with playmakers throughout the roster to have a chance.
Do you think the Bills “didn’t have a chance” this past year? For most of the season they had the second or third best odds to win the Super Bowl…
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7 minutes ago, Buffalo Boy said:
Uhh, the quote of yours that Josh single-handedly means we can be “never in rebuilding mode…never.”
It is incorrect.
It's absolutely correct. The Bills are not in rebuilding mode now and they won't be until Josh Allen is gone or substantially diminished. NE was never "rebuilding" with Brady, KC has never rebuilt with Mahomes, GB never "rebuilt" with Rodgers, etc...
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Just now, BullBuchanan said:
Yes, no cap. You might be one of the only people that don't get this. Those are important roles being played on the team that you can't just fill with day 3 picks or veteran minim FA deals. This isn't Madden.
Those kind of guys are replaced by NFL teams every year with no drop off in performance. That’s why they are called JAGS…🤣
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5 hours ago, BullBuchanan said:
That's a gross minimization of the scenario at hand. We lost our starting center, replacing him with a player who has minimal experience at the position and creating a gap at left guard that we're assuming will be handled adequately. We lost our top 2 receivers (82% snap count), our starting safeties, our #3 outside cornerback (43% snap count), our #3 and #4 DT (36% snap count), our #2 RB (30% snap count).
Our current two safeties are not NFL level starting players. Edwards is a borderline roster talent. We have a massive dropoff at CB #3.
I don't really care who they are adding in the draft for the purposes of my argument. They are going to be rookies, and late pick rookies at that. They will take time to acclimate.
Your last comment about never being in a rebuild just because we have Allen is maybe the most lolable part of this. If the Brady led Pats had to rebuild on several occassions while he was stacking Lombardis. Allen and his zero super bowl appearances is hardly immune.So you really think we'll miss Gabe Davis, Dane Jackson and Tim Settle???? You must be the only one on this board who thinks so. Dooooomed! Mitch Morse was a good center but he was getting old, and with most teams not using a nose tackle, center is probably the most de-valued position there is, maybe even more than running back. There no reason Connor McGovern can't be a perfectly fine replacement.
I'm not sure who the #2 RB is that you're referring to...oh wait, Latavius Murray????? How will we ever survive without him???? 😃
Please tell me you're not "concerned" about safety...Hyde and Poyer's play fell off considerably last year and there are still a number of NFL starting safeties from last year available as free agents. And of course at least two of our 10 draft picks are sure to be safeties...
These types of departures are typical of every NFL team every year...The Chiefs this year had a grand total of three starters left from the 2020 Super Bowl championship team. Your level of "sky is falling" hysteria about losing a bunch of JAGs is absolutely hilarious.
And to answer your last absurd comment, the Patriots never had a "re-build" in the Brady era. They won the AFCE 18 out of 20 years and made the playoffs every year except when Brady tore his ACL. They were Super Bowl contenders every year, while turning over their roster at almost the same rate as the Chiefs...
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27 minutes ago, Buffalo Boy said:
The sad thing about this statement is how many on this thread have basically said the same thing.
Have any of you “Josh is the second coming “ types actually watched this team the last few years. We can’t win games solely based on Josh being Josh. We actually lose games.
Josh NEEDS a team that has other stars on it if we are going to win it all….. difference makers. We have Cooke and Kincaid. They are both very good, possibly great if things break right, but they are not enough.Who are the difference makers on D? Douglas is my only one.
Josh has single handedly made a bunch of OCs and a certain HC look better than they are.
Snap out of it folks. We need difference makers, on the field and in the coaching ranks. We don’t have them. Josh alone does not Make everything ok.I don’t think you read anything I wrote. Where did I say the Bills don’t need difference makers? I said they are not rebuilding and will contend for a championship, just like they have the last four years.
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18 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:
Agreed. Maybe they still will later on. If I were GM, I'd try to see if I could eat all the bad deals this year including Knox's contract and if Milano can come back to form, I'd look at trading him in season for draft capital to next year - even though he's my favorite player. I'd look to see how we could get younger and cheaper so that by 2026 we have a team that's really humming and has a shot at being the best in the league.
We lost one key player, a guy who is 31 and whose production fell off a cliff the last 10 games of the season. Every NFL team loses multiple starters every year, to trades, free agency or retirement. FFS, you don’t even know who they’re going to add in the draft, and free agency isn’t over!
A team with prime Josh Allen is never in rebuilding mode…never. I fully expect the Bills to be better in 2024 than they were last year.
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1 hour ago, BullBuchanan said:
Again, I'm realistic. They are going into the draft with 5 massive holes, and I don't see a realistic scenario where they get more than 3 starting caliber players. There's no chance that they aren't starting someone who doesn't belong as a starter on even a terrible team, let alone one that says they hope to win. They'll never admit to it being a rebuild year, but it absolutely is.
Sure, a team with Josh Allen in his prime, a coach going into his eighth year with the team, and a veteran roster is "rebuilding"...yeah, OK
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17 hours ago, BigAl2526 said:
The Bills are more likely to trade down from 28 and take Legette, than to get him at 60. I really don't expect them to trade up from 60 to do it.
They’ll only drop back into the second if there are a few guys they’d be more or less equally happy with. If Beane really likes Leggette, he’ll take him at 28…he won’t risk losing him to KC or some other team. That’s not the way he operates.
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If we’re talking about day 3 RBs, I have to mention Bucky Irving (U of Oregon), even though he’s probably not a fit for the Bills. Undersized, but extremely shifty and quick; always makes the first tackler miss. Definitely not a pile-mover, but very productive at Oregon (almost 1700 yards from scrimmage in 2023) and maybe the best pass-catching back in the draft. Reminds me of a slightly faster Devin Singletary…
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On 4/16/2024 at 10:49 AM, YattaOkasan said:
Why limit the convo to day 3? Considering we have a huge need at RB (only 2 on the team right now) we will be drafting one. I dont think the value is there in the first two rounds but would definitely be happy to have a reliable short yardage and pass pro RB in the 4th.
Do you think all our other needs are greater than RB that we shouldnt consider RB in the 4th?
I hate to break the news to you, but the fourth round takes place on day 3 of the NFL draft.
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2 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:
Chris Simms is the only I saw. NBC just wants attention
He’s not the only one. I’ve seen at least two others rank Thomas ahead of Adunze and one guy rank him ahead of MHJ.
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NFL draft rumors 2024
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Jets would be very foolish not to go OT with that first pick…no way their tackles hold up for 17 games, much less beyond 2024.
And the Alabama CBs are hugely overrated. Would not be surprised if they both fall out of round 1.